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AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
edited July 2009 in A Moving Train
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Killed in action the week before, the body of Staff Sergeant John C. Beale was returned to Falcon Field in Peachtree City, Georgia, just south of Atlanta, on June 11, 2009. The Henry County Police Department escorted the procession to the funeral home in McDonough, Georgia. A simple notice in local papers indicated the road route to be taken and the approximate time. People lined the route for miles to pay tribute to one of our fallen.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    So what does this soldier's death have to do with Michael Jackson?
    RIP

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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    :cry::cry:
    Thanks for posting that. I dont think Iv'e ever seen a percession that long. Speechless
  • vduboisevduboise Posts: 1,937
    That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen in a long time. How communities and towns came out to honor someone that fought and died representing this country.


    Thanks for sharing.

    This has to do with MJ- in that the newspapers were all about him, day in and out, and how he was this great man- nevermind about someone who truly gave their lives for this country.

    I'm not saying that MJ was not a great musician- but it did not warrant the coverage that it got- while a fallen soldier gets buried in the back of the pages or noted in passing.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    vduboise wrote:
    That was one of the most inspiring things I have seen in a long time. How communities and towns came out to honor someone that fought and died representing this country.


    Thanks for sharing.

    This has to do with MJ- in that the newspapers were all about him, day in and out, and how he was this great man- nevermind about someone who truly gave their lives for this country.

    I'm not saying that MJ was not a great musician- but it did not warrant the coverage that it got- while a fallen soldier gets buried in the back of the pages or noted in passing.

    I'm a former soldier in our military and I want to know did you really think the US media was going to play down his death. They're in the business to make money and if people are watching the MJ spectacle they're going to make more money.

    Actually I didn't watch any of it except the clip when his daughter spoke. As far as I'm concerned MJ's dead, it's sad and it's time now to care for his children. Done.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    To put things in it's proper perspective...
    How many of you heard of Michael Jackson (a.k.a 'The King of Pop')?
    How many of you heard of Staff Sgt. John C. Beale (prior to this news story)?
    ...
    I'm just saying that there is a reason for this Michael Jackson crap. Don't blame the media for the public's warped hunger for bullshit.
    Like, i heard douchebags like Sean Hannity going off on the Jackson coverage and comparing it to the war dead. When his own station covered the entire Staple Center event, commercial free... and his show was followed by Greta Van Sustren's entire hour devoted to Jackson. If people like Hannity are that concerned.. they why doesn't he devote his entire show to provide us with information about the war veterans, the casualties and their families and what is going on in their lives... the problems they are facing every fucking day?
    Why doesn't he do that?
    RATINGS.
    ...
    Also, anyone that is concerned about Veteran's Affairs can DO something... and I'm not talking about sending a bag of Gummie Bears to the Green Zone... give to your local U.S.O. Better yet, voluenteer your time to the U.S.O. and and actually make a difference.
    http://www.uso.org
    ...
    Finally...
    A year from today... who here will remember who Michael Jackson was?
    Who here will remember Staff Sgt. John C. Beale?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited July 2009
    I must be missing something here. How does fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan constitute fighting for your country?

    They're not fighting for their country, they're fighting for the benefit of a small minority of money Nazis in Texas and Washington.

    And if Americans really cared so much about their veterans then how is it that so many of them end up either dead from suicide, or homeless?
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I must be missing something here. How does fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan constitute fighting for your country?

    They're not fighting for their country, they're fighting for the benefit of a small minority of money Nazis in Texas and Washington.
    ...
    I think is is more like the soldiers don't have a say in the matter. Those suit wearing shitheads in Washington made the shit sandwich the soldiers are made to eat. And i think that anyone (civilian pieces of shit) that cheered on this whole clusterfuck needs to take a bite out of that shit sandwich, too.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I must be missing something here. How does fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan constitute fighting for your country?

    They're not fighting for their country, they're fighting for the benefit of a small minority of money Nazis in Texas and Washington.

    And if Americans really cared so much about their veterans then how is it that so many of them end up either dead from suicide, or homeless?

    I agree with you on Iraq, but you are way off on Afghanistan.
  • even flow - question markeven flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    Not to get into a pissing match about countries. But every soldier who comes home in a body bag should have the respect of every citizen in the country whether you believe in what they are fighting for or not. If war came knocking on our countries door, they would be the first to defend it. That is what they signed up for and that is the respect they deserve.

    I get a warm feeling when I drive home after work on the highway and the procession is coming in the other direction heading towards the coroners and you drive under the overpasses with all the people atop of them.



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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    Not to get into a pissing match about countries. But every soldier who comes home in a body bag should have the respect of every citizen in the country whether you believe in what they are fighting for or not. If war came knocking on our countries door, they would be the first to defend it. That is what they signed up for and that is the respect they deserve.


    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Commy wrote:
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    Not to get into a pissing match about countries. But every soldier who comes home in a body bag should have the respect of every citizen in the country whether you believe in what they are fighting for or not. If war came knocking on our countries door, they would be the first to defend it. That is what they signed up for and that is the respect they deserve.


    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.

    You're an ass...
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    Not to get into a pissing match about countries. But every soldier who comes home in a body bag should have the respect of every citizen in the country whether you believe in what they are fighting for or not. If war came knocking on our countries door, they would be the first to defend it. That is what they signed up for and that is the respect they deserve.


