EV Shows - Audience behavior at each venue - comparison

CJMST3K

Has anyone been to all nights, or a number of nights to be able to compare apples-to-apples? I'm wonder if the Baltimore 1 crowd was much worse than the other crowds, or about the same. B1 is the only show I've seen this tour, so I can't tell, but it seemed about the same as DC2 from the last tour, but I think the shouting is what made Ed abandon Arc, which was a really sad thing to see happen.

Can anyone compare?

Yefa

I went to the first 5 shows of this leg. I thought the most respectful crowd was probably Albany 1, followed by either Albany 2 or Philly 1. Philly 2 was pretty bad for yellers I thought...at least where I was (Orchestra row . I was thrilled to get a 3rd row ticket for Baltimore 1 off Ticketmaster and loved the show. There was an obnoxious jerk in row 2 who kept yelling out the score of the NBA Finals game. If we cared to know what the score was every moment, we would have stayed home and watched the damn game! There was another one in row 4 who kept yelling to Ed in a loud voice. Despite these two fools I still thought the show was tremendous. I hope Ed does another leg of solo shows at some point (during PJ down time) as I enjoyed the ones I show both last August and this month.

PureandEasy

I was quite impressed with the Philly crowd on night one

U R A Crazy Breed

Albany 1 was so mellow...you could hear a fart from the noose bleeds...best Ev solo crowd out of the 4 solo shows i have been to.

TheRooster

I went to 5 shows on the first East Coast solo tour and 2 this time. Philly 2 was aweful in terms of crowd yelling it really annoyed me out my now 7 total Eddie solo shows that was the worst for crowd yelling out, what especially was bad about the Philly 2 one was on parts where Eddie was playing kind of lower mellow acoustic guitar parts with no vocals people would yell over that which I found disrespectful and just obnoxious but of course Eddie was still awesome. Someone in a previous comment on this thread said DC2 was bad I didn't really find that to be the case but I had great seats so Eddie might have drowned out the fans.

hopethatuchoke

Does it really matter? Who gives a damn.

jimed14

hopethatuchoke wrote:

Does it really matter? Who gives a damn.

obviously, the OP ... and others posting.

I think when stories like "some guy in the crowd yelled 'play Gone!!' and then, Ed played it ... " surface, it only encourages people to yell more.

There are always going to be people who can't just enjoy the show an always feel a new to be PART of the show.

leenec

TheRooster wrote:

I went to 5 shows on the first East Coast solo tour and 2 this time. Philly 2 was aweful in terms of crowd yelling it really annoyed me out my now 7 total Eddie solo shows that was the worst for crowd yelling out, what especially was bad about the Philly 2 one was on parts where Eddie was playing kind of lower mellow acoustic guitar parts with no vocals people would yell over that which I found disrespectful and just obnoxious but of course Eddie was still awesome. Someone in a previous comment on this thread said DC2 was bad I didn't really find that to be the case but I had great seats so Eddie might have drowned out the fans.

Philly 2= TERRIBLE- the worst fans that night...who pays all that money and just talkes and yells the whole time?!?!?

MayDay10

DCI was the worst for me.

Philly II was in the middle.

then Philly I as the best.

However, Philly I he really sped through his set and there wasnt much yellin' time. Also the Tower is much, much more cavernous. Warner was so intimate you could hear anything when it was quiet,

CP13458

I'm going to flip this on its head if you dont mind. I'm curious if anyone thinks that Pearl Jam fans are more "holier than thou" than ever. I have been an avid fan since the beginning and ten club member since 95. Just like most of you I've travelled, seen a bunch of shows, have stories, met the band, etc. I completely udnerstand people want to enjoy the show and everything, but dont you think its ridiculous how PJ fans post about rules for an Eddie show? I mean let's be honest, while I know we all pride ourselves in our taste in music and how we can separate the good stuff from the crap (almost immediately), when did everyone become so damn snobby?

I think Eddie is just as bad with it this year. Before he was polite about it, but now he's just flat out rude about it. In Baltimore he basically said, if you speak you're a drunk asshole. Really Eddie? Remember when you were in your 20s (like many of the 'shouters') and drunk for every public appearance you made?

And also that people should have respect for the place they are in and what the music played there means. Weren't you the one who won a grammy and said it didn't mean anything as part of your acceptance speech?

All I'm saying is that if you are going to control how people are behaving at your show, then you should A) Not open the show up to the public (non 10 club) who might know you as a rebellious-type rocker who plays rock music -- contrary to popular belief most of these people aren't there for an opera, and Not make people pay hard earned money to come see YOU.

In closing, let me say this I thoroughly enjoyed the shows I attended. To me however, it did not seem like Eddie enjoyed much of them at all (which was clearly visible) and I thought the "Pearl Jam Fans" shushing people was just as annoying as the yellers. Let us not forget about the correlation between rock and roll/punk/alternative and non-conformity. Because after awhile it seemed as if dont get Eddie mad or he'll cut the show short or not play something rare, etc., etc.

Next time just charge $1000 a ticket and price out all the yellers for people who will be quiet the whole time. Now that's rock and roll!! </end vent>

MayDay10

there is a big difference between being boisterous and loud.... and being a loudmouth asshole who needs to draw attention to themself.

