Chelsea Clinton

NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
edited June 2009 in A Moving Train
Where was all this sensitivity when Chelsea Clinton was getting ripped on a daily basis, by just about every talk show host and comedian....across the country? And a lot of republicans gleefully took part in the ripping of Chelsea. Talk show hostsa like Rush Limbaugh and others were ripping a very young 12...13...14 year old Chelsea, on regular basis.

I don't recall Republican being so sensitive and outraged when Chelsea was the butt of so many jokes. In fact, Republicans took great joy in the jokes and rips

Truth is, a lot of the jokes were quite mean-spirited and nasty. Yet, Americans some how survived (as did Chelsea) and managed to make it through eight years of the Clinton administration without a single protest, feigned outburst of feigned outrage.

So why is there a double-standard, here?

Why was it open season on Chelsea, but Palin's teenage daughter (who Sarah paraded out in front of the media, both physically and in her verbal speeches) suddenly becomes a symbol for their phoney "moral stances"?
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  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Because they are a bunch of wankers?
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,500
    C'mon, plenty of people were outraged at some of the Chelsea jokes...

    But I think both times it was just silly.
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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    It's all just more bullshit and distractions from the real issues. We're being looted everyday by the military-industrial compled and the banks, and all both "sides" of the media cares to cover is bullshit like this. The only thing worse than Hollywood is when Washington becomes Hollywood, with people's obsessions over our political figure's personal lives.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    It's all just more bullshit and distractions from the real issues. We're being looted everyday by the military-industrial compled and the banks, and all both "sides" of the media cares to cover is bullshit like this. The only thing worse than Hollywood is when Washington becomes Hollywood, with people's obsessions over our political figure's personal lives.

    Correct.
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    It's all just more bullshit and distractions from the real issues. We're being looted everyday by the military-industrial compled and the banks, and all both "sides" of the media cares to cover is bullshit like this. The only thing worse than Hollywood is when Washington becomes Hollywood, with people's obsessions over our political figure's personal lives.

    Perfect example = Our President.

    He seems more like a movie star than a President sometimes...it's like the media feels they NEED to kiss his ass because he has made history. The media has glorified him. I wouldn't be suprised if someday soon they start a reality TV show about the Obama's :roll:
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    dcfaithful wrote:
    It's all just more bullshit and distractions from the real issues. We're being looted everyday by the military-industrial compled and the banks, and all both "sides" of the media cares to cover is bullshit like this. The only thing worse than Hollywood is when Washington becomes Hollywood, with people's obsessions over our political figure's personal lives.

    Perfect example = Our President.

    He seems more like a movie star than a President sometimes...it's like the media feels they NEED to kiss his ass because he has made history. The media has glorified him. I wouldn't be suprised if someday soon they start a reality TV show about the Obama's :roll:
    Kinda like all Presidents in the modern era....although didn't W spend like 75 of his first 100 days on vacation?
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    RW81233 wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    It's all just more bullshit and distractions from the real issues. We're being looted everyday by the military-industrial compled and the banks, and all both "sides" of the media cares to cover is bullshit like this. The only thing worse than Hollywood is when Washington becomes Hollywood, with people's obsessions over our political figure's personal lives.

    Perfect example = Our President.

    He seems more like a movie star than a President sometimes...it's like the media feels they NEED to kiss his ass because he has made history. The media has glorified him. I wouldn't be suprised if someday soon they start a reality TV show about the Obama's :roll:
    Kinda like all Presidents in the modern era....although didn't W spend like 75 of his first 100 days on vacation?

    More like well over 1,000 TOTAL days of his term on vacation
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    What about poor Amy Carter? Granted, she was real funny looking kid (and probably knew it)... and they were brutal to her.
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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Give these guys 1,461 days of vacation as far as I'm concerned (3 years @ 365, 1 year @ 366). The more they actually do, the more we get fucked. If we put all of Congress, and all of the White House on vacation at a 4-star resort somewhere for their entire tenure, we'd all be better off-- paying less taxes and involved in less bullshit around the world.
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Give these guys 1,461 days of vacation as far as I'm concerned (3 years @ 365, 1 year @ 366). The more they actually do, the more we get fucked. If we put all of Congress, and all of the White House on vacation at a 4-star resort somewhere for their entire tenure, we'd all be better off-- paying less taxes and involved in less bullshit around the world.
    as always we agree 50%...I don't mind taxes I just don't like that they go to rich people.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    dcfaithful wrote:
    It's all just more bullshit and distractions from the real issues. We're being looted everyday by the military-industrial compled and the banks, and all both "sides" of the media cares to cover is bullshit like this. The only thing worse than Hollywood is when Washington becomes Hollywood, with people's obsessions over our political figure's personal lives.

