Does MJ's death mean PJ will be playing RATS at every show?

10ctoronto

Please say it's so!!! I have not heard RATS and I have been to maybe 12 shows.

Maybe even Ed will bust out something in Hawaii

LukinFan

Interesting 1st post, but I don't see them playing it anymore than they have before. If you want to hear it, just go to a NYC show

decides2dream

LukinFan wrote:

Interesting 1st post, but I don't see them playing it anymore than they have before. If you want to hear it, just go to a NYC show

:?:

i think i actually got to hear rats live for the first time in dusseldorf 2007.
i've been to all the NYC shows since 2003, tho i'll admit my memory is shit. :P


and today is the first i learned of the lyric connection between the two... :oops:

small town beck

decides2dream wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

Interesting 1st post, but I don't see them playing it anymore than they have before. If you want to hear it, just go to a NYC show

:?:

i think i actually got to hear rats live for the first time in dusseldorf 2007.
i've been to all the NYC shows since 2003, tho i'll admit my memory is shit. :P


and today is the first i learned of the lyric connection between the two... :oops:

Dreams!!!!

Lizard

decides2dream wrote:

and today is the first i learned of the lyric connection between the two... :oops:

:shock:

12345AGNST1

Am I missing something?

What does the song Rats have anything to do with Michael Jackson?

Come Back in Black

Ok.. so I'm a lyrical moron. I don't see a connection to Michael Jackson. Fill me in......

They don't eat, don't sleep
They don't feed, they don't seethe
Bare their gums when they moan and squeak
Lick the dirt off a larger one's feet
They don't push, don't crowd
Congregate until they're much too loud
Fuck to procreate till they are dead
Drink the blood of their so called best friend

They don't scurry when something bigger comes their way
Don't pack themselves together and run as one
Don't shit where they're not supposed to
Don't take what's not theirs, they don't compare

They don't scam, don't fight
Don't oppress an equals given rights
Starve the poor so they can be well fed
Line their holes with the dead ones bread

They don't scurry when something bigger comes their way
Don't pack themselves together and run as one (2x)
Don't shit where they're not supposed to
Don't take what's not theirs, they don't compare...

Rats...They don't compare (2x)
Ben, the two of us need look no more (6X)

LikeAnOcean

12345AGNST1 wrote:

Am I missing something?

What does the song Rats have anything to do with Michael Jackson?

"Ben, the two of us need look no more" is taken from Michael Jackson's song "Ben". It was a song about Michael Jackson's pet rat.

rodent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSqo17o2a1w

Come Back in Black

LikeAnOcean wrote:

12345AGNST1 wrote:

Am I missing something?

What does the song Rats have anything to do with Michael Jackson?

"Ben, the two of us need look no more" is taken from Michael Jackson's song "Ben". It was a song about Michael Jackson's pet rat.

Oh... so in that case.. you think the original poster has been waiting around for MJ to die so he could break out that little gem with his first post? You know... really let the freak flag fly. The second responder knew what he meant and commented on how it was really impressive that a first time poster would know such a senior geek level thing. But the second poster wasn't going to reveal it. Cuz you know.. PJ knowledge is not something you let go lightly. Its like a gang symbol for MS-13.

LikeAnOcean

Come Back in Black wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

12345AGNST1 wrote:

Am I missing something?

What does the song Rats have anything to do with Michael Jackson?

"Ben, the two of us need look no more" is taken from Michael Jackson's song "Ben". It was a song about Michael Jackson's pet rat.

Oh... so in that case.. you think the original poster has been waiting around for MJ to die so he could break out that little gem with his first post? You know... really let the freak flag fly. The second responder knew what he meant and commented on how it was really impressive that a first time poster would know such a senior geek level thing. But the second poster wasn't going to reveal it. Cuz you know.. PJ knowledge is not something you let go lightly. Its like a gang symbol for MS-13.

I'm confused.. just because you are a first time poster means you don't know anything about the band?

