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I FUCKIN FEEL LIKE TALKIN ABOUT JEFF AMENT

SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,396
edited June 2009 in The Porch
Seriously one of the best of all time.

Don't believe me? Listen to Present Tense and Whipping.

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"Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
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  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    He's good but not one of the best. Would you seriously put him up there with the likes of Victor Wooten, Flea, the guy from Primus?
  • ZidaneZidane Ottawa Posts: 362
    Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Jeff Ament.

    But to consider him one of the best...? I like that story where Les Claypool tried to get in Metallica:

    "In 1986, after the death of Metallica bassist Cliff Burton, Claypool auditioned to play bass for Metallica, playing the song "Master of Puppets" on his bass. In Metallica's Behind the Music, Claypool said that during the audition he jokingly asked the others if they wanted to "jam on some Isley Brothers tunes." James Hetfield remarked that Claypool was not awarded the job because "he was too good"."
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    he's alright
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  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    I loved Jeff's fretless slither on Ten - & always wondered why he got away from that because I thought it helped to give PJ a distinctive sound. I guess, like Eddies growl, that's just one of the pieces lost in the band's evolution. A great bass player to be sure though...
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  • ScrapeMySkyScrapeMySky Posts: 426
    The good thing is that in a band like this you don't need to be the best or fastest or most badass player in the world. You just need to know how and when to deliver. And I think we all know that he does!
  • surforiasurforia SoCal Posts: 352
    Ament has a great groove to him... His bass line in "Save You" is killer...
    Matt Freeman from Rancid is my personal favorite bass player tho...
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  • cippociappocippociappo Posts: 692
    I love Jeff!! It's hard to compare him to others without ending up comparing the whole band with other bands.

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  • dreamweaverdreamweaver New York Posts: 722
    you can't compare jeff, flea, or victor wooten to each other... it's like saying vanilla is superior to chocolate
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  • YieldedYielded Posts: 839
    Jeff's a very tasteful player (ie. he knows when to let it rip and when to hang back), and to me that's one of the most important aspects of being a bass player.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,968
    my idol through junior high & highschool. i used to dress up like ament. '92, collecting & viewing live video bootlegs of him & ed just flying around stage, jumping from front speaker amp's, off dave's drum set stand etc.. i was so moved i would do that in my room of the bed with my bass guitar. lol. during '95, seeing that rugrat doll wrapped around his bass guitar strap, and anything else he would hang, the canadian flag @ mudfest '93 etc.. he is awesome & still today, the guy still has it! :)

    i miss though those hat's he used to wear. and his side project with three fish.
    one of my favorite side projects.
    they did promise on much music together they would play 2000 in instanbul.
    never happened. :|
    please next time, if you form up, play east coast canada then! :mrgreen:
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    haha... i love that picture... wheres that from?

    jeffs the fuckin man! go listen to "the real me" and tell me he didnt do ox justice! this wouldnt require so much debate if they would just turn him up in the mix

    maybe not wooten or claypool or flea but PJs music doesnt call for that... and id say jeff has a better ear as a songwriter than any of those other guys... instead of just mindless funktastic slappin (not that theres anything wrong with that) ... but comparing jeff to them is like comparing stone to satriani and vai :lol:
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  • Red Mosquito75Red Mosquito75 Moline IL Posts: 1,037
    jeff is good...seems like a cool guy to
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Far be it from me to sit here and say Flea and Les aren't good bass players --- obviously, they're phenomenal -- but they aren't really my cup of tea.

    I prefer my bass to be sort of laid back and groovy (listen to Faithfull, for instance). Les and Flea are more ostentatious ... more right up in your face. Which is fine. But unless you want Pearl Jam to turn into a funk band, I'm not sure it works for them.

    Jeff is one of the best at what he does. Comparing him to Flea or Claypool is like saying Mike McCready is a better guitar player than Stone. It's two different kinds of guitar playing.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I hope Jeff's head is feeling ok.

    ...bass is really an ear-thumping instrument.

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  • touringfantouringfan Posts: 568
    Jeff is the straw that stirs the drink. Love me some Jeff.
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  • shell bellshell bell Posts: 337
    Jeff is the MAN! I was lucky enough to see him w/ three Fish several times. Awsome side project that needs to be brought back, that is of couse after they (PJ) plays a tour.
    when you get confused just listen to the music play........

