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Ten Club Pulling Plug On Youtube

Released1980Released1980 Posts: 1,790
edited June 2009 in Given To Fly (live)
I understand the whole no cameras allowed therefore there should be no posting of pics or vids here.(E.V solo shows all pulled by tenclub from youtube)But whats the big deal with the yotube vids? I mean nobody will say if these shows will ever be released as a bootleg or dvd, and anyone who got a vid paid good money to go in and see a show they will want to always remember. Are the youtube vids gonna really hurt any type of pre-sale or marketing of a possible bootleg if there ever is one?( which I really hope there will be) And if so, do you really think we wouldn't purchase something cuz we've seen 3 minute clips on youtube. I mean DAMN.. I've spent over $2000 the past year or so for these solo shows, and i cant even come home and watch a two minute clip of something i might have missed??? Please somebody " in the know" Let us know if there is even an idea of the possibility of future releases of EV shows. I cant afford every show and my brain is starting to hurt from trying to remember it all. ROCKIN IN THE FREE WORLD!!!!!!!!!
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  • Red Mosquito75Red Mosquito75 Moline IL Posts: 1,037
    some good points...I would think the you tube vids would only help the band...not financially but other ways.
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  • Released1980Released1980 Posts: 1,790
    I know, and do you really think eddie gives a shit?
    "It's so nice to hear that in other parts of the world, the stress- borne from envy- that one finds for themselves is the animosity they develop towards a person selling a box of records. How fortunate!" ~ Thirty Bills Unpaid

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  • Dissident67Dissident67 Posts: 570
    You make really good points and I would assume most fans would agree with you, but since there is a no taping policy that all ticker buyers are well aware of the ten club has the right to take down all videos. Whatever there reasons are that is the policy and they are going to enforce it.
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  • Released1980Released1980 Posts: 1,790
    Yeah, They're enforcing it like the fuckin " PATRIOT ACT " . All I want is some info. BUt till then i'll continue to try and beat them to it so can catch five more minutes of him. Or at least 39 seconds of " The kids are alright" I wish they were that quick with my Deep Magazine.
    "It's so nice to hear that in other parts of the world, the stress- borne from envy- that one finds for themselves is the animosity they develop towards a person selling a box of records. How fortunate!" ~ Thirty Bills Unpaid

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  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    Released1980 wrote:
    I wish they were that quick with my Deep Magazine.

    :lol:
  • NastasjaNastasja Posts: 9,668
    Yes, I definitely want the shows on Youtube. I've seen Eddie in Albany last Monday and fell in love with his version of Mr. State Trooper. Now I can't watch it again! This is sooo sad. Even if I would watch Eddie's Solo shows on Youtube 24/7, I still would go to his concerts! There's a big difference of seeing him on a screen and LIVE!
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  • SkeeterBSkeeterB If I knew where it was, I would take you there... Posts: 423
    Since they're pulling the plug, maybe the mods can ask someone close to Ed and ask him if it's ok if they can put out official clips from the shows, ala the 2000 shows on the old synergy site.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    There's another thread about this stuff on AET (though not only PJ related but all bands) and why stuff is being pulled off the likes of youtube.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    well said...if they dont allowed that,at least make an official video to see some minutes..anyway for me as a european 10c didnt allowed to buy tickets of ev solo concerts,so this type of vids is the only way that this tour ever happen for me..
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  • littlewingfridayslittlewingfridays Posts: 242
    Agreed!
    Maybe either let us record ourselves or release something official.
    This Chinese Government-type censorship on the vids and bootlegs is going in the wrong direction, especially for PJ
  • TheDecline13TheDecline13 Posts: 990
    He may not have the rights to be playing these songs. Well he maybe allowed to play them but not air them.. You know what I mean?
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  • OkOk Posts: 2,144
    TheDecline13 wrote:
    He may not have the rights to be playing these songs. Well he maybe allowed to play them but not air them.. You know what I mean?

    :?:
  • Red Mosquito75Red Mosquito75 Moline IL Posts: 1,037
    I like to show my kids eddie and pearl jam on you tube because I don't take them to the shows with me and the wife but they like the band.....It would be cooler if they stayed on youtube a little or 10c put some stuff on there
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    don't mess with the mafia...... :evil:
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  • RITFWinCORITFWinCO Posts: 217
    You bought a ticket for the privilege to attend a live performance. Just because the technology exists does not mean you have the right to have access to re-watch the show in perpetuity. (You don't get a DVD copy along with your ticket at the movie theater.). Clearly they/he have their reasons and that is their right as owners of the art/content.

    I do agree that from a viral marketing standpoint that some YouTube vids would only create more good buzz but its their choice.
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    RITFWinCO wrote:
    You don't get a DVD copy along with your ticket at the movie theater.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
  • Lennon_CobainLennon_Cobain Posts: 704
    giventofly75 wrote:
    some good points...I would think the you tube vids would only help the band...not financially but other ways.
    Agreed. However, fans have to respect the wishes of artists even if we don't always like to.
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  • thecorythecory Posts: 290
    Released1980 wrote:
    I know, and do you really think eddie gives a shit?

    its gotta be his call right?
  • TsarinaLisaTsarinaLisa Posts: 205
    I posted video of Eddie from outside the Tower Theater from Friday night on Youtube and it was taken down??? This makes no sense to me!! How is it wrong to post him meeting fans? It was not from inside????
  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    TsarinaLisa wrote:
    I posted video of Eddie from outside the Tower Theater from Friday night on Youtube and it was taken down??? This makes no sense to me!! How is it wrong to post him meeting fans? It was not from inside????


