Why do adults not listen to music as intensely as teens do?

pandora

if music was an important part of your life as a teen it will be so all thru your life

Music For Rhinos

pandora wrote:

if music was an important part of your life as a teen it will be so all thru your life

absolutely agree with this statement.

DewieCox

Music For Rhinos wrote:

pandora wrote:

if music was an important part of your life as a teen it will be so all thru your life

absolutely agree with this statement.

I don't think so. I think it's subject to fall by the wayside as a hobby as anything else.

FinsburyParkCarrots

As a habitually gigging musician (I even played a gig in London tonight), I have the authority here to tell you respectfully that this whole thread is a load of bollocks. Whenever I play a gig to adults, they listen intensely. If there are teenagers in the audience, they never fucking shut up talking amongst themselves about inane shit. They've all eaten too many packets of Monster Munch because they've got ADD or something. They're incapable of listening to anything, by and large. Give me the over 30s, any day.

soulsinging

musicismylife78 wrote:

if people listened to music as teens to deal with emotions and feelings, why dont adults do the same? If I have a hard time dealing with a dead end job and bosses and all that, wouldnt it make sense for an adult to put on The Boxer or Born to Run? Why are only teens allowed to do something like that?

Because when you get older and get real problems you realize the angst you felt as a teen was pretty absurd. You don't need a song to get through lameness. You realize your job is a dead end because everyone's job is a dead end and why spend your life moaning about it when you've got better things to do?

Music For Rhinos

I agree with FinsburyParkCarrots, this thread is a load of shit.

Listen...no matter what anyone has said, (and there have been a lot of different opinions)...

just look closely at the original statement being made here, which is:

"Adults do not listen to music as intensely as teens do."

Okay, bottom line, there is no way you can make that call!

That is a complete generalization to say adults don't listen to music as intensely as teens do.

No matter what ANYONE says, only YOU know how intensely music speaks to YOU and there are billions of people in this world, many of whom are bound to be older adults that love music very much and make it a part of their lives.

olderman

I can't hear ya.. the music is too loud :P

PJGARDEN

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

As a habitually gigging musician (I even played a gig in London tonight), I have the authority here to tell you respectfully that this whole thread is a load of bollocks. Whenever I play a gig to adults, they listen intensely. If there are teenagers in the audience, they never fucking shut up talking amongst themselves about inane shit. They've all eaten too many packets of Monster Munch because they've got ADD or something. They're incapable of listening to anything, by and large. Give me the over 30s, any day.

I agree with this post 100%.

redrock

musicismylife78 wrote:

We as kids are told: be anything you want to be. And kids often come up with answers like astronaut, firefighter, pilot, doctor, nba player, football player etc...

But at a certain age, we are expected to leave all that behind, and get real. And thats sad to me. It shouldnt be like that, and I will never be like them. Them as in those people who think success and status are happiness. people who think that making money and fame and having a huge house and fancy car is something to strive for.

Are there not astronauts, firefighters, pilots, etc? If that's what you want to be, that's what you get to be should you pursue it (assuming you have the skills). When does a kid whowants to be a doctor has 'to leave it all behind and get real'? Is it wrong to want success? Is it wrong to work in order to have a nice home for your family?

To me looks like the problem with you is not music, but adult life in general!

soulsinging

redrock wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

We as kids are told: be anything you want to be. And kids often come up with answers like astronaut, firefighter, pilot, doctor, nba player, football player etc...

But at a certain age, we are expected to leave all that behind, and get real. And thats sad to me. It shouldnt be like that, and I will never be like them. Them as in those people who think success and status are happiness. people who think that making money and fame and having a huge house and fancy car is something to strive for.

Are there not astronauts, firefighters, pilots, etc? If that's what you want to be, that's what you get to be should you pursue it (assuming you have the skills). When does a kid whowants to be a doctor has 'to leave it all behind and get real'? Is it wrong to want success? Is it wrong to work in order to have a nice home for your family?

To me looks like the problem with you is not music, but adult life in general!

Bingo. And threads like these are transparent generalizations attempting to rationalize his failure to grow up... so he dismisses anything he perceives as adult as some kind of soulless compromise. If it doesn't conform to his notion of how everyone should live, then it is wrong.

megatron

seems like a generalized statement.
i'm more intense about music now more than when i was a teen

but i wouldn't consider myself an adult

norm

soulsinging wrote:

redrock wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

We as kids are told: be anything you want to be. And kids often come up with answers like astronaut, firefighter, pilot, doctor, nba player, football player etc...

But at a certain age, we are expected to leave all that behind, and get real. And thats sad to me. It shouldnt be like that, and I will never be like them. Them as in those people who think success and status are happiness. people who think that making money and fame and having a huge house and fancy car is something to strive for.