    Perfect example = Our President.

    He seems more like a movie star than a President sometimes...it's like the media feels they NEED to kiss his ass because he has made history. The media has glorified him. I wouldn't be suprised if someday soon they start a reality TV show about the Obama's :roll:

    Keep in mind the press WILL trust me turn on him in time for whatever reason and when that time comes it won't be pretty. I remember when he was President elect comedians were wondering if was appropriate to make fun of the first African American President. I was like hell yeah he's in the highest position in the land as far as I'm concerned he's fair game.

    I ;ove the cartoons of Obama that feature his large and wide ears. :) However leave the minors alone.

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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    NMyTree wrote:
    I don't recall Republican being so sensitive and outraged when Chelsea was the butt of so many jokes. In fact, Republicans took great joy in the jokes and rips

    i love how these republicans all campaign on family values but then are caught having affairs or dialing up prostitutes ... like how phony can one be ...
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    RW81233 wrote:
    Give these guys 1,461 days of vacation as far as I'm concerned (3 years @ 365, 1 year @ 366). The more they actually do, the more we get fucked. If we put all of Congress, and all of the White House on vacation at a 4-star resort somewhere for their entire tenure, we'd all be better off-- paying less taxes and involved in less bullshit around the world.
    as always we agree 50%...I don't mind taxes I just don't like that they go to rich people.

    I don't like how they just never go to where they are supposed to go. That's why I'm against any new forms (and many of the existing forms) of taxation. Just by giving the government more tax revenue does not mean they aren't going to spend it like the crackhead under the interstate overpass.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    I certainly wouldn't stand next to either Amy Carter or Chelsea Clinton in cloudy weather...as a devil's advocate, I would say that none of the Carter/Clinton were sexual in nature. :twisted:
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Put me down in the "Chelsea is hot now" column
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Sarah Palin in her role as MOM/CANDIDATE continues to demonstrate that she has little regard for her daughter's public imagine as she now allows so called Christian Family Value demonstrators to whore out her daughter's reputation for her own political gain. Letterman was wrong because he was not specific.

    Sarah has taken this to a whole new level. Sarah Palin now claims her daughter was a victim of statutory rape, if so, Why The F--- was she parading her so called rapist around the United States as her future husband!!! If Sarah Palin truly stands by the fact that her daughter was raped, then she's one cold hearted bitch. Where's Daddy? Aren't Daddy's suppose to protect their little girls instead of being buddy, buddy with the man he knows raped his little girl? There's nothing Christian or close to any family values for these people, its all about politics. They should be charged as unfit parents to force your daughter to be with her rapist just to further your own political care
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  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    dcfaithful wrote:
    I wouldn't be suprised if someday soon they start a reality TV show about the Obama's :roll:
    good one there...The problem I see with all of this is that people really thrive on the down right grunge. It's really a shame to watch common courtesy go out the drain and nobody is right when concerning actions of blasphemy. What is really important to realize is that most of their "garbage" talk is propaganda and used to keep the population obliviated. In a sense people are pack oriented souls who, in our sophistication want to be part of current events. I wonder sometimes if somehow as HUmans have become more "civilised" if our rite for survival (competition-level) has somehow mutated. I mean when you turn on a TV and aspire to be an American idol, what is the true value being taught to people? It seems to me that people need to spend more time tending their own gardens as opposed to taking everyone else into account.

    What I was trying to say before I went off on my tangent is that the media is only allowing you to hear what they want to hear and all of the dialogue you hear is staged somehow. At the end of the day, somehow, these people who enter the political regime do have sincere intent to serve their community and I wonder how many of us are really willing to go under such scrutiny.

    I say this because even when a common citizen decides to serve on even a local committe, such as a county board of supervisor, that person becomes an item of public document...your entire background is checked and then when the committees meet, the minutes are aired on public television as well.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Even if the OP is true - and I don't think you can say that wholescale Republicans were making nasty comments and jokes about Chelsea on a daily basis - whatever happened to taking the high road?

    Just because someone else did something that's bad, doesn't give justification to you to do it.

