History of US involvement in Latin America
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Guatemala - 1953-1954, 1960-1980
Costa Rica - Mid-1950s
Haiti - 1959-1963, 1986-1994 *
Ecuador - 1960-1963
Brazil - 1961-1964
Peru - 1960-1965
Dominican Republic - 1960-1966
Cuba - 1959 to 1980s
Uruguay - 1964-1970 *
Chile - 1964-1973
Bolivia - 1964-1975
Costa Rica - 1970-1971
Grenada - 1979-1984
Nicaragua - 1981-1990
Panama - 1969-1991
El Salvador - 1980-1994
Costa Rica - Mid-1950s
Haiti - 1959-1963, 1986-1994 *
Ecuador - 1960-1963
Brazil - 1961-1964
Peru - 1960-1965
Dominican Republic - 1960-1966
Cuba - 1959 to 1980s
Uruguay - 1964-1970 *
Chile - 1964-1973
Bolivia - 1964-1975
Costa Rica - 1970-1971
Grenada - 1979-1984
Nicaragua - 1981-1990
Panama - 1969-1991
El Salvador - 1980-1994
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On May 23, 1997 the CIA released several hundred formerly classified documents pertaining to the United States involvement in the 1954 coup in Guatemala. (1)
the CIA trained rebels in neighboring Nicaragua and Honduras and used them to overthrow the democratically elected Arbenz governement. The CIA installed a murderous military government.
Later National Intelligence Estimate of July 26, 1955 was declassified.
The violently overthrown Arbenz leadership was committed to land reform, democracy, and labor. The US installed Castillo Armas regime reversed everything. Democratic forms were dismantled, the labor movement, virtually "destroyed" and rural groups saw less help from the government. Denial of the "right to organize" was implemented.
Later, Guatemala emerged as an independent capitalist regime, unacceptable to US interests.
So the US cut off military aid and threatened to invade. Which forced Guatemala to go to the Soviets for arms. this is where is gets fucked up.
A little taste of US foreign policy.
1)http://www.coldwar.org/articles/50s/guatemala.html
i'm going to go down the list as i have time, and detail each one.
John Pilger - 'The War on Democracy': http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9629840148
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_on_Democracy
'The War on Democracy is a 2007 award-winning documentary film directed by Christopher Martin and John Pilger.[1] Focusing on the political state of Latin America, the film is a rebuke of both the United States' intervention in foreign countries' domestic politics, and its War on Terrorism...'
Though broadcast in 1987 the parallels with what's going on today are a real eye opener. It's also interesting to note Reagan admitting to being a terrorist, and a staunch supporter of death squads....
'The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis':
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... zf1p&hl=en
The Secret Government:
The Constitution in Crisis
A PBS Documentary
“The National Security Act of ‘47 gave us the National Security Council. Never have we had a National Security Council so concerned about the nation’s security that we’re always looking for threats and looking how to orchestrate our society to oppose those threats. National Security was invented, almost, in 1947, and now it has become the prime mover of everything we do as measured against something we invented in 1947."
-- U.S. Navy Admiral Gene La Rocque in PBS Documentary "The Secret Government" (view free)
In the revealing 22-minutes of the PBS documentary The Secret Government available for free viewing below, host Bill Moyers exposes the inner workings of a secret government much more vast that most people would ever imagine. Though originally broadcast in 1987, it is even more relevant today. Interviews with respected top military, intelligence, and government insiders reveal both the history and secret objectives of powerful groups in the hidden shadows of our government.
If you take time to watch this engaging documentary and further explore some of the vast amount of reliable, verifiable information on WantToKnow.info, you will very likely come to the conclusion that there is a powerful shadow or secret government which manipulates global politics behind the scenes. Government bureaucracies are known for their inefficiency, yet it is their very well-organized and hierarchical military and intelligence services through which those involved with the secret government are able to implement their secret plans.
the idea of a secret government (interesting and probable) isn't what this thread is about.
i'm just going from what can be proven absolutely, things that deal with US involvement in South and Central America.
Don't be put off by the title. The documentary is exactly what your thread is about. Watch it and see.
You think these Central and South American governments were overthrown with fully open and accountable actions by the U.S government? No, they behaved covertly - secretly. This is what the documentary is about.
Yeah, the decades long U.S oppression and murder of hundreds of thousands of people, including women and children, sure is something to laugh out loud about. It sure gives me a chuckle. Raping and murdering nuns, death squads wiping out whole villages, U.S tanks crushing civilians in the streets of Panama city and burying the bodies in mass graves, thousands tortured in Santiago's National stadium and 'disappeared'....what a hoot!
LOL ok whatever you say. this thread is joke
Then don't post here.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
everything posted is from the 50s, 60s and 70s. what do we hope to accomplish by talking about things that happened decades and generations ago? most of which have little to any relevance today.
Actually most of America's crimes in Latin America were carried out during the Reagan years. The criminal invasion of Panama occurred in 1989. Also, the attempted U.S backed coup against Hugo Chavez occurred in 2002. Not exactly ancient history.
But then only extremists discuss such things, right?
just making it up as you go along right? second of all, the invasion of Panama happened under Bush Sr. to remove Noriega. do you know anything about him? probably not other then he is a hero of yours for opposing the US. nevermind his background.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... _of_Panama
In May '89, during the national elections, an alliance of parties opposed to the military dictatorship of Manuel Noriega counted results from the country's election precincts before they were sent to the district centers. Their tally showed their candidate, Guillermo Endara defeating Carlos Duque, candidate of a pro-Noriega coalition, by a nearly 3-to-1 margin. Endara was beaten up by Noriega supporters the next day.[2] Noriega declared the election null and maintained power by force, making him unpopular among Panamanians.
No shit?
You think that's why the U.S invaded Panama? You run a quick wiki search and that's the issue all nicely wrapped up? I won't even bother to ask if you watched the documentary that this thread was created as a response to. I think it's perfectly obvious that you didn't.
because only your sources state the truth right? I've seen you use wiki countless times. it only tells the truth when its convenient for you. I get it now.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
haven't even got to the school of assassins.
might want to save your trolling for that..
by the way, i've only presented information, the fact that you're getting bent out of shape over this is interesting. it's only information.
I already asked, what kind of discussion are you looking for here? the majority of the things you posted were from 30-50 years ago. are you just looking to get people like me to admit the US has made mistakes in the past? of course we have. but like I said, TODAY, south america is doing just fine except for Venezuela and Columbia.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
America is in terrible debt too. so what?
issues in terms of stability, kidnapping, ridiculous separation wealth and other "various issues" have nothing to do with the US. the people have the ability to make their own choices in those countries without US interference.
stop blaming the US for others poor choices.
As for your comment about the US debt, such a comparsion shows your naitivity on the world of economics if you think our debt is anyhow the same as theirs. In fact, if we had the type of debt and cutbacks these nations face regularly, our population would have long ago overthrown the government. That's not a joke either - it's the absolute truth!
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
so now the IMF, World Bank, and UN = the US government. thats funny, but anway... you'll have to be more specific if you want to hold any credibility instead of just chest thumping that you've heard of the IMF and World Bank. so you dont like their lending standards? ok, how is that the fault of the US? the opposition south America has towards those banks are merely symbolic because of Chavez.
did you know they are also starting their own World Bank called the Bank of the South? if the US was the almighty powerful, wouldnt we have the power to stop such a move?
debt is debt. and its a problem for them and us.
a free market economy is the way to go. and the only way to know how to run it is the hard way. a lesson even we learn from time to time. you people get so spooked by big bad capitalism. in the end its about freedom and choices. something that is taken away with socialism and communism.