Are there not astronauts, firefighters, pilots, etc? If that's what you want to be, that's what you get to be should you pursue it (assuming you have the skills). When does a kid whowants to be a doctor has 'to leave it all behind and get real'? Is it wrong to want success? Is it wrong to work in order to have a nice home for your family?

To me looks like the problem with you is not music, but adult life in general!

Bingo. And threads like these are transparent generalizations attempting to rationalize his failure to grow up... so he dismisses anything he perceives as adult as some kind of soulless compromise. If it doesn't conform to his notion of how everyone should live, then it is wrong.

yep





and i'm nearly 40 and am into music more than i've ever been

musicismylife78

soulsinging wrote:

redrock wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

We as kids are told: be anything you want to be. And kids often come up with answers like astronaut, firefighter, pilot, doctor, nba player, football player etc...

But at a certain age, we are expected to leave all that behind, and get real. And thats sad to me. It shouldnt be like that, and I will never be like them. Them as in those people who think success and status are happiness. people who think that making money and fame and having a huge house and fancy car is something to strive for.

Are there not astronauts, firefighters, pilots, etc? If that's what you want to be, that's what you get to be should you pursue it (assuming you have the skills). When does a kid whowants to be a doctor has 'to leave it all behind and get real'? Is it wrong to want success? Is it wrong to work in order to have a nice home for your family?

To me looks like the problem with you is not music, but adult life in general!

Bingo. And threads like these are transparent generalizations attempting to rationalize his failure to grow up... so he dismisses anything he perceives as adult as some kind of soulless compromise. If it doesn't conform to his notion of how everyone should live, then it is wrong.

Every thread I post on you act like you know what the hell I am going through, and you act like you know me personally. I have never met you, and frankly, I never want to meet you. You would most likely critique my clothes or my apartment or every single thing in my life.

I have a different opinion on work, life, and adulthood than you, soulsinging, and different than others as well. Thats fine. I see your railings on me as some pathetic attempt to rationalize your own failures of success and status and whatnot. You compromised and became one of those people I refered to as "them". Thats your own deal.

If I refuse to play the game, refuse to get the house, 2.5 kids and get married, the white picket fence, and refuse to follow a career path that leads to soullessness, what buisness is it of yours?

I havent forced you to adopt my lifestyle. You disagree with my entire life philosophy. Fine, but your getting old.

Maybe when I post a thread I should have a "soulsingings disagreements" and leave some room for you to comment.

I may be different and unique, but I am not THAT different and unique. There are more people than just me who subscribe to my lifestyle and philosophy of life

musicismylife78

So you dont think going to concerts, multiple concerts a month, or frequently, is considered a thing, youths do? I go to concerts very frequently, so I feel I can speak on it.

You've never heard an adult tell someone, usually someone younger than them, that "they should get a real job" and its in reference to the fact that this younger person is into the arts?

washedinblack91

musicismylife78 wrote:

So you dont think going to concerts, multiple concerts a month, or frequently, is considered a thing, youths do? I go to concerts very frequently, so I feel I can speak on it.

You've never heard an adult tell someone, usually someone younger than them, that "they should get a real job" and its in reference to the fact that this younger person is into the arts?

my parents used to go to concerts all the time when i was a kid and they were in their 20s/30s (my parents are 9 years apart). my dad was in dental school (he's a dentist now) and my mom was (and still is) an ultrasound tech. i dont think going to concerts a lot is by no means a youthful thing to do, it's just that when you get older you have more priorities that have to be taken care of first before you indulge. sometimes when you're a teenager you could save up money for tickets and that's it because you live with your parents who provide you with necessities, but when you get older and start a family you can't really go that often because of your responsibilities and because you might not have the money to spend to indulge yourself after car payments, kid stuff, mortgage payments, food, utility bills, etc etc.

i will, however, say that there are some people out there that feel people have to "grow up" and stop going to concerts and get a real job. living in australia, i've roomed with some people whose parents (and they themselves) are of the minds that one shouldn't be doing this or that because you shouldn't have too much fun and i have no idea why. thank god my parents aren't like that! one of my best friends' mom once told her not to come hang out with us because she's been hanging out with us too much. i really don't understand the whole "you shouldn't be having fun, you should be working and making yourself useful" mentality. and to that i say: "kiss my ass!"

this thread really effin scared me. really badly. i was starting to get extremely into music to the point where i might start a band, maybe even make a career out of it. but then i read how some people transform music into a hobby and lost interest and it scared the shit out of me. i thought, wait, am i going through a music-loving phase that will just fade as i get older? well, actually, i'm still scared of that

oh, btw, not every career sucks your soul. i know a guy who works at a company dealing with merges and all kinds of corporate stuff and he loves it. i think he gets wet talking about it sometimes.

