Thank you to Congressman Peter King

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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    help me understand, why is a M. Jackson postage stamp a big issue...?
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Why should we honor a child molester???? That's the big deal about a Michael Jackson stamp
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    tybird wrote:
    Why should we honor a child molester???? That's the big deal about a Michael Jackson stamp

    when was he convicted...? :?
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    inmytree wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    Why should we honor a child molester???? That's the big deal about a Michael Jackson stamp

    when was he convicted...? :?
    That does not concern me.....his actions only speak of guilt....this is my view as a former victim of child molestation and whining about what was said and done in court is not going to change my mind....as to his music, I can't stand it......have never liked it.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    inmytree wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    Why should we honor a child molester???? That's the big deal about a Michael Jackson stamp

    when was he convicted...? :?

    The guy is guilty of being weird and putting himself in situations where it would appear he was a child molestor. However, he wasn't convicted. I'm with you though. Homer Simpson, James Dean, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, and Frank Sinatra. All of these people have been graced the stamp. All of them, yes...even Homer, have some questionable times in their life.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    tybird wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    Why should we honor a child molester???? That's the big deal about a Michael Jackson stamp

    when was he convicted...? :?
    That does not concern me.....his actions only speak of guilt....this is my view as a former victim of child molestation and whining about what was said and done in court is not going to change my mind....as to his music, I can't stand it......have never liked it.

    who's whining...? I was just asking a question...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    what i find funny is that this congressman's rant just fuels the media exposure of MJ ... keeps him in the news that much more ...
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Personally... i don't care either way. I will concede Michael Jackson's talent as an entertainer... although i don't care for Pop Music (the only record of his I ever had was the first Jackson 5 album... actually, it was my sister's record)... and I ain't no dancer.
    As for U.S. postage stamps... as someone previously noted, Elvis is on a stamp... so is Darth Vader. A stamp is used to get your electric bill paid... it is not some sort of religious symbol.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    inmytree wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    Why should we honor a child molester???? That's the big deal about a Michael Jackson stamp

    when was he convicted...? :?

    The guy is guilty of being weird and putting himself in situations where it would appear he was a child molestor. However, he wasn't convicted. I'm with you though. Homer Simpson, James Dean, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, and Frank Sinatra. All of these people have been graced the stamp. All of them, yes...even Homer, have some questionable times in their life.
    I believe there once rules about being honored on a stamp....he's met the first criteria...he's dead. There might be a time limit similar to go into a sports hall of fame....something like five years dead or some such, of course that could have changed....I'm trying to remember the gap between Reagen's and Nixon's deaths and the time before they were on a stamp.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    his interactions with children were unacceptable for any adult ,You think an average white male or black would get away with sleeping in the same bed with kids that weren't there's ? Yeah right.

    I watched as much as I could yesterday without throwing up. It was nothing but a bunch of grandstanding IMO.
    I thought Al Sharpton was talking about MLK for god's sake.


    It just illustrates how fuckin crazy this whole world has become. Remember the same people in the media extolling him yesterday were the same one giving his child molestation trial 24/7 coverage and after he was found not guilty ,the media didnt exactly elevate him to hero status did they ?
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    I wonder if all the people that are acussing King of being a racist would let there kids slepp over at The Neverland Ranch ?
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    I really really wish I could make this stuff up. Apparently, a bill has been introduced in the House that would recognize Michael Jackson as a humanitarian icon. Don't believe me? Here is the actual text of the bill, sponsored by a Congresswoman from Texas: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtex ... =hr111-600
    No matter how you feel about MJ, ask yourself DO WE NEED TO WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY MAKING THIS LAW?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    polaris_x wrote:
    what i find funny is that this congressman's rant just fuels the media exposure of MJ ... keeps him in the news that much more ...

    that is definitely a little ironic. that is definitely not the way to let things go away.

    if king keeps bashing mj every day i wonder how long it will be before he gets criticized for picking the wrong battle at the wrong time.

    over the last 30 years across the entire world very few entertainers have sold more records and entertained and brought joy to more people with their music than mj. in that respect i say give the man his stamp. if you don't like it, simply buy a damn purple heart or liberty bell forever stamp instead. problem solved.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    I really really wish I could make this stuff up. Apparently, a bill has been introduced in the House that would recognize Michael Jackson as a humanitarian icon. Don't believe me? Here is the actual text of the bill, sponsored by a Congresswoman from Texas: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtex ... =hr111-600
    No matter how you feel about MJ, ask yourself DO WE NEED TO WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY MAKING THIS LAW?

    yep thats when I really lost it yesterday I cant remember the lady's name that was talking about it but only in America can you be a total freak and be recognized as a humanitarian icon :?