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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,968
    the greatest ament pose/bass guitar shot! 8-)

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  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,396
    inmytree3684 wrote:
    He's good but not one of the best. Would you seriously put him up there with the likes of Victor Wooten, Flea, the guy from Primus?


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    Jeff does some crazy ass stuff but its very tastefully done, he doesn't over do it... not as "in your face" as the dudes you mentioned
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    he inspired me 2 pick up the bass! thank you jeff!=D
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  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,281
    read the new deep and the dude has some bad luck with getting mugged and it was sooo kewl that the local seattle community came together for him. that was awesome.

    oh an um i think i wet myself when i finally saw the real me...he made the ox so f'n proud...he really dialed it in for that performance...best eva

    ummm also gotta say i love hearing jeremy live just because of him
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    SomethingCreative wrote:
    Seriously one of the best of all time.

    Don't believe me? Listen to Present Tense and Whipping.

    jeffa.jpg

    Fuckin' A! Jeff Ament is the shit!

    I wouldn't say he's one of the best technically, but he is master of his own style. However, Jeff has a presence in PJ's songs, and artistic merrit(album covers, booklet photography) that not a lot of bass players have. He's just fucking right for Pearl Jam.

    Plus, he's able to say that he was a building block in the making of the Seattle Sound. Jeff Ament is the shit, all many levels.
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    sgossard3 wrote:
    haha... i love that picture... wheres that from?

    jeffs the fuckin man! go listen to "the real me" and tell me he didnt do ox justice! this wouldnt require so much debate if they would just turn him up in the mix

    maybe not wooten or claypool or flea but PJs music doesnt call for that... and id say jeff has a better ear as a songwriter than any of those other guys... instead of just mindless funktastic slappin (not that theres anything wrong with that) ... but comparing jeff to them is like comparing stone to satriani and vai :lol:

    That picture is either from the Seattle DD show, or one of the GR shows with The Melvins...I forget which!
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  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,396
    He's not THE best ever (Entwistle is) but you guys really don't think he's one of the best? top 10 at least?
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    SomethingCreative wrote:
    He's not THE best ever (Entwistle is) but you guys really don't think he's one of the best? top 10 at least?
    hes my favorite and id say hes pretty high up there.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,968
    PJ_kidd wrote:
    he inspired me 2 pick up the bass! thank you jeff!=D

    same happened to me during junior high & high school. then later university kicked in and thing's turned to the darkside. :|
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    shell bell wrote:
    Jeff is the MAN! I was lucky enough to see him w/ three Fish several times. Awsome side project that needs to be brought back, that is of couse after they (PJ) plays a tour.


    I remember catching Three Fish, I think it was at Mercury Lounge back in 96 or 97. PJ does have a lot of side projects!
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    SomethingCreative wrote:
    He's not THE best ever (Entwistle is) but you guys really don't think he's one of the best? top 10 at least?

    I'd say he's in the convo as far as maintream rock band bass players go, but he's definitely not the technically proficient bass shred type.

    He's just a great a classic groove based player. I think he deserves a mention, at the very least. I still think there are 10 pretty well known bass players that I would have no argument putting above JA. Also true what was mentioned about his hand in all things PJ.

    Some others that I'd probably bring up

    Entwistle
    John Paul Jones
    Justin Chancellor-more b/c the style of music, and much in the same way I'd mention Adam Jones in a guitar debate
    Flea
    McCartney
    Geezer Butler
    Jack Bruce
    Cliff Burton
    Robert Deleo
    Geddy Lee
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    SomethingCreative wrote:
    He's not THE best ever (Entwistle is) but you guys really don't think he's one of the best? top 10 at least?


    I don't think that Ed is the best singer ever (best writer though!), I don't think that Jeff is the best bassist, that Mike and Stone are the best guitarists nor that Matt is the best drummer. But together they are a great band.

    The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    jeff is epic..
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  • Sleep.With.InnocenceSleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    CJMST3K wrote:
    The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.

    I think that's the best way to put it. :D And the sum is pretty fucking good to. :D

    With all due respect to Jeff, Les Claypool is probably the best bass player I've ever heard in my life. Talent wise Les is second to none.

    I do love it when Jeff plays the stand up bass. It really adds a great vibe to songs like Indifference, etc.
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