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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Victimization has become quite popular lately, and everyone appears to get sucked in rather than refusing to bow down to that crap.
    Palin cries victim yet again? Why can't we just simply ignore it? Aren't we smarter?
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    NMyTree wrote:
    Where was all this sensitivity when Chelsea Clinton was getting ripped on a daily basis, by just about every talk show host and comedian....across the country? And a lot of republicans gleefully took part in the ripping of Chelsea. Talk show hostsa like Rush Limbaugh and others were ripping a very young 12...13...14 year old Chelsea, on regular basis.

    I don't remember this happening. The one thing I do remember is Mike Myers making a joke on "Wayne's World" on Saturday Night Live ... immediately feeling bad about it, and publicly apologizing.

    I agree that the Palins are making a mountain out of a molehill here. I just don't remember this huge Republican smear campaign against Chelsea Clinton that you seem to remember.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Even if the OP is true - and I don't think you can say that wholescale Republicans were making nasty comments and jokes about Chelsea on a daily basis - whatever happened to taking the high road?

    Just because someone else did something that's bad, doesn't give justification to you to do it.

    "If you hate something, don't you do it too" - PJ

    I don't think people are saying it was wrong of people to make those jokes about Chelsea. They're saying it was in poor taste, just like Dave's joke. What they are pointing out is the hypocrisy... that when it was republicans making jokes about Chelsea, nobody cared. No conservative talking heads were outraged at what a low blow it was. But when it's a comedian making a random joke about their conservative darling, suddenly it's a horrible horrible thing to say and Dave should be fire. That is a double standard. It's ok when our people do it about your people, but it's wrong when your people do it about ours.

    In that sense, your quote is dead on... the republicans are here hating on something that they have done themselves and thought nothing of.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    So ALL Republicans were laughing at the jokes about Chelsea and ALL are upset about the Palin joke?

    Point being that it might not be hypocrisy if it's not the SAME ones laughing and getting upset.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    So ALL Republicans were laughing at the jokes about Chelsea and ALL are upset about the Palin joke?

    Point being that it might not be hypocrisy if it's not the SAME ones laughing and getting upset.

    Seeing as how I don't have my census polls handy, I don't know. But I think you're being a bit disingenuous. It's a fair inference to see how the right wing talking heads generally responded then and now. Then: making fun of the looks of a 13 year old girl that was the child of a democrat was not newsworthy and certainly did not draw criticism from the right. Now: making a joke about a 16 year old girl that's the child of a republican is newsworthy and the source of protests and calls for firing. That's hypocrisy. Maybe not on an individual level, but it is hypocrisy on the level of the movement and its claims with respect to being the party of values.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Seeing as how I don't have my census polls handy, I don't know. But I think you're being a bit disingenuous. It's a fair inference to see how the right wing talking heads generally responded then and now. Then: making fun of the looks of a 13 year old girl that was the child of a democrat was not newsworthy and certainly did not draw criticism from the right. Now: making a joke about a 16 year old girl that's the child of a republican is newsworthy and the source of protests and calls for firing. That's hypocrisy. Maybe not on an individual level, but it is hypocrisy on the level of the movement and its claims with respect to being the party of values.

    hey ... the GOP is the home of family values ... it's the foundation of their entire platform ... ;)
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    NMyTree wrote:
    It's all just more bullshit and distractions from the real issues. We're being looted everyday by the military-industrial compled and the banks, and all both "sides" of the media cares to cover is bullshit like this. The only thing worse than Hollywood is when Washington becomes Hollywood, with people's obsessions over our political figure's personal lives.

    Correct.
    :?
    I'm confused.
    You agree that this is all bullshit, and both 'sides' are covering this as a distraction from real issues...
    Yet you make a thread framing it as a partisan issue, which you KNOW will contribute to further bickering about a pointless topic already covered in three threads on the train? Would we be correct in saying you're part of the problem then?
    Seriously, WHY do so many americans feel such an overwhelming urge to define themselves by party affiliation? It boggles the mind. The republicans do this, the dems do that wah wah wah....Vinny's quote gets to the heart of this issue....perpetuating the rep vs dem angle makes things worse.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    :?
    I'm confused....
    Seriously, WHY do so many americans feel such an overwhelming urge to define themselves by party affiliation? It boggles the mind. The republicans do this, the dems do that wah wah wah....Vinny's quote gets to the heart of this issue....perpetuating the rep vs dem angle makes things worse.
    As long as people insist on "taking sides", there will never be a solution to anything.
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