Its not the time or place to yell shit when Eddie is talking. It distracts the performer, and ruins the show for a radius of people who are trying to enjoy it. All because mommy didnt pay enough attention years ago.

Eddie was talking (not even about politics) in Philly and someone yelled for him to shut the fuck up and play some music.... what kind of shit is that? Why is this person there? Did they think people around him would agree?

nukeboot

CP13458 wrote:

I'm going to flip this on its head if you dont mind. I'm curious if anyone thinks that Pearl Jam fans are more "holier than thou" than ever.

Folks need to adjust to different venues and different shows. And it helps to have a little awareness
of how the people around you are behaving.

One of my favorite rants on the subject ever, I give you Jeff Tweedy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos

jimed14

nukeboot wrote:

CP13458 wrote:

I'm going to flip this on its head if you dont mind. I'm curious if anyone thinks that Pearl Jam fans are more "holier than thou" than ever.

Folks need to adjust to different venues and different shows. And it helps to have a little awareness
of how the people around you are behaving.

One of my favorite rants on the subject ever, I give you Jeff Tweedy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos

I forgot about that Tweedy clip ... great stuff ...

If Ed was really pissed about it ... he could just quickly address the crowd at the beginning of the show ... like he did when they did the Mansfield acoustic set.

Ed's address to the Berkeley 1 shouters last year ... "Tom Waits once told me silence is like a blank sheet of paper, when you want quiet you don't want to be looking at a page with scribbles all over it."

JM55546

From worst to best, Boston 1 --> Boston 2 --> Albany 1

Boston 1 was so bad it was embarrassing, but was way better the 2nd night. Albany 1 was like being at a play, or like the Neil Young at Massey Hall 1971 show that was recently released on CD. Everyone clapping /yelling at the right times, but during the songs was damn quiet.

Jeanwah

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Albany 1 was so mellow...you could hear a fart from the noose bleeds...best Ev solo crowd out of the 4 solo shows i have been to.

I actually thought the crowd at Albany 1 was half-asleep, they were so quiet. It was unusual.

pjbugs007

Jeanwah wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Albany 1 was so mellow...you could hear a fart from the noose bleeds...best Ev solo crowd out of the 4 solo shows i have been to.

I actually thought the crowd at Albany 1 was half-asleep, they were so quiet. It was unusual.

and Jeanwah you thought i was gonna be some drunkard..yelling and screamin shit...

Jeanwah

pjbugs007 wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Albany 1 was so mellow...you could hear a fart from the noose bleeds...best Ev solo crowd out of the 4 solo shows i have been to.

I actually thought the crowd at Albany 1 was half-asleep, they were so quiet. It was unusual.

and Jeanwah you thought i was gonna be some drunkard..yelling and screamin shit...

I'm sure you were farting though.
And we all thought you were going to be doing that...

pjbugs007

was in the 3rd row n did say a peep or fart!

cbh1011

I respect the one post here that essentially was telling everyone to mellow out... but from my view, it's very discourteous to others to be yelling out your favorite song.... repeatedly. I was in Santa Barbara for Ed's show, seated in the balcony... great venue, intimate, phenomenal show. Some drunk guy three seats down from me, probably around 24, kept yelling out "Soon Forget". Now, that's my daughter's favorite PJ song, and I'd love to hear it too. I can see yelling it one time. Fact is, however, EV isn't going to hear from the balcony no matter how great the auditorium is. However, drunk guy yells it OVER AND OVER. Everyone around him is annoyed. Doesn't ruin the show, but he makes a very strong attempt to do so.

My suggestion, bring a sign. Show it a few times hoping to hear your fave, and be done with it. The Boss occassionaly will agree, ask for the sign to be passed up to the stage, and honors the request. I haven't been to enough EV solo shows to know how he handles it. But the fact remains that yelling out during an intimate performance for a specific song, or a random variety of songs for that matter, is really annoying to those around you.

And if you're curious or care what others think at all... we think you're an asshole. We're enjoying the show, want EV to enjoy and give as much passion to his performance, to the venue, to the aura we're experiencing and you are essentially saying "I'm more important than anything else going on here.. I need to be heard".

And I say bullshit.

Let EV play what's in his heart... what he feels moved to share with all of us.

It's not being pompous, or snobby, or anti-rebellious. It's about experiencing the whole night in the presence of greatness, and sharing what will be an incredibly memorable night with thousands of your newest friends.

Shut the fuck up and enjoy the show.

See you at the Ryman Ed.
Can't wait.

Guaranteed, You are my man of the hour, and I'm gonna do my part to enjoy whatever you feel is in your heart to play for each of us.

My $.02.

Blake
cbh1011

mattyk72

Guess it depends on where you sit. I was at Albany N1 and I have to disagree with those that say it was mellow, I wouldn't say it was crazy but it definitely was not without some loud mouths. I was in the center section on the floor, probably about 20 rows back and there were a few people around me yelling "I love you Eddie" or yelling out song requests.

That said I've been to a few Dave & Tim shows and those shows definitely had more people yelling crap out. So all in all Albany N1 was generally pretty well behaved.

JOEJOEJOE

There is a huge difference between being snobby, and expecting appropriate behavior at a quiet acoustic gig.

Too bad that some of the fans are unable to adjust their behavior!