    God I love this country :roll:
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    It's a freaking resolution...we aren't building a shrine to the guy or anything with taxpayer dollars. Do you have any idea on how many of these sort of resolutions go through the Congress every year?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    I really really wish I could make this stuff up. Apparently, a bill has been introduced in the House that would recognize Michael Jackson as a humanitarian icon. Don't believe me? Here is the actual text of the bill, sponsored by a Congresswoman from Texas: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtex ... =hr111-600
    No matter how you feel about MJ, ask yourself DO WE NEED TO WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY MAKING THIS LAW?

    Speak for yourself. I've never been so proud of myself. I haven't seen such a powerful, take-charge response to a pressing issue since Congress boldly changed french fries to freedom fries in the wake of the Iraq invasion controversy!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    It's a freaking resolution...we aren't building a shrine to the guy or anything with taxpayer dollars. Do you have any idea on how many of these sort of resolutions go through the Congress every year?

    Way way way way too many. I want a bill outlawing resolutions. A fucking waste of time.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    ... I watched as much as I could yesterday without throwing up. It was nothing but a bunch of grandstanding IMO.
    ...
    Yet... you admit, you watched it.
    I was home all day yesterday and did some laundry and cleaning up and crap after coming home from Hawaii... and watched 'Law And Order' re-runs because i knew how awful that 'Tribute' would be. I saw it on just about every station and opted for the 'Law and Order' station.
    People complain about the media coverage... yet, watch the very media they are complaining about. That is WHY the media frenzy exists... because people WATCH it.
    I don't understand the reasoning of people... but, i understand the reasoning for broadcasting. If the people will watch it... they will show it.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Cosmo wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    ... I watched as much as I could yesterday without throwing up. It was nothing but a bunch of grandstanding IMO.
    ...
    Yet... you admit, you watched it.
    I was home all day yesterday and did some laundry and cleaning up and crap after coming home from Hawaii... and watched 'Law And Order' re-runs because i knew how awful that 'Tribute' would be. I saw it on just about every station and opted for the 'Law and Order' station.
    People complain about the media coverage... yet, watch the very media they are complaining about. That is WHY the media frenzy exists... because people WATCH it.
    I don't understand the reasoning of people... but, i understand the reasoning for broadcasting. If the people will watch it... they will show it.

    Yeah so.. I was curious, and I watched about 15 minutes of it. I happened to like some of his earlier recordings and he was a hell of a performer. As i got older and all the accusation's started to come out I really didn't;t care for him anymore.
    I wasn't complaining about the media or anything for that matter I was simply giving my opinion.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    ... I watched as much as I could yesterday without throwing up. It was nothing but a bunch of grandstanding IMO.
    ...
    Yet... you admit, you watched it.
    I was home all day yesterday and did some laundry and cleaning up and crap after coming home from Hawaii... and watched 'Law And Order' re-runs because i knew how awful that 'Tribute' would be. I saw it on just about every station and opted for the 'Law and Order' station.
    People complain about the media coverage... yet, watch the very media they are complaining about. That is WHY the media frenzy exists... because people WATCH it.
    I don't understand the reasoning of people... but, i understand the reasoning for broadcasting. If the people will watch it... they will show it.