    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.

    You're an ass...
    I'm right.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Commy wrote:


    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.


    That is probably the most offensive thing I've read on these forums.
  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    Commy wrote:
    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.[/quote]

    I'm right.[/quote]

    Unfortunately, there are people in our society who have families and/or relatives to support and have no choice but to either enlist in the service or be a criminal. There are also people who believe that serving their country is an honorable thing to do, whether they agree with the circumstances or not. You shouldn't generalize. All of us were raised in different circumstances and are living different lives. Disagreeing with your point of view doesn't make them lesser human beings. Surely you aren't that cold... :?
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    weenie wrote:
    Commy wrote:

    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.



    Unfortunately, there are people in our society who have families and/or relatives to support and have no choice but to either enlist in the service or be a criminal. There are also people who believe that serving their country is an honorable thing to do, whether they agree with the circumstances or not. You shouldn't generalize. All of us were raised in different circumstances and are living different lives. Disagreeing with your point of view doesn't make them lesser human beings. Surely you aren't that cold... :?
    i don't respect a human being who would take a life for a goddamn paycheck. or for empire. or for country. or whatever the idealism behind the action. Bottom line, wars benefit a tiny wealthy minority, and the rest of us either fight or die or pay for it.

    i can see you point though. many soldiers are poor/uneducated, its a way out. but the day people stop volunteering to kill for their country might be around the day wars cease being fought.
  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    Commy wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    Commy wrote:

    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.



    Unfortunately, there are people in our society who have families and/or relatives to support and have no choice but to either enlist in the service or be a criminal. There are also people who believe that serving their country is an honorable thing to do, whether they agree with the circumstances or not. You shouldn't generalize. All of us were raised in different circumstances and are living different lives. Disagreeing with your point of view doesn't make them lesser human beings. Surely you aren't that cold... :?
    i don't respect a human being who would take a life for a goddamn paycheck. or for empire. or for country. or whatever the idealism behind the action. Bottom line, wars benefit a tiny wealthy minority, and the rest of us either fight or die or pay for it.

    i can see you point though. many soldiers are poor/uneducated, its a way out. but the day people stop volunteering to kill for their country might be around the day wars cease being fought.

    I agree with your last paragraph, but again, there are some poor fuckers who just don't have a choice. And when you get right down to it, they may not completely understand what's wrong about it, they're just doing what they have to do. I tend to think sometimes that it eases the consciences of the bastards who send them off that many of the soldiers are poor and uneducated. Horrible :evil:
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    Not to get into a pissing match about countries. But every soldier who comes home in a body bag should have the respect of every citizen in the country whether you believe in what they are fighting for or not. If war came knocking on our countries door, they would be the first to defend it. That is what they signed up for and that is the respect they deserve.


    Drones killing for empire deserve no respect.

    You're an ass...

    Not necessarily so or better yet maybe he's right.
    LAHORE: Of the 60 cross-border predator strikes carried out by the Afghanistan-based American drones in Pakistan between January 14, 2006 and April 8, 2009, only 10 were able to hit their actual targets, killing 14 wanted al-Qaeda leaders, besides perishing 687 innocent Pakistani civilians. The success percentage of the US predator strikes thus comes to not more than six per cent.

    Figures compiled by the Pakistani authorities show that a total of 701 people, including 14 al-Qaeda leaders, have been killed since January 2006 in 60 American predator attacks targeting the tribal areas of Pakistan. Two strikes carried out in 2006 had killed 98 civilians while three



    attacks conducted in 2007 had slain 66 Pakistanis, yet none of the wanted al-Qaeda or Taliban leaders could be hit by the Americans right on target. However, of the 50 drone attacks carried out between January 29, 2008 and April 8, 2009, 10 hit their targets and killed 14 wanted al-Qaeda operatives. Most of these attacks were carried out on the basis of intelligence believed to have been provided by the Pakistani and Afghan tribesmen who had been spying for the US-led allied forces stationed in Afghanistan.

    60 drone hits kill 14 al-Qaeda men, 687 civilians

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    weenie wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    Commy wrote:





    Unfortunately, there are people in our society who have families and/or relatives to support and have no choice but to either enlist in the service or be a criminal. There are also people who believe that serving their country is an honorable thing to do, whether they agree with the circumstances or not. You shouldn't generalize. All of us were raised in different circumstances and are living different lives. Disagreeing with your point of view doesn't make them lesser human beings. Surely you aren't that cold... :?
    i don't respect a human being who would take a life for a goddamn paycheck. or for empire. or for country. or whatever the idealism behind the action. Bottom line, wars benefit a tiny wealthy minority, and the rest of us either fight or die or pay for it.

    i can see you point though. many soldiers are poor/uneducated, its a way out. but the day people stop volunteering to kill for their country might be around the day wars cease being fought.

    I agree with your last paragraph, but again, there are some poor fuckers who just don't have a choice. And when you get right down to it, they may not completely understand what's wrong about it, they're just doing what they have to do. I tend to think sometimes that it eases the consciences of the bastards who send them off that many of the soldiers are poor and uneducated. Horrible :evil:

    I agree with you here, I've been there. I'm about in a few years have a stepson in the same predicment and at the moment joining the Marines could be best the choice he can make right now. I just don't if his mental make up will be one one that can carry himm through what he's about to face in the military.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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