I'm sure there's only a small percentage of us that post here. I bet there's people who go to every show, know every detail that have never posted here or even looked at the board.

decides2dream

small town beck wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

Interesting 1st post, but I don't see them playing it anymore than they have before. If you want to hear it, just go to a NYC show

:?:

i think i actually got to hear rats live for the first time in dusseldorf 2007.
i've been to all the NYC shows since 2003, tho i'll admit my memory is shit. :P


and today is the first i learned of the lyric connection between the two... :oops:

Dreams!!!!

:oops:
mea culpa for not having every single pearl jam lyric commited to memory verbatim AND for not even knowing of this mj song entitled ben, about his pet rat....all of which, yes, i had ZERO knowledge of until today. color me embarassed for my faux pas.

Lizard

Come Back in Black wrote:

The second responder knew what he meant and commented on how it was really impressive that a first time poster would know such a senior geek level thing.

Geek level thing?? I made the connection right away when I first heard Rats. But probably only because I am OLD , not a geek. Well....................i'm that too but not due to PJ!!!

decides2dream

Lizard wrote:

Come Back in Black wrote:

The second responder knew what he meant and commented on how it was really impressive that a first time poster would know such a senior geek level thing.

Geek level thing?? I made the connection right away when I first heard Rats. But probably only because I am OLD , not a geek. Well....................i'm that too but not due to PJ!!!

old and/or geek, imo has nothing to do with it! one must know this mj song to make the connection.....never knew the song, so i had no idea. period. i really don't think it's a 'pj geek' thing to know, at all.....



btw this:

LukinFan wrote:

Interesting 1st post, but I don't see them playing it anymore than they have before. If you want to hear it, just go to a NYC show

to me in no way infers:

Come Back in Black wrote:

The second responder knew what he meant and commented on how it was really impressive that a first time poster would know such a senior geek level thing.

Zidane

Ah... C'mon. I mean, it's all good. For those that didn't know the link between the song and Jackson's song, it's not the end of the world. You always learn a new thing every day! That's it, nothing to be mad or shy or ashamed of...!

decides2dream

Zidane wrote:

Ah... C'mon. I mean, it's all good. For those that didn't know the link between the song and Jackson's song, it's not the end of the world. You always learn a new thing every day! That's it, nothing to be mad or shy or ashamed of...!

that was absolute humor.....hence the haha.
and i do agree.....always learning, and definitely a cool little tidbit to know about, even this late in the game...

Come Back in Black

Lizard wrote:

Come Back in Black wrote:

The second responder knew what he meant and commented on how it was really impressive that a first time poster would know such a senior geek level thing.

Geek level thing?? I made the connection right away when I first heard Rats. But probably only because I am OLD , not a geek. Well....................i'm that too but not due to PJ!!!

Ha! I'm just playing. Technically we are all geeks just for being here.

heather_honey

I forget which boot it's on (maybe more than one anyway) where Ed says, "Michael Jackson was innocent" during the wind down of Rats. It was one of the first things that came to my mind yesterday....

Come Back in Black

heather_honey wrote:

I forget which boot it's on (maybe more than one anyway) where Ed says, "Michael Jackson was innocent" during the wind down of Rats. It was one of the first things that came to my mind yesterday....

I remember his saying that but didn't know the connection to rats and couldn't tell if he was kidding or not. I know Eddie was big into singing jackson 5 stuff when he was a kid.

small town beck

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:?:

i think i actually got to hear rats live for the first time in dusseldorf 2007.
i've been to all the NYC shows since 2003, tho i'll admit my memory is shit. :P


and today is the first i learned of the lyric connection between the two... :oops:[/quote]


Dreams!!!! [/quote]



:oops:
mea culpa for not having every single pearl jam lyric commited to memory verbatim AND for not even knowing of this mj song entitled ben, about his pet rat....all of which, yes, i had ZERO knowledge of until today. color me embarassed for my faux pas.