    Yeah so.. I was curious, and I watched about 15 minutes of it. I happened to like some of his earlier recordings and he was a hell of a performer. As i got older and all the accusation's started to come out I really didn't;t care for him anymore.
    I wasn't complaining about the media or anything for that matter I was simply giving my opinion.
    ...
    Hey... i'm just saying...
    I knew it was going to be a blow-fest from the beginning... even on paper, the thing looked like shit. I chose to avoid that shit because, seriously, i didn't give a crap. Michael Jackson's story has been a tragedy for a long, long time and i have no interests. I don't see him as anything other than an entertainer... not as some sort of idol... not as someone I feel the need to judge. Tragic? Yes. My concern? Nope.
    But, that's just me.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    inmytree wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    Why should we honor a child molester???? That's the big deal about a Michael Jackson stamp

    when was he convicted...? :?

    The guy is guilty of being weird and putting himself in situations where it would appear he was a child molestor. However, he wasn't convicted. I'm with you though. Homer Simpson, James Dean, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, and Frank Sinatra. All of these people have been graced the stamp. All of them, yes...even Homer, have some questionable times in their life.

    How many of them paid an alleged victim $25M to shut up?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    JB811 wrote:
    How many of them paid an alleged victim $25M to shut up?
    ...
    Answer: We don't know.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    It's a freaking resolution...we aren't building a shrine to the guy or anything with taxpayer dollars. Do you have any idea on how many of these sort of resolutions go through the Congress every year?

    I do, and that's my point. All I'm saying is, it's a waste of time. Time is money. The time they waste, is our money spent (wasted)... Although, I guess if this is all Congress did was come up with bullshit, I guess we should be happy... It's more time spent away from writing bills that REALLY actually screw us.

    I thought I've read you mention on here that you've climbed the ranks in the Democratic party... You aren't one of these clowns are you? ;)

    Edit: Allow me to clarify: One of these clowns you wrote this 'resolution.'
  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    tybird wrote:
    I believe there once rules about being honored on a stamp....he's met the first criteria...he's dead. There might be a time limit similar to go into a sports hall of fame....something like five years dead or some such, of course that could have changed....I'm trying to remember the gap between Reagen's and Nixon's deaths and the time before they were on a stamp.
    The rules haven't changed. A person has to have been dead for 5 years before they can be honored with a stamp. The exception is a U.S. president and those stamps are now issued the year after a president's death, like Gerald Ford's just a couple of years ago.

    But putting MJ on a stamp? There have been controversial choices before, as someone said. I don't much like the idea but I don't have really strong feelings about it. In 5 years maybe no one will be interested.

    I also can't get past wondering which MJ face they'd use. :? :P
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    tybird wrote:
    I believe there once rules about being honored on a stamp....he's met the first criteria...he's dead. There might be a time limit similar to go into a sports hall of fame....something like five years dead or some such, of course that could have changed....I'm trying to remember the gap between Reagen's and Nixon's deaths and the time before they were on a stamp.
    The rules haven't changed. A person has to have been dead for 5 years before they can be honored with a stamp. The exception is a U.S. president and those stamps are now issued the year after a president's death, like Gerald Ford's just a couple of years ago.

    But putting MJ on a stamp? There have been controversial choices before, as someone said. I don't much like the idea but I don't have really strong feelings about it. In 5 years maybe no one will be interested.

    I also can't get past wondering which MJ face they'd use. :? :P

    How about putting Jackson 5 MJ on a stamp, or MJ before he started looking like Skeletor and was pretty questionable in terms of his behavior?
  • PearlJainPearlJain Posts: 565
    art.simpsons.stamp.courtesy.jpg

    Actually -
    This picture - was MY exact thoughts today. Give it time. MJ will get a Posage Stamp at some point -in the future....
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    It's a freaking resolution...we aren't building a shrine to the guy or anything with taxpayer dollars. Do you have any idea on how many of these sort of resolutions go through the Congress every year?

    I do, and that's my point. All I'm saying is, it's a waste of time. Time is money. The time they waste, is our money spent (wasted)... Although, I guess if this is all Congress did was come up with bullshit, I guess we should be happy... It's more time spent away from writing bills that REALLY actually screw us.

    I thought I've read you mention on here that you've climbed the ranks in the Democratic party... You aren't one of these clowns are you? ;)

    Edit: Allow me to clarify: One of these clowns you wrote this 'resolution.'

    Not at all. I'll agree with everyone else, that resolutions are a big waste of time and nothing but a circle jerk.
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