ARC live

BettrMan21BettrMan21 Chattanooga,Tn Posts: 287
edited June 2009 in The Porch
I HOPE, HOPE, HOPE at some point we can purchase some of Ed's solo stuff if for nothing other than a live version of ARC. It has been the most amazing thing Ed has played yet. It's all I can do to keep my eyes dry.
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    I love watching Ed perform "Arc".

    It's the purest showcase of his amazing vocal talent.


    It's has easily been the highlight of every one of his solo shows.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,223
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I love watching Ed perform "Arc".

    It's the purest showcase of his amazing vocal talent.


    It's has easily been the highlight of every one of his solo shows.
    Except maybe Baltimore... poor people at that show who couldn't see that gem.
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  • CS16215 wrote:
    I HOPE, HOPE, HOPE at some point we can purchase some of Ed's solo stuff if for nothing other than a live version of ARC. It has been the most amazing thing Ed has played yet. It's all I can do to keep my eyes dry.

    when i first saw him do this last year in Boston it brought tears to my eyes(knowing the significance behind it)...just the pure emotion being poured out of Ed without saying a word..nothing short of awesome!!...dam..i need a tissue!
  • phungiphungi Posts: 641
    Given the time zone differences, the June 29 solo EV show in Hawaii might take place close to the same time as the June 30th tragedy in 2000...
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  • phungi wrote:
    Given the time zone differences, the June 29 solo EV show in Hawaii might take place close to the same time as the June 30th tragedy in 2000...

    that don't matter..last summer the last show of the tour in Mansfield was on the 30th and i thought they'd do arc or LBC..we didn't get either..not even a word or moment of silence or anything...kinda weird IMO.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    I've heard so many Eddie solo shows and i hate how everyone starts cheering loads at the end for the last 3/4 mins, i know its amazing what he is doing etc but god dam let me hear it at least!! But it gets harder and better at it goes a long so why bother screaming your head off and putting him off and reducing your chance of hearing it.

    OH well
  • CalumCalum Posts: 635
    that song will forever haunt me, but in a good way.. it felt errie but amazing.. albany rocked!
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  • CranMalReignCranMalReign Posts: 1,928
    I've only ever heard it live once (Philly I this year)... started off very Arc-y... but then threw in some "Wolf" from ITW. Is that common?

    Regardless, it was completely amazing, although I thought the Wolf add-in sort of shifted the hue of the song a little.

    Every time I tried to submerge myself in it, idiots started screaming. I don't understand some people.

    Also, I'm hungry and would like to go to lunch now.
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  • I found this posted in Wikipedia when I searched for "ARC PEARL JAM". Note the last two sentences. ... The tragedy was 9 years ago (on June 30th - a day Ed is taking off from his tour in Hawaii.)

    "Regarding the time period when the lyrics were being written, Vedder said, "There's been a lot of mortality...It's a weird time to be writing. Roskilde changed the shape of us as people, and our filter for seeing the world changed."[26] Several songs on the album were inspired by the June 2000 Roskilde Festival tragedy in which nine people died during Pearl Jam's set. The album's first single, "I Am Mine", was written by Vedder in 2000 in a hotel room before the band's first show after the Roskilde tragedy.[27] "Love Boat Captain" includes brief reference to Roskilde ("Lost 9 friends we'll never know... 2 years ago today"). When it was performed at concerts thereafter, Vedder noted the passing of time by updating the lyrics (by 2008, the lyric was "8 years ago today"). The track entitled "Arc" was recorded as a vocal tribute to the nine people who died at the festival. Vedder only performed this song nine times on Pearl Jam's 2003 tour, and the band left the track off all released bootlegs as an act of respect." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_Act_(album)
  • Nice find. I've never read that but it's interesting and a respectful move by the band. I guess that probably means if they ever do release any boots from Ed's solo shows then they won't cantain ARC (Which is ashame, but I understand)

    It truly is a truly moving song when heard live and I really enjoy the "wolf" pieces he throws in there. I think it gives it more character.
  • morgie2morgie2 Posts: 1,065
    Don't think they'll ever release a bootleg with it on there. Even non-official boots leave it off out of respect.
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  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    Arc live is so powerful and moving. Its amazing.
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  • IamMineIamMine Posts: 2,743
    Calum wrote:
    that song will forever haunt me, but in a good way..