    Thanks just really sad. Seriously Ten Club? If it's outside in a public place they have NO RIGHT to pull that down. The inside clearly said no cameras. You can shoot whatever you want outside.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,498
    Released1980 wrote:
    I understand the whole no cameras allowed therefore there should be no posting of pics or vids here.(E.V solo shows all pulled by tenclub from youtube)But whats the big deal with the yotube vids? I mean nobody will say if these shows will ever be released as a bootleg or dvd, and anyone who got a vid paid good money to go in and see a show they will want to always remember. Are the youtube vids gonna really hurt any type of pre-sale or marketing of a possible bootleg if there ever is one?( which I really hope there will be) And if so, do you really think we wouldn't purchase something cuz we've seen 3 minute clips on youtube. I mean DAMN.. I've spent over $2000 the past year or so for these solo shows, and i cant even come home and watch a two minute clip of something i might have missed??? Please somebody " in the know" Let us know if there is even an idea of the possibility of future releases of EV shows. I cant afford every show and my brain is starting to hurt from trying to remember it all. ROCKIN IN THE FREE WORLD!!!!!!!!!

    you tube gets hits and thus dollars for its content
    but the artist does not get a nickel

    I have no problem with the artists choosing what they will allow to be free on the net
    how would you feel if youtube was making money off your image, in concert or on the street, and not giving you a nickel or any creative control?

    personally, I think there will be a DVD and ED just doesnt want the low quality vids of his performances circulating, but I think its also the unauthorized, unlicensed, use of his image.


    ed and the band have always supported bootlegging for personal use- broadcasting concert footage or other stuff (meeting ed on the street say) on youtube is not really part of that

    so enjoy your vids on your computer, burn copies for friends,
    but dont publicly post em
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,498
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    TsarinaLisa wrote:
    I posted video of Eddie from outside the Tower Theater from Friday night on Youtube and it was taken down??? This makes no sense to me!! How is it wrong to post him meeting fans? It was not from inside????


    Thanks just really sad. Seriously Ten Club? If it's outside in a public place they have NO RIGHT to pull that down. The inside clearly said no cameras. You can shoot whatever you want outside.

    you are correct, but you dont have the right to publicly post it on the internet
    two different things amigo
  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    Get_Right wrote:
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    TsarinaLisa wrote:
    I posted video of Eddie from outside the Tower Theater from Friday night on Youtube and it was taken down??? This makes no sense to me!! How is it wrong to post him meeting fans? It was not from inside????


    Thanks just really sad. Seriously Ten Club? If it's outside in a public place they have NO RIGHT to pull that down. The inside clearly said no cameras. You can shoot whatever you want outside.

    you are correct, but you dont have the right to publicly post it on the internet
    two different things amigo


    Then how do sites like TMZ get away with posting celebrity videos?
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,498
    hopethatuchoke wrote:


    Then how do sites like TMZ get away with posting celebrity videos?
    Well lets just say there is a fine line between "journalism" and posting unauthorized content.
    If TMZ posted something, and PJ management complained, they would argue first amendment right to free speech, that EV is a celebrity and that anything he does is news and publishable.
    Its get much more complicated when you are talking about copyrighted songs or licensed material.
    You tube does not present itself as journalism as far as I know, and that is part of why they take down content.
    But a party who posted a youtube vid of Ed on the street might have a valid claim if willing to pursue it that far.

    But if someone did, Ed would never do it again.
  • gndcd402gndcd402 Posts: 2,567
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  • nukebootnukeboot Posts: 1,465
    "I understand the whole no cameras allowed therefore there should be no posting of pics or vids here.(E.V solo shows all pulled by tenclub from youtube)But whats the big deal with the yotube vids?"

    I don't get your logic.

    It's OK to remove them from here, where we are all paid Ten Club members, but they should be allowed
    on public sites with global exposure?

    I'm not happy with the no cameras/no taping policy, but it's Ed's choice.
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  • Released1980Released1980 Posts: 1,790
    My Logic ( which i really dont think i have any ) is that i dont think Ed or any of the members(pearl jam) have a say at all about these vids or pics, or songs being on sites like youtube or whatever else. I think it is tenclub. I was at both albany shows and people were flashin away and recording all night. Security didn't do jack, Eddie was never perturbed by it, especially when we all rushed stage during Hard Sun and eddie was slappin 5 with everyone and flashes from cameras everywhere. I get the whole General public thing, very good point, but last leg of solo tour there were no restrictions on cameras or anything and all those vids are gone? Eddie definately knows cameras and taping is going on throughout the audience every show and so does his staff...They dont care, we are all there for eddie and the experience, the rarities, the stories, its unreal. Some of the most exciting times of my life( always will be). Maybe if they would do the reverse and allow cameras for us paying customers and still pull the stuff from youtube everyone would be a bit more pleased( as if Eddie wasn't enough ). I mean, the bootlegs and all are great,i have them ALL. But To have a lil something all your own( 10 mins. of grainy eddie vid) would be extra special, but I respected what it stated on my ticket and didnt sneak anything into the shows, and those that did.... Ahgghh lucky bastards. Well, ya get my point... i'm fkn JEALOUS. Anyone wit some vids from Albany 1 and 2 please send message. Oh, I just wrote a tiny little white letter "r" on my backspace key and then pressed it a thousand times to make sure it wouldn't "FADE AWAY" so i actually wrote this twice.
    "It's so nice to hear that in other parts of the world, the stress- borne from envy- that one finds for themselves is the animosity they develop towards a person selling a box of records. How fortunate!" ~ Thirty Bills Unpaid

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