Meh, if there are sources for Eddie Vedder shows then there will be for these Pearl Jam shows. Hell i think there is an audience recording for every 08 show.
Meh, if there are sources for Eddie Vedder shows then there will be for these Pearl Jam shows. Hell i think there is an audience recording for every 08 show.
I've wanted to learn about this for a while now, but do you know how I would go about making a matrix of an AUD and SBD? The AUDs are just too low quality, but the SBDs from the last few tours have been void of crowd energy, and I need more.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Meh, if there are sources for Eddie Vedder shows then there will be for these Pearl Jam shows. Hell i think there is an audience recording for every 08 show.
I understand that. i was asking about official bootlegs. Just forgot to put the word official. Sorry.
Meh, if there are sources for Eddie Vedder shows then there will be for these Pearl Jam shows. Hell i think there is an audience recording for every 08 show.
Some of the audience recordings from the 08 tour are better then the "offical" ones. I hope to god pj doesn't use the same company again as last year
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Meh, if there are sources for Eddie Vedder shows then there will be for these Pearl Jam shows. Hell i think there is an audience recording for every 08 show.
I've wanted to learn about this for a while now, but do you know how I would go about making a matrix of an AUD and SBD? The AUDs are just too low quality, but the SBDs from the last few tours have been void of crowd energy, and I need more.
I dont know sorry
Yeah Mets, there was far too much bass on these 08 ones for 1 thing.
The 2000 boots were magnificent, but those days are long gone. The albums AND the boots have gotten progressively worse-sounding since then, and I don't have much faith that the band really cares enough to change that.
i'm prayingggggg for official boots! a HUGE part of the glory is being able to go back and listen to the shows you went to a billion times and thinking back on how great it was! Though the '08 ones were still fine, whatever they used to record '06 was definitely the best!
2006: Hartford
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
The 2000 boots were magnificent, but those days are long gone. The albums AND the boots have gotten progressively worse-sounding since then, and I don't have much faith that the band really cares enough to change that.
agreed
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
The 2000 boots were magnificent, but those days are long gone. The albums AND the boots have gotten progressively worse-sounding since then, and I don't have much faith that the band really cares enough to change that.
wow .. couldn't disagree more. i think the 00 boots were the most quiet and not-so-great sounding of all the official year boots. and pearl jam has always been phenomenal. as far as i am concerned they have done no under-par or less then excellent works. and no, i'm not just being a tuck-up diehard.
2006: Hartford
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
The bass was to high. Some songs mike would be high then low. Couldn't hear the crowd at all. The 00 boots are the only "offical" ones I like.
Hellll yea!
lol
hail hail to bootlegs
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
wow .. couldn't disagree more. i think the 00 boots were the most quiet and not-so-great sounding of all the official year boots.
That would make sense if you were talking about the European boots. The US boots are plenty loud (you would have to be deaf to think they're too quiet). And the mixing is perfect...everything is blended perfectly...guitars sound awesome...drums sound awesome...crowd at just the right volume. The 2008 boots are horrible in comparison...awful mixing...guitars sound weak...drums sound like cardboard...too much bass...too loud. So I really don't know what you're talking about.
wow .. couldn't disagree more. i think the 00 boots were the most quiet and not-so-great sounding of all the official year boots.
That would make sense if you were talking about the European boots. The US boots are plenty loud (you would have to be deaf to think they're too quiet). And the mixing is perfect...everything is blended perfectly...guitars sound awesome...drums sound awesome...crowd at just the right volume. The 2008 boots are horrible in comparison...awful mixing...guitars sound weak...drums sound like cardboard...too much bass...too loud. So I really don't know what you're talking about.
I'm 100% with you, it baffles me how they could get it so right in 2000 and then see them progressively slide downhill in quality since then. 2003 and 2006 were not all that bad (though I think 2005 was pretty mediocre) but 2008 were flat-out terrible. I can't believe someone actually got paid to make them sound like that (or that they listened to it and thought "yeah, that's good enough!"). Poor mixing and worse mastering, it really presents the band in a bad light when I'm sure they'd sound so much better if mixed like the 2000 shows.
I'm really hopeful of an improvement in 2009 but have prepared myself for disappointment all the same...
