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burnsburns Posts: 109
edited June 2009 in The Porch
Saw Kings Of Leon in Berlin past saturday. My first time and it seams my last time.
They played in a huge arena - i guess there where 12000 poeple and everything was very clean.
I mean we talk about a ROCK CONCERT.....
And KOL played like they where in hurry. Each song sounds like the songs fom the CD.
I saw PJ many times and they have had always a great show, nothing like circus - just a pure rock concert + they are close to the fans..., how close they can be from stage !
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    ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    I used to be a big huge fan of KOL but this is the exact reason why I'm not anymore.
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    FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 916
    Think their show loses something in the big arena translation. The 2 times I saw them at small clubs they were unreal. The last 2 times I saw them at MSG and The Spectrum the shows were ho hum-and very rushed. Plus playing the same set list every night doesn't help me want to see them again either.
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    Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    flash in the pan
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
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    OkOk Posts: 2,144
    I still think KOL can make some decent music if they go back to what go them to the position they're in....BUT....I agree, the recent US tour was a joke. They need to refocus.
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    Gary CarterGary Carter Shea Stadium Posts: 13,942
    Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:
    flash in the pan
    as are most bands from todays music
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    WildEyedMaryWildEyedMary Posts: 127
    Fastrichie wrote:
    Think their show loses something in the big arena translation. The 2 times I saw them at small clubs they were unreal. The last 2 times I saw them at MSG and The Spectrum the shows were ho hum-and very rushed. Plus playing the same set list every night doesn't help me want to see them again either.

    Hmm this is an interesting thread. I really want to see them here in CO and I am trying everyday to get tickets. I have never seen them before and assumed they would put on a really good show. Now I don't know. They are playing Red Rocks in August. Its not exactly a big arena or a small club. I wonder how they will be?
    If I had known then what I know now...
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    FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 916
    If you haven't seen them I would go check them out. But one time will be enough.
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    WildEyedMaryWildEyedMary Posts: 127
    Fastrichie wrote:
    If you haven't seen them I would go check them out. But one time will be enough.


    Okay that helps. I will try to get tickets mostly because its at Red Rocks. This way if I miss out it won't be that big of a deal...its not like its the same as missing out on PJ in the town you live in. :D
    If I had known then what I know now...
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Zoso wrote:
    I used to be a big huge fan of KOL but this is the exact reason why I'm not anymore.

    I saw the Spectrum and MSG shows also...and I agree with the consensus here. The flashing lights on stage were terrible too...

    It really is a shame...their first two albums are awesome. I think they have sold out...their last album has too many ballads and slow crappy songs.

    and why they play charmer live at almost every show is beyond me...that could be the worst song ever made
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    redeyeredeye Posts: 620
    i seen them once, personally i think they need a break, the seem to be constantly touring,
    plus they have moved up to arenas to quickly, they dont have enough songs yet
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    Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    burns wrote:
    Saw Kings Of Leon in Berlin past saturday. My first time and it seams my last time.
    They played in a huge arena - i guess there where 12000 poeple and everything was very clean.
    I mean we talk about a ROCK CONCERT.....
    And KOL played like they where in hurry. Each song sounds like the songs fom the CD.
    I saw PJ many times and they have had always a great show, nothing like circus - just a pure rock concert + they are close to the fans..., how close they can be from stage !


    Im sorry you had a bad experience :(
    I love them live, I saw them in Miami last month and it was such a great show! We are going to see them again in ACL and then driving to ATL the weekend after.
    Maybe it was because it was a festival?
    You should give them one more shot, maybe at one of their shows rather than a festival.
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    Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    lastexitman wrote:
    i seen them once, personally i think they need a break, the seem to be constantly touring,
    plus they have moved up to arenas to quickly, they dont have enough songs yet


    +1
    they are overtoured by now, Jared has said it already he is sick of touring, and mind you thats the only way you make the bucks but they have been on the road forever, they need a break to rest and spend time with their friends and families.
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    guacamolejoeguacamolejoe Posts: 2,396
    CrazyMary6 wrote:
    Fastrichie wrote:
    Think their show loses something in the big arena translation. The 2 times I saw them at small clubs they were unreal. The last 2 times I saw them at MSG and The Spectrum the shows were ho hum-and very rushed. Plus playing the same set list every night doesn't help me want to see them again either.

    Hmm this is an interesting thread. I really want to see them here in CO and I am trying everyday to get tickets. I have never seen them before and assumed they would put on a really good show. Now I don't know. They are playing Red Rocks in August. Its not exactly a big arena or a small club. I wonder how they will be?
    I have never seen a disappointing show at Red Rocks yet! I've seen KOL a few times. Although they are probably tired of the touring by now, Red Rocks always seams to boost the level of play out of most performers imo. Who wouldn't love to be there! I would go if I were you. I'm me and I'm going ;) .
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    Nickle13Nickle13 Posts: 41
    The Fixer wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    I used to be a big huge fan of KOL but this is the exact reason why I'm not anymore.