Thoughts_Arrive

musicismylife78 wrote:

When we were kids, or teens, it seemed for me, and most likely others, that music helped us deal with the pains of growing up, of dealing with teen issues. Music soundtracked our lives.

Somewhere along the way, most people seem to not listen to music anymore. Or with less frequency than they did as a kid. Maybe its because they get new interests, or they get new passions, they get in relaitonships, get a job, or a million other reasons.

Music seems to be one of those things people expect you to grow out of. Like reading comics, its something kids do, teens do. Its left in the past. Those who spend hours pursuing or listening music or the arts are derided as dreamers or losers or wierdos or slackers.

Music had the ability to describe and pinpoint how you felt. It described emotions you didnt know how to process or deal with. We all can pinpoint those moments. The big ones, like hearing Teen Spirit, the whole grunge scene, but also non traditional "mind blowing" songs. The Verve Pipe's Freshman, or The Wallflowers One Headlight. They both to me are as important as any Pearl Jam or Nirvana song.

And still even today, listening to these songs brings me back and brings back emotions. Feelings.

Does music these days still have the ability to emotionally move you? Can it transport us, to different places, as escapism?

Why do people seem to not care about music when they become adults? I am 25 and I never want to lose this feeling. Music is the most important thing in my life. Thus the username. I dont want to get older and have music mean less to me. I want to be a rare feet, a 90 year old who still goes to rock shows, and still listens to music, current music. Maybe not, but you get the idea.

What about music makes it not appeal to adults? Its like the whole Polar Express idea. Kids can hear the bells, but as we get older we no longer hear the bells. Why do people stop hearing it?

I am almost 25 and I hope I have this passion for life.
I don't get the time to chill out in my room with the music loud, that's what full time work does.
I used to be into more fast loud music as a youngster, punk rock. Still love it but now I love mellow stuff, guess I am mellowing out haha.
My #1 favourite band in my teens and early 20's..The Ramones!
I haven't listened to them in over a year, wtf is wrong with me, I feel bad about it.
Maybe I have discovered songs that mean more to me lyrically.

Thoughts_Arrive

musicismylife78 wrote:

I disagree and until my dying breath will disagree. For me, the act of going to work each day, at a job you hate, which is what the majority of americans do each day, for 40 plus years of their lives. Think abut that a second. Most people, spend the majority of their waking hours, and the majority of their adult lives, doing tasks for money, that they hate and despise. I dont want that life, and I never will.

At this point in my life, music is the deciding factor. Its the most important thing. I get more out of going to a show or listening on headphones to a good record, than I do out of most activities. work especially.

Are you my clone?
lol

I get depressed thinking about it, chained to your desk being poked at by the big bosses daily for the next 40 years. Is this what life is? To be stressed and raped by the corporate world every day?
I just want to make music like my heroes, that is the life!

PJGARDEN

musicismylife78 wrote:

So you dont think going to concerts, multiple concerts a month, or frequently, is considered a thing, youths do? I go to concerts very frequently, so I feel I can speak on it.

You've never heard an adult tell someone, usually someone younger than them, that "they should get a real job" and its in reference to the fact that this younger person is into the arts?

You make it seem like you can't have both?? I go to a ton of concerts and the reason I am able to do that is b/c I have a real job. My job is not my passion and it never will be but it lets me do the things I enjoy. I honestly get what your saying about not wanting to conform to the standards but I think at some point you realize that having a real job is necessary, for most people anyway. It doesn't mean you have to abandon your hobbies.

soulsinging

musicismylife78 wrote:

So you dont think going to concerts, multiple concerts a month, or frequently, is considered a thing, youths do? I go to concerts very frequently, so I feel I can speak on it.

You've never heard an adult tell someone, usually someone younger than them, that "they should get a real job" and its in reference to the fact that this younger person is into the arts?

We'll see how many concerts you go to when your parents cut you off and you can't afford to buy the tickets anymore. I'll be anxious to hear your perspective on jobs then, once someone else is no longer paying your rent for you.

soulsinging

musicismylife78 wrote:

I may be different and unique, but I am not THAT different and unique. There are more people than just me who subscribe to my lifestyle and philosophy of life

Exactly. You are not THAT unique. You're the only one that seems to think so. I know many with similar philosophies as yours, but few of them feel compelled to piss on everyone else and pass judgment on their life decisions and character the way you do.

Define irony:

musicismylife78 wrote:

Every thread I post on you act like you know what the hell I am going through, and you act like you know me personally. I have never met you,

musicismylife78 wrote:

You compromised and became one of those people I refered to as "them".,

I guesss it's unthinkable that people could form some sense of you based on your posts here, but perfectly reasonable for you to do the same to others based on whether or not they hold a job :roll: