CIA chief believes Cheney almost wants US attacked

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swear by sin Austin TX Posts: 73
edited June 2009 in A Moving Train
Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:07pm EDT
WASHINGTON, June 14 (Reuters) - CIA director Leon Panetta says it's almost as if former vice president Dick Cheney would like to see another attack on the United States to prove he is right in criticizing President Barack Obama for abandoning the "harsh interrogation" of terrorism suspects.

"I think he smells some blood in the water on the national security issue," Panetta said in an interview published in The New Yorker magazine's June 22 issue.

"It's almost, a little bit, gallows politics. When you read behind it, it's almost as if he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point."

Cheney, who was a key advocate in the Bush administration of controversial interrogation methods such as waterboarding, has become as a leading Republican critic of Obama's ban on harsh interrogations and his plan to shut the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

In a blistering May 21 speech, Cheney said Obama's reversal of Bush-era policies were "unwise in the extreme" that would make the American people less safe.

Panetta called Cheney's actions "dangerous politics."

He told The New Yorker he had favored the creation of an independent truth commission to look into the detainee polices of former President George W. Bush. But the idea died in April when Obama decided such a panel could be seen as politically vindictive. (Reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Alan Elsner)






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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    NOTHING surprises me about Cheney.

    The man has a summer home on Mount Misery in eastern Maryland not far from Rumsfeld. BTW it was the former place where slaves were taken to be punished for being disobedient, plotting to escape or captured. Many were beaten and faced far more harsh conditions than on the southern plantations.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    what an asshole ... and the guy walks around free today ... sickening
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    g under p wrote:
    NOTHING surprises me about Cheney.

    The man has a summer home on Mount Misery in eastern Maryland not far from Rumsfeld. BTW it was the former place where slaves were taken to be punished for being disobedient, plotting to escape or captured. Many were beaten and faced far more harsh conditions than on the southern plantations.

    Peace


    So nobody should ever live there again?
  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    So if it happens then Cheney would have two under his belt. Not a bad track record ladies and gents.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • Penguin1203
    Penguin1203 Posts: 24
    just dont give him a gun, you never know who hes going to shoot next.
    so he wants thousands or even millions killed just to show that Obama isnt the best president? :roll:
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    g under p wrote:
    NOTHING surprises me about Cheney.

    The man has a summer home on Mount Misery in eastern Maryland not far from Rumsfeld. BTW it was the former place where slaves were taken to be punished for being disobedient, plotting to escape or captured. Many were beaten and faced far more harsh conditions than on the southern plantations.

    Peace
    So what.. I lived on a civil war battle ground. The battle of Secessionville. Does that make me a racist or a bad person?

    I don't really care for Cheney either, but where he lives???? What does that have to do with anything ??
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Dick Cheney should be tarred and feathered.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    NOTHING surprises me about Cheney.

    The man has a summer home on Mount Misery in eastern Maryland not far from Rumsfeld. BTW it was the former place where slaves were taken to be punished for being disobedient, plotting to escape or captured. Many were beaten and faced far more harsh conditions than on the southern plantations.

    Peace
    So what.. I lived on a civil war battle ground. The battle of Secessionville. Does that make me a racist or a bad person?

    I don't really care for Cheney either, but where he lives???? What does that have to do with anything ??
    JB811 wrote:
    So nobody should ever live there again?

    Why get bent out of shape, I only stated where the man has a summer home and what that place represented at one time just like you did. Take for it's historical purposes. I don't believe you're a racist just maybe a person who doesn't like history. :)

    If they put their homes up for sale you should be the first to put a bid in to buy it. :)

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Wrong sir... :roll: I love History. If It's not a big deal then why did you even post it ? What about Where obama used to live in Chicago? Does that mean he likes the Mafia? Maybe you should do some background work where you live . No telling what you might find out. after all isn't that what's so great about history ? You never Know until you start to dig.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    edited June 2009
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Wrong sir... :roll: I love History. If It's not a big deal then why did you even post it ? What about Where obama used to live in Chicago? Does that mean he likes the Mafia? Maybe you should do some background work where you live . No telling what you might find out. after all isn't that what's so great about history ? You never Know until you start to dig.

    I did say MAYBE right. I posted it because I do live in the same state where he has his summer home and I've been over to the eastern shore many times. On visits playing college basketball and because of it's historical values of how the eastern shores was such fertile grounds for it's agriculture during slavery.

    Peace
    Post edited by g under p on
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    JB811 wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    NOTHING surprises me about Cheney.

    The man has a summer home on Mount Misery in eastern Maryland not far from Rumsfeld. BTW it was the former place where slaves were taken to be punished for being disobedient, plotting to escape or captured. Many were beaten and faced far more harsh conditions than on the southern plantations.

    Peace


    So nobody should ever live there again?
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    _outlaw wrote:
    JB811 wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    NOTHING surprises me about Cheney.

    The man has a summer home on Mount Misery in eastern Maryland not far from Rumsfeld. BTW it was the former place where slaves were taken to be punished for being disobedient, plotting to escape or captured. Many were beaten and faced far more harsh conditions than on the southern plantations.

    Peace


    So nobody should ever live there again?
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

    :lol:

    Irony: Like if a member of the Ku Klux Klan decided to carve the heads of four U.S Presidents on a rocky outcrop in the middle of the Lakota Sioux's most sacred mountain. He he! Can you just imagine it?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    More fearmongering from the CIA?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    More fearmongering from the CIA?

    this opinion doesn't invoke fear in anyone for any reason so i don't see the fearmongering ... i just think this is obama trying to offset cheney's pr war on this administration ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    More fearmongering from the CIA?

    this opinion doesn't invoke fear in anyone for any reason so i don't see the fearmongering ... i just think this is obama trying to offset cheney's pr war on this administration ...


    Yep, that's exactly what it is...also setting it up so if the US is attacked Obama can still blame Cheney...since he wanted it to happen.

    It's all stupid BS. I also think it is extremely irresponsible of anyone to claim someone (even Dick Cheney) WANTS the US to be attacked and people killed. It's beyond stupid, it's insulting and childish.

    Maybe Obama WANTS the US to be attacked so he can change into "Yes We Can" Man, cape and all, save the day and mark his place in the History books....again.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    cincybearcat wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    More fearmongering from the CIA?

    this opinion doesn't invoke fear in anyone for any reason so i don't see the fearmongering ... i just think this is obama trying to offset cheney's pr war on this administration ...


    Yep, that's exactly what it is...also setting it up so if the US is attacked Obama can still blame Cheney...since he wanted it to happen.

    It's all stupid BS. I also think it is extremely irresponsible of anyone to claim someone (even Dick Cheney) WANTS the US to be attacked and people killed. It's beyond stupid, it's insulting and childish.

    Maybe Obama WANTS the US to be attacked so he can change into "Yes We Can" Man, cape and all, save the day and mark his place in the History books....again.

    I think Obama wants us to be attacked again so he can go on another apology tour. "We're sorry our buildings killed your hijackers."[/ducking]

    :D:D:D:D
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Maybe Obama WANTS the US to be attacked so he can change into "Yes We Can" Man, cape and all, save the day and mark his place in the History books....again.

    the only people that want to see america attacked are the people that will benefit ... which are your arms manufacturers and engineering firms ...
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_fo ... _Harbor.22

    Project for the New American Century

    'Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" (51).[13]

    In his appearance on Democracy Now!, theologian David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11, explains the allusion to "the New Pearl Harbor" from the PNAC report in the title of his book, which argues that PNAC members within the Bush Administration were complicit in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.[37]

    Further information: 9/11 truth movement and Controlled demolition hypothesis for the collapse of the World Trade Center
    Though not arguing that Bush administration PNAC members were complicit in those attacks, other social critics such as commentator Manuel Valenzuela and journalist Mark Danner,[38][39][40] investigative journalist John Pilger, in The New Statesman,[41] and former editor of The San Francisco Chronicle Bernard Weiner, in CounterPunch,[42] all argue that PNAC members used the events as the "Pearl Harbor" that they needed––that is, as an "opportunity" to "capitalize on" (in Pilger's words), in order to enact long-desired plans.[43]

    "When the Towers came down," William Rivers Pitt writes in his editorial in Truthout.org, "these men saw, at long last, their chance to turn their White Papers into substantive policy."[
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    polaris_x wrote:
    the only people that want to see america attacked are the people that will benefit ... which are your arms manufacturers and engineering firms

    Yep thats it... :roll: :lol:
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    the only people that want to see america attacked are the people that will benefit ... which are your arms manufacturers and engineering firms

    Yep thats it... :roll: :lol:

    sorry ... i should have prefaced it with ... *in america*

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