What is going on w/ the band/10C?

I hate to be the one to gripe since I'm just an ordinary person like the rest of the fans here but I think it's called for right now. What ever happened to the days when we got the WHOLE tour dates announced in 1 or 2 tweets/updates. As in the band's schedule for the rest of the year. I swear now we get 16 fuckin' tweets just to announce 2 shows or something. Do they schedule at the last second these days?...
Furthermore, I will bet anyone here that no other band makes their fans wait longer or gives them one new song on a late night talk show w/out releasing it that week? JUST A NEW SINGLE, THAT'S ALL!! You know, like when Worldwide Suicide/Unemployable was available on iTunes months before the last record. Yes, I know the Christmas singles count but they never play them live, for a reason I guess. Who knows? My hypothesis for the decline of PJ faults & 3 1/2 years in between new music? The guys are all parents now (x Jeff I think), getting older and I guarantee we'll less of big tours or new albums within 2-2 1/2 years apart...
Furthermore, I will bet anyone here that no other band makes their fans wait longer or gives them one new song on a late night talk show w/out releasing it that week? JUST A NEW SINGLE, THAT'S ALL!! You know, like when Worldwide Suicide/Unemployable was available on iTunes months before the last record. Yes, I know the Christmas singles count but they never play them live, for a reason I guess. Who knows? My hypothesis for the decline of PJ faults & 3 1/2 years in between new music? The guys are all parents now (x Jeff I think), getting older and I guarantee we'll less of big tours or new albums within 2-2 1/2 years apart...

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Nowadays that is not possible.
And yes they are all family men now. That is just how life goes. No reason to be upset about it in my opinion.
I'm not the same as I was in 1994 and neither is my favorite band. No big deal. Just roll with it and enjoy the ride.
the way i see it, there are plenty of good days left to come.
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I rememeber having to make a collect call to seattle just to plug into the 10 club voicemail annoucements about the band's touring and releases..in 1994 and 1995...
QUIT YOR BITCHIN ALREADY..
We are the most lavished spoiled fans of all time...
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I totally missed that... but I'd say if Christ is indeed a 10C member, he probably transcends Ten Club numbers.[/quote]
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I do wish they would announce things earlier. I find that a rather legitimate gripe. Especially as they have a hard core following who needs time to make plans and travel.
I've adjusted my schedule to see them at the Outside Lands Festival. That is my only show currently scheduled for 2009.
Now if they actually tour the West Coast, I might have a tinge of regret for having engineered my work schedule to have me traveling to San Jose in August.
The OP seems reasonable and just a bit frustrated as we all get sometimes. I find that it is usually not worth letting the little stuff get to you. (Hell someone wrote a book called "Don't sweat the small stuff")
And everything associated with following a band should be considered 'small stuff', in the scheme of life.
I'm not directing this at the OP, but some people get upset about every little thing that doesn't go their way. Instead of just rolling with it, and adjusting accordingly. ALL things can be understood if you take out proper perspective.
Even the Ten clubs lack of communication and unusual recent policy of announcing dates in small bunches.
Here is the silver lining for me going to the OL Festival. A.) I've never seen Pearl Jam at a festival, so that will be interesting. B.) I'll get to check out some other bands, I normally would never have an opportunity to see. C.) I've scheduled a business trip, so my hotel, and flight will be paid for by my employer.
and for me the big one. D.) As this show is pre-album release, this mini Europe/Canada/USA run in August will perhaps have a different vibe than a post 'Backspacer' tour. (perhaps much like the unique and awesome 2008 East Coast mini tour)
If I get to see them both pre and post album drop, it will feel like seeing them on two totally different tours with different vibes.
Hell yeah!
Wilds - I like your perspective and outlook. Putting things in perspective is very good for the soul. Often times, it take a tragedy of some sort for people to really balance what is important and what is worth sweating - just my opinion based on my own personal experience.
In regards to the post I've quoted here, I think you've raised some really good points. My response is not being critical of your words or choices but kind of building on them to make my point.
If I know I can only afford to go to one show during the year, and they only announce one that is 2000 miles away, I may make some serious financial/life planning decisions to make that happen because I don't want to lose the opportunity of getting to see them and I don't know when they will tour again. So, if I make those plans, construct my life around those dates, etc. then they announce a month later that they will be playing 2 shows within 200 miles, that would be frustrating. I may have just spent a lot of money that I wouldn't have had to if I knew at the time they would be playing so close a few months later.
That makes me think of a few thoughts for further ponderance. If we make our decisions and are truly "ok" with those decisions, there should be no regret (of course this is the ideal
So hearing about the Philly shows has made me really think about this a lot. Ok, so Philly is not close to me, but neither is Texas or Austrailia. Philly is closer (i've not checked the map so don't jump on this if I'm wrong!). If the announcement this week only reveals those 3 expected cities, do I jump on Philly or do I hold out in hopes for a show in the midwest later? Personally, I'm hoping a lot of people jump on Philly and then don't have money/time left to attend later annonced shows - then I might get good seats
We are definitely spoiled now.
We are really lucky fans to be able to continue to hear new music from our favorite band.. how many years now?
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I dont know what your talking about in regards to the single.
WWS was released 50 days before "Pearl Jam"
The Fixer is being released 64 days before "Backspacer"
So were actually geting the single 2 weeks earlier than we did last album
and Modest Mouse played a new song on Letterman earlier this year a few months before they released it....Pearl Jam wasnt gonna pass up a chance to play on the debut of the tonight show with Conan because the first single wasnt ready.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Pearl Jam and they are one of my favorite bands of all time, sometimes it gets very frustrating. I am 40 years old and have been going to concerts (about 550-600 in my life) since 1981, just announce the tour dates already or at least say these are the areas we plan on playing around these dates but are still trying to work out the logistics. I saw Grateful Dead about 170 times and they would announce Spring, summer and fall tour every year and say these are the dates and these are the dates you can start sending mail order for tickets, not rocket science! I just saw Phish 3 shows in the midwest in June, they announced the dates and said you can send your request in until this date, again not rocket science by any means.
But sometimes with Pearl Jam it's like they are holding some type of government FBI or CIA secret that can't be leaked. Sorry guys it's 2009, trying to keep anything a secret in this day and age is almost impossible, they are already playing in Austin for ACL so I am going to that. But if they are planning on playing somewhere else (West Coast) I sure would like to know so I can call my friends and make arrangements to stay with them, but until then I will just have to wait for the top secret disc or envelope to arrive somewhere before the top secret dates will be released. And all the "stop your whining" "stop your bitching" post that are coming save it, don't waste your time, these are just my opinions, if you don't agree with them, so be it.
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Who's to say you won't hear ALL the official 2010 tour summer dates in December or something?
Am I the only diehard here happy with going to one or two shows a tour?
I'm happy to go to one and would love two shows.. I'm also still interested in a 10c ticket for 8/23 if you have one :P
The cheese steak reference is the only official word we have about Philly, but with that you can take all those other rumors to the bank IMO.
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All good points. Certainly someones proximity to area's where they normally play, has more options.
Once travel time/distance and cost become higher, I can absolutely see being upset about committing to a long distance show, then having one announced in your back yard.
My situation in this case would really be the best of both worlds......
Each case is unique.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”