    +1 here. Amazing how five minutes of that felt like only one minute! It totally sucks you into it.

    And it's permanently stuck with me. Feeling it when thinking about those 9 lost lives.

    Very emotional and I finally understood why it was left out of my Riot Act book...when I was looking for lyrics. At least I thought there were.

    Found out why...and I appreciate it even more now. I totally respect PJ/EV for not releasing this out of respect for those 9 lost lives.

    It's like watching something on TV and you'd still be moved...but not as much as you would be if you were really there.

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  • CalumCalum Posts: 635
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I am with you IamMine... It was haunting, just to have silence, and the 1st time he sings... was unreal.
    I also heard the combination of arc + wolf, was also good.
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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    phungi wrote:
    Given the time zone differences, the June 29 solo EV show in Hawaii might take place close to the same time as the June 30th tragedy in 2000...

    that don't matter..last summer the last show of the tour in Mansfield was on the 30th and i thought they'd do arc or LBC..we didn't get either..not even a word or moment of silence or anything...kinda weird IMO.

    He did sing the first ten seconds of Arc........listen just as the first encore starts.......he is singing it as he walks up to the mic
  • TooMuchBloodTooMuchBlood Posts: 312
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I love watching Ed perform "Arc".

    It's the purest showcase of his amazing vocal talent.


    It's has easily been the highlight of every one of his solo shows.

    Nicely said. I still have to say "Hard Sun" was my favorite moment, with the lights on and getting up to 10 feet away -- and Eddie's tossing his pick toward me. Lost it. Fun story, though.
  • Rjonesrm20Rjonesrm20 Posts: 380
    since ARC was for the nine that passed at Roskilde
    i'm curious if Wolf is for Chris McCandless.....as sort of a prayer as well....
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,902
    Ed has made this song great to see live on this solo tour. When I saw it on the PJ tour a while back it was OK, but ed really turned it up on his solo tour, I thinkLiam and his sampling skills may have a lot to do with that??
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    Arc was a highlight for me for sure! I could listen forever..... ;)
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  • scw156scw156 Posts: 442
    i've heard Arc live 1.5 times i believe
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  • I don't know if he has performed Arc at all of his solo shows this summer, or whether he performed it the way he did in Nashville on 6/18. I was absolutely blown away. I also figured it was Liams' influence and techno gadgets that maybe Ed was experimenting with. I wouldn't necessarily want PJ or Ed to become addicted to those tools, but it definitely made Arc powerful, haunting, and was a beautiful way to be able to really hear Ed's voice with the acoustics at the Ryman.. wow...

    For those that haven't heard this version, it's amazing. I'm sure someone with more technical knowledge could describe what he was actually doing better than I, but I'll give it a shot. He would sing it, wait a few seconds, what he already sang would start to replay, then he would join in on signing it again but with like a 1 second delay. Then the song with him singing twice would start to replay, he would pause, and join in on it again. By the end, a very powerful, beautiful, "aaahhh" that absolutely filled my soul. . Then, he stands up and slowly walks off the stage with a hand in the air saying "thank you" to the crowd, the curtain closing, and the song continuing to play. Chills...
  • I would love to hear what others experienced this summer in terms of Arc. Did he do the same thing I described below at other shows too?
  • bump
  • smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    Arc was great at Massey Hall

    Both nights !!
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  • PJMEMamaPJMEMama Posts: 99
    When I heard him sing ARC last summer in Boston, I literally found myself with my mouth hanging open in wonder. I think it is the most beautiful piece of music I've ever heard.
  • loadedgunloadedgun Indiana Posts: 1,390
    I guess I'll be the only negative commenter on here, and bare with me if I'm wrong. I have been there twice while he did it Live, and was not overly impressed as most people seem to be.

    I think his true vocals are extrordinaire on ARC, but to me it seems like part of it is recorded (?) I think a previous poster mentioned how it is re-playing what he already sang, which I think is cool, but being there I felt as though he was singing along with a pre-recorded version, just adding in his vocals when he wanted to. I truly hope this isn't the case, but the overall presentation of this song just rubbed me the wrong way, and I'm surprised that I'm the only one feeling this way. It didn't seem like a true live song to me, and it left a bad taste with me for the rest of the shows (even though it was at the end, I still felt ripped off.) Maybe I am completely mistaken with the way this song is performed LIVE, but I just wasn't feeling it.