I'm 100% with you, it baffles me how they could get it so right in 2000 and then see them progressively slide downhill in quality since then. 2003 and 2006 were not all that bad (though I think 2005 was pretty mediocre) but 2008 were flat-out terrible. I can't believe someone actually got paid to make them sound like that (or that they listened to it and thought "yeah, that's good enough!"). Poor mixing and worse mastering, it really presents the band in a bad light when I'm sure they'd sound so much better if mixed like the 2000 shows.
2003 are mixed very well but they have a "baked", over-compressed sound to them that I don't like very much. 2006 sounds a little bit better but the mixing isn't as good, especially for the first few shows where you can barely hear Mike, and the guitars have lost their balls somehow. 2008 not only sounds bad, but the mixing is pretty strange. For some of the shows, Mike has been brought almost to the center, and Stone is halfway to the right. The hard left/right panning they've been using since 1992 has gone out the window. There's one song in particular (can't remember which show) where you can hear Mike pan from hard left to the center in the middle of a solo. Sounds like a mistake to me...I've NEVER heard anything like that on a Pearl Jam boot. Remember that Brett didn't do the 2008 boots so I hope they bring him back at least.
Personally I love all the Boots to date, they are all great and cannot be bothered with the 2000's bass sounds a little crunchier than the 2008 boots, and the 2003's audience is a little too much compared to the fan made boot from 1993....boring....just enjoy them people.
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EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Some of the audience recordings from the 08 tour are better then the "offical" ones. I hope to god pj doesn't use the same company again as last year
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I dont know sorry
Yeah Mets, there was far too much bass on these 08 ones for 1 thing.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Hellll yea!
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I still want official bootlegs!!!
Who is with me?
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
wow .. couldn't disagree more. i think the 00 boots were the most quiet and not-so-great sounding of all the official year boots. and pearl jam has always been phenomenal. as far as i am concerned they have done no under-par or less then excellent works. and no, i'm not just being a tuck-up diehard.
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
agreed.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
Yes!
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
but how 'bout dvd's?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
That would make sense if you were talking about the European boots. The US boots are plenty loud (you would have to be deaf to think they're too quiet). And the mixing is perfect...everything is blended perfectly...guitars sound awesome...drums sound awesome...crowd at just the right volume. The 2008 boots are horrible in comparison...awful mixing...guitars sound weak...drums sound like cardboard...too much bass...too loud. So I really don't know what you're talking about.
Seattle Key Arena 9-21-2009
Seattle Key Arena 9-22-2009
I'm 100% with you, it baffles me how they could get it so right in 2000 and then see them progressively slide downhill in quality since then. 2003 and 2006 were not all that bad (though I think 2005 was pretty mediocre) but 2008 were flat-out terrible. I can't believe someone actually got paid to make them sound like that (or that they listened to it and thought "yeah, that's good enough!"). Poor mixing and worse mastering, it really presents the band in a bad light when I'm sure they'd sound so much better if mixed like the 2000 shows.
I'm really hopeful of an improvement in 2009 but have prepared myself for disappointment all the same...
2003 are mixed very well but they have a "baked", over-compressed sound to them that I don't like very much. 2006 sounds a little bit better but the mixing isn't as good, especially for the first few shows where you can barely hear Mike, and the guitars have lost their balls somehow. 2008 not only sounds bad, but the mixing is pretty strange. For some of the shows, Mike has been brought almost to the center, and Stone is halfway to the right. The hard left/right panning they've been using since 1992 has gone out the window. There's one song in particular (can't remember which show) where you can hear Mike pan from hard left to the center in the middle of a solo. Sounds like a mistake to me...I've NEVER heard anything like that on a Pearl Jam boot. Remember that Brett didn't do the 2008 boots so I hope they bring him back at least.
In the meantime, big bump for 2009 boots.
MTL 9/15/05
HRTFD 5/13/06
BOS 5/24/06, 5/25/06
VEGAS 7/6/06
CHI 8/5/07
NJ 6/19/08
NYC 6/25/08
HRTFD 6/27/08
MANSFLD 6/28/08, 6/30/08
E.V. BOS 8/1/08
CHI 8/23/09, 8/24/09
PHILLY 10/30/09, 10/31/09
BOS 5/17/10
CHI 7/19/13
WOOSTA 10/15/13, 10/16/13
HRTFD 10/25/13
BOS 8/5/16, 8/7/16
BOS 9/2/18, 9/4/18