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It was of course meant in jest I know you got that but some people might have missed it.

Lizard

decides2dream wrote:

old and/or geek, imo has nothing to do with it! one must know this mj song to make the connection.....never knew the song, so i had no idea.

Well for some it IS the age thing. Ben was a huge movie when I was growing up and you couldn't help but hear that song!!!

But as others have said, it's all good!!!

bv237207

"Michael Jackson is innocent" was sung during the Atlanta concert 1994 and can be found on the Dissident 3 cd-single disc set

jimbojones1138

LikeAnOcean wrote:

I'm confused.. just because you are a first time poster means you don't know anything about the band?

i post on this board all the time and dont know much about the band, although i do know this!

pearl jam does a mean cover of betterman... and I love their original song "teenage wasteland"

decides2dream

Lizard wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

old and/or geek, imo has nothing to do with it! one must know this mj song to make the connection.....never knew the song, so i had no idea.

Well for some it IS the age thing. Ben was a huge movie when I was growing up and you couldn't help but hear that song!!!

But as others have said, it's all good!!!

are you serious?
i seriously had/have NO idea about a movie entitled ben, nor the song, etc. and sure, i really haven't been listening to the radio in a looooonnnnnggggg while, but i most definitely did as a kid/teen, tho mostly classic rock/alterative-new wave rock stations, so perhaps that's why? i didn't think i was so out of the loop back then, but apparently i was? :?

haha.





and yet another interesting tidbit:

bv237207 wrote:

"Michael Jackson is innocent" was sung during the Atlanta concert 1994 and can be found on the Dissident 3 cd-single disc set

and beckygirl, i knew it was in jest.....as was my reply.
all in good fun!

Lizard

Oops---the movie is Willard!!! (Brain fart!!)

decides2dream

Lizard wrote:

Oops---the movie is Willard!!! (Brain fart!!)

can't say i recall that either.... :oops: hahahaha.
well alrighty, it is clearly established i have always lived under a rock apparently.

josevolution

bv237207 wrote:

"Michael Jackson is innocent" was sung during the Atlanta concert 1994 and can be found on the Dissident 3 cd-single disc set

94 ? i don't believe there were any allegations of him back then or i just don't remember ..

decides2dream

josevolution wrote:

bv237207 wrote:

"Michael Jackson is innocent" was sung during the Atlanta concert 1994 and can be found on the Dissident 3 cd-single disc set

94 ? i don't believe there were any allegations of him back then or i just don't remember ..

welcome to the club my friend.
seriously, i don't feel old...but all of this today, i am starting to feel old and unbelievably forgetful. yikes..... :?

josevolution

decides2dream wrote:

josevolution wrote:

bv237207 wrote:

"Michael Jackson is innocent" was sung during the Atlanta concert 1994 and can be found on the Dissident 3 cd-single disc set

94 ? i don't believe there were any allegations of him back then or i just don't remember ..

welcome to the club my friend.
seriously, i don't feel old...but all of this today, i am starting to feel old and unbelievably forgetful. yikes..... :?

I hear you d2d i am an old man :oops: ..

Riverrunner

Lizard wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

old and/or geek, imo has nothing to do with it! one must know this mj song to make the connection.....never knew the song, so i had no idea.

Well for some it IS the age thing. Ben was a huge movie when I was growing up and you couldn't help but hear that song!!!

But as others have said, it's all good!!!

I keep thinking the name of the movie was "Ben" too. I guess because I associate that song with the movie. I remember the song more than the movie.

norm

josevolution wrote:

bv237207 wrote:

"Michael Jackson is innocent" was sung during the Atlanta concert 1994 and can be found on the Dissident 3 cd-single disc set

94 ? i don't believe there were any allegations of him back then or i just don't remember ..

first allegations were in 93 :ugeek:


d2d i'm very disappointed....you can turn your 10c membership card in at any target store :P :P