    The rest of his songs were obviously LIVE at the moment, and I could clearly tell. But this one seemed like the only one that wasn't truly the LIVE music yelling out to me.

    I'm sure I will get a lot of disagreements for this, which I expect. But I would honestly not hear ARC at all at an EV show. Just my 2 cents.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    arc live must be awesome!!!!!!!
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    loadedgun wrote:
    I guess I'll be the only negative commenter on here, and bare with me if I'm wrong. I have been there twice while he did it Live, and was not overly impressed as most people seem to be.

    I think his true vocals are extrordinaire on ARC, but to me it seems like part of it is recorded (?) I think a previous poster mentioned how it is re-playing what he already sang, which I think is cool, but being there I felt as though he was singing along with a pre-recorded version, just adding in his vocals when he wanted to. I truly hope this isn't the case, but the overall presentation of this song just rubbed me the wrong way, and I'm surprised that I'm the only one feeling this way. It didn't seem like a true live song to me, and it left a bad taste with me for the rest of the shows (even though it was at the end, I still felt ripped off.) Maybe I am completely mistaken with the way this song is performed LIVE, but I just wasn't feeling it.

    The rest of his songs were obviously LIVE at the moment, and I could clearly tell. But this one seemed like the only one that wasn't truly the LIVE music yelling out to me.

    I'm sure I will get a lot of disagreements for this, which I expect. But I would honestly not hear ARC at all at an EV show. Just my 2 cents.

    Dude. It's loops. He records the baseline track LIVE right in front of you. Then he adds another track, with the first track looped in the background. Then he adds a third track, harmonzied with the first and second. Then a fourth, with the first, second, third playing in the background. Etc Etc Etc.

    It isn't pre-recorded. It's recorded live right in front of you. That's the whole point.

    Did you not watch Liam Finn play? He'd start with, say, a drum track. Record it and loop it behind him, then add a bass part, and add that to the mix. Then play guitar over the top of that.

    Ed's doing the EXACT SAME THING. Except the only instrument he uses is his voice.

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  • ARC from Baltimore one was weird / interesting, he just kinda gave up on it..... Both Philly Arcs were good.... PM me
  • loadedgunloadedgun Indiana Posts: 1,390
    loadedgun wrote:
    I guess I'll be the only negative commenter on here, and bare with me if I'm wrong. I have been there twice while he did it Live, and was not overly impressed as most people seem to be.

    I think his true vocals are extrordinaire on ARC, but to me it seems like part of it is recorded (?) I think a previous poster mentioned how it is re-playing what he already sang, which I think is cool, but being there I felt as though he was singing along with a pre-recorded version, just adding in his vocals when he wanted to. I truly hope this isn't the case, but the overall presentation of this song just rubbed me the wrong way, and I'm surprised that I'm the only one feeling this way. It didn't seem like a true live song to me, and it left a bad taste with me for the rest of the shows (even though it was at the end, I still felt ripped off.) Maybe I am completely mistaken with the way this song is performed LIVE, but I just wasn't feeling it.

    The rest of his songs were obviously LIVE at the moment, and I could clearly tell. But this one seemed like the only one that wasn't truly the LIVE music yelling out to me.

    I'm sure I will get a lot of disagreements for this, which I expect. But I would honestly not hear ARC at all at an EV show. Just my 2 cents.

    Dude. It's loops. He records the baseline track LIVE right in front of you. Then he adds another track, with the first track looped in the background. Then he adds a third track, harmonzied with the first and second. Then a fourth, with the first, second, third playing in the background. Etc Etc Etc.

    It isn't pre-recorded. It's recorded live right in front of you. That's the whole point.

    Did you not watch Liam Finn play? He'd start with, say, a drum track. Record it and loop it behind him, then add a bass part, and add that to the mix. Then play guitar over the top of that.

    Ed's doing the EXACT SAME THING. Except the only instrument he uses is his voice.

    Sometimes, this place amazes me.

    Thanks, thats the explanation I was looking for. Makes more sense to me now. I'm not that up to par with the technology involved in music now, so I had no idea this was being done. I guess you just educated me.

    That being said, I still don't like it as much as everyone else is praising it. This makes me feel better about the song, but I'm not totally sold on it. To each his own I guess.
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