    It really is a shame...their first two albums are awesome. I think they have sold out...their last album has too many ballads and slow crappy songs.

    Sounds like the same things people said about Pearl Jam so many years ago
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    burnsburns Posts: 109
    Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:
    burns wrote:
    Saw Kings Of Leon in Berlin past saturday. My first time and it seams my last time.
    They played in a huge arena - i guess there where 12000 poeple and everything was very clean.
    I mean we talk about a ROCK CONCERT.....
    And KOL played like they where in hurry. Each song sounds like the songs fom the CD.
    I saw PJ many times and they have had always a great show, nothing like circus - just a pure rock concert + they are close to the fans..., how close they can be from stage !


    Im sorry you had a bad experience :(
    I love them live, I saw them in Miami last month and it was such a great show! We are going to see them again in ACL and then driving to ATL the weekend after.
    Maybe it was because it was a festival?
    You should give them one more shot, maybe at one of their shows rather than a festival.

    Hey Mrs. Vedder,
    no, it wasn´t a festival - just KOL and a opener.
    I have all the albums of KOL, and actually i love the songs - but the show was a disappointment.
    Next time i hope they use a smaller arena/hall....
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Nickle13 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    I used to be a big huge fan of KOL but this is the exact reason why I'm not anymore.

    It really is a shame...their first two albums are awesome. I think they have sold out...their last album has too many ballads and slow crappy songs.

    Sounds like the same things people said about Pearl Jam so many years ago

    PJ never changed their image though. KOL used to be scruffy dudes that just rocked. Now they are clean shaving pretty boys that are playing love songs. The last album, excpet for Closer and Crawl, is awful. At the shows I saw the new songs are the ones the crowd was most into. It was disappointing.
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    hitmanhitman Posts: 469
    ok... i am a fairly huge pearl jam fan... what is a good album by KOL for me to get to try to see what all the fuss is about? i have heard maybe two KOL songs in my life, was fairly luke-warm about them, but i am sure i must be missing something.

    anyone have any thoughts as to what i should check out??
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    gusturtlegusturtle Posts: 440
    someone mentioned they didn't have enough songs yet to be playing arenas so soon. i disagree - they have four albums, plus several b-sides as well. the problem, as someone also mentioned, is that they don't change the setlist up at all. They keep playing the same 20 or so songs each night, when they've got about 30 more that they could be rotating in as well.

    i do prefer them in a smaller setting, because it makes the show so much better. they just need to switch things up a bit, or at least expand the show beyond the 90-minute mark. it wouldn't kill them to play for a couple hours. they definitely have the catalog for that.
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    BH71937 wrote:
    ok... i am a fairly huge pearl jam fan... what is a good album by KOL for me to get to try to see what all the fuss is about? i have heard maybe two KOL songs in my life, was fairly luke-warm about them, but i am sure i must be missing something.

    anyone have any thoughts as to what i should check out??

    Aha Shake Heartbreak and Youth and Young Manhood are both incredible albums...the third and fourth albums, Only by the Night and Because of the Times, are not that good (in my opinion).
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    Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    I'm going to see Kings of Leon in September in Boston. I'm sure its going to be an awesome show! :D
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    bazzerbazzer Posts: 3,090
    Probably the best time(s) I saw them was when they opened for PJ in Australia. Half empty arenas, but they were awesome. I saw them 4 times and didn't get sick of them. Last time they were back here was pretty lacklustre, which is sad.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,314
    i love berlin,,and ill love it more at 15-8 when i see pj live..
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    glorified_jglorified_j Posts: 183
    edited June 2009
    I saw them in San Fran at the Bill Graham Civic, it was my first KOL show and I thought it was great. That is an awesome venue to see a show. I was up front on the rail and had a really enjoyable time - snagged a pick from Caleb and a drumstick. However, I get the frustrations with the repetative setlists. They do need to change it up more often. They have a decent amount of songs in their catalog but don't utilize it.

    Best live song by them is Four Kicks. Heavy stuff. Great lyrics. It rocks live.
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    vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,860
    lastexitman wrote:
    i seen them once, personally i think they need a break, the seem to be constantly touring,
    plus they have moved up to arenas to quickly, they dont have enough songs yet

    well yes, they do tour a lot, but they are a lot bigger in Europe than they are in the US, and they have been playing arena shows there for a while.
    As for not enough songs, you do know that they have 4 albums? not just the 1 or 2 that you may have heard?

    it was evident when i saw them in an arena show in Australia earlier this year that most people only knew the latest album, and some of the older songs did not get the respose that they deserved, the crowd was there 2 hear 2 songs, and quite a lot left after they heard them. That is a sydney crowd for you as well... :lol:
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