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Collective Soul - December and LBC comparison.

Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
edited June 2009 in The Porch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9beMVCG ... annel_page

3:25 mark.. LBC's beginning sounds pretty much like it.

Nothing big.. I was just listening to Collective Soul.. and noticed the sound similarity.
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  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    Why would anyone listen to Collective Soul? You might as well pull out your Gin Blossoms album while you're at it. :lol:
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    Why would anyone listen to Collective Soul? You might as well pull out your Gin Blossoms album while you're at it. :lol:
    I only like two songs. December, and Shine.
    2008 - MSG 6/24-6/25
    2010 - Newark 5/18 MSG 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 9/3-9/4
    2012 - MIA Festival 9/2
    2013 - Wrigley Field 7/19 Brooklyn 10/18-10/19 Philly 10/22
    2015 - Colbert show - 9/23 Global Citizens Festival 9/26
    2016 - Philly 4/28-4/29 MSG 5/1-5/2



  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    Jeremys Spoken wrote:
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    Why would anyone listen to Collective Soul? You might as well pull out your Gin Blossoms album while you're at it. :lol:
    I only like two songs. December, and Shine.

    I'm just teasing. Both of those songs annoy the shit out of me. They might be the first band responsible for stealing Eddie's "drawl" and using it in a totally annoying way. (This was before the days of Creed.)
  • lukinvedderlukinvedder Posts: 203
    i love december, but i dont see the comparison?
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  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    lukinvedder wrote:
    i love december, but i dont see the comparison?
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    eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    Jeremys Spoken wrote:
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    Why would anyone listen to Collective Soul? You might as well pull out your Gin Blossoms album while you're at it. :lol:
    I only like two songs. December, and Shine.

    I'm just teasing. Both of those songs annoy the shit out of me. They might be the first band responsible for stealing Eddie's "drawl" and using it in a totally annoying way. (This was before the days of Creed.)

    They were a pretty good live band back in the day. All of their stuff had a harder edge to it live than on record, for some reason. At one point, about 95ish, they were covering "Crazy Train" regularly -- and it didn't seem all that out of place.

    Let's see the Gin Blossoms pull THAT off. ;)
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    GREAT SONG...
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,415
    slightofjeff wrote:
    They were a pretty good live band back in the day. All of their stuff had a harder edge to it live than on record, for some reason. At one point, about 95ish, they were covering "Crazy Train" regularly -- and it didn't seem all that out of place.

    Let's see the Gin Blossoms pull THAT off. ;)

    Yeah, they're original guitarist could rip. The solo in Shine is pretty awesome. I don't remember them ever bein lumped in with the Candleboxes and Bush's of the world til more recently.
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    I dont hear it at all. Isnt that just light guitar picking or something? The sound is the same, but the notes are not the same.

    Its like saying wishlist and LBC sound the same.
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,574
    The World I Know was Collective Soul's best song. (and about the only one I know)
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    don't really hear the comparison.

    Collective soul is a great live band though. They actually are better live than on albums. Ed Roland's voice sounds better live as it seems to be too overproduced in the studio on some of the songs.

    Collective souls hits include:
    Shine
    December
    The world I know
    Precious Decleration
    Listen
    blame
    Heavy
    run
    she said
    no more no less
    why part 2

    Get their greatest hits cd if you want to check them out just saying. But they are a great live band. Haven't seen them since Ross left though.
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  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    So you guys don't hear starting at 3:25 the first like minute of LBC? Wow..
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  • iVEDDERiVEDDER Posts: 71
    Jeremys Spoken wrote: »
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    Why would anyone listen to Collective Soul? You might as well pull out your Gin Blossoms album while you're at it. :lol:
    I only like two songs. December, and Shine.

    "Simple" is amazing ! There are many others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOpxZcq1qGg
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Evacuation Rules wrote: »
    Why would anyone listen to Collective Soul? You might as well pull out your Gin Blossoms album while you're at it. :lol:

    Collective soul is a great band from the 90's. Top 5 for me.
    1)Pearl Jam
    2)AIC
    3)STP
    4)Collective Soul
    5)Nirvana
  • FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    That link is junk now - states that YouTube account has been terminated.
    Oh please let it rain today.
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  • iVEDDERiVEDDER Posts: 71
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    Evacuation Rules wrote: »
    Why would anyone listen to Collective Soul? You might as well pull out your Gin Blossoms album while you're at it. :lol:

    Collective soul is a great band from the 90's. Top 5 for me.
    1)Pearl Jam
    2)AIC
    3)STP
    4)Collective Soul
    5)Nirvana

    I would swap STP with Mother Love Bone and put STP at 6. The rest is pefect.
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  • RobbyD462RobbyD462 Victoria BC Posts: 4,806
    I like the first two CS albums!
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    -Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
    -Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
    -Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
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  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,535
    RobbyD462 wrote: »
    I like the first two CS albums!

    I caught a Collective Soul concert on AXS-TV recently. It was from 2012 and they played Dosage in its entirety (well, except for the one track that was sung by the guitarist who left the band). I bought their first two albums in the 90's and didn't really follow them after that. I found a copy of Dosage on CD for 95 cents at one of my local record stores, and I'm really digging it so far. Apparently they worked really hard on this album because the previous one didn't do so well, and I think it really shows in the production.
  • SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,167
    edited February 2015
    Disagree. Love Collective Soul though, and December was one of my favourite songs for a long time.

    Oh. This thread is from 2009. Why are we talking about this again now??
    Post edited by Suziemay on
  • smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    I don't hear the similarities mate
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,206
    Don't hear it either. Love that CS record though!
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  • RobbyD462RobbyD462 Victoria BC Posts: 4,806
    edited February 2015
    They should press the first two to vinyl I'd buy that for a dollar!
    -Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/21/9 -Vancouver,B.C-Rogers Arena-12/4/13 -Vancouver,BC-Rogers Arena-5/6/24
    -Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
    -Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
    -Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
    -Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12 -Vancouver,BC-Rogers Arena-5/4/24

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,325
    I loved that band back in the day. before I started disliking watered down radio grunge. but still, they wrote some good hooks.
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  • NamiNami Newfoundland Posts: 5,995
    solid album start to finish... imo.

    dont see the comparison OP

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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,192
    I used to listen to their second record....
    my band even covered one of their songs...
    I just remember that they stole the riff for "shine down" from the pumpkins "drown"

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  • rtwilli4rtwilli4 Posts: 261
    I remember when Blender came out. I had just gotten my license, bought my first car, and was a bit too young to fully appreciate Binaural. I think I spent a few months listening to some pretty terrible music until the Pearl Jam 2000 bootlegs brought me back home.

    That band did put out a lot of radio friendly music though and a few of their records were great.
  • iVEDDERiVEDDER Posts: 71
    rtwilli4 wrote: »
    I remember when Blender came out. I had just gotten my license, bought my first car, and was a bit too young to fully appreciate Binaural. I think I spent a few months listening to some pretty terrible music until the Pearl Jam 2000 bootlegs brought me back home.

    That band did put out a lot of radio friendly music though and a few of their records were great.

    Man listen to this great song from the album Dosage (at full blast!):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO7B4c8Rv7Y
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  • iVEDDERiVEDDER Posts: 71
    edited February 2015
    "You Speak My Language" is from the Blender album, I find it a great pump up song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6bK8-14nHc
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,206

    Man listen to this great song from the album Dosage (at full blast!):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO7B4c8Rv7Y[/quote]

    I love Dosage. Great hidden track at the end of the record.
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  • High Fidelity 2000High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,435
    Not much of a similarity other than some quiet semi muted guitar.

    Collective Soul's 2nd album (self titled) is really a great album from the 90s. Almost every song is good. They definitely sound good live, the problem that makes their stuff sound kinda dated at this point is that their albums are really kinda over-produced. Fake sounding, too-crisp instruments, etc. Definitely sound better live, though their stage presence is weak.

    I even have the guitar tab book for the self titled album! That's how much I used to like it! That and the Foo Fighters first album pretty much define 1995 to me!

    And for the record I like the Spin Doctors (great jam band with a shitty overplayed hit and a singer who is not great and obviously the weakest link of an otherwise talented group of players) AND the Gin Blossoms (New Miserable Experience, another classic 90s album, but another extremely weak stage-presence band) too, so nuts to you all.
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