I give him a C
He's in considerable conflict with himself and He's still apologizing for America how many more times do we have to listen to this ? IMO this is fundamentally misleading
A word of advice, when you criticize everything a person does from the little to the big its hard to take your opinion seriously. Nevertheless, you are entitled to one.
Unless its Bush or any Rep. then its fine?
few things that matter in life have anything whatsoever to do with the partisan debate. it may be the most pointless waste of time i can think of. we live in a pseudo democracy, a 1 party system. as it is, nothing of value can be gained from entering into the partisan debate, or to play the partisan game. its all wool over the eyes. the fundamentals never change. a 1 party militant/capitalist class always wins the game.
we should be critical of our government, but disagreeing with everything Obama says or does, on the grounds he is a democrat, is a bit ridiculous, even if so far he has been just like all the other politicians to roll through Washington.
I wasn't disagreeing with Bush because he was a republican i was disagreeing with him because he is a mass murderer and had little respect for the environment. he was douchebag, not because of the R next to his name, but because he really was a douchebag. he gave us a lot to be critical of.
its harder now, outside of Fox, to be critical of Obama, even inside of Fox its hard, because they don't even know what he's doing wrong, or are failing to tell us. they just know he is a Democrat, and that's enough for them. but everywhere else you go he's a hero to a lot of people, which can be very dangerous. he is a good speaker, and gives a lot of hope. but so far his policies and his rhetoric are pretty dissimilar, about par for Washington. inside mainstream US media channels no one really has any clue as to what he's up to. that's where the partisan debate leaves us without a few minor details, annoying things like facts and reality.
"look what he did-he's bad" isn't really good enough. that's obvious. who what why when-all still very important.
Perhaps we should concentrate on practicing all of these fundamental ideologies at home before preaching them to others. Equality, human rights and democracy are wonderful but if we don't practice them and hypocritically challenge others to, what does that makes us? Also, the nuclear issue is a joke - we pick and choose who can hold them yet won't make across the board concessions for everyone's benefit and safety. Speeches are great, but actions are what counts and we show no real substantial actions to back these high-horse comments from our leader.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Perhaps we should concentrate on practicing all of these fundamental ideologies at home before preaching them to others. Equality, human rights and democracy are wonderful but if we don't practice them and hypocritically challenge others to, what does that makes us? Also, the nuclear issue is a joke - we pick and choose who can hold them yet won't make across the board concessions for everyone's benefit and safety. Speeches are great, but actions are what counts and we show no real substantial actions to back these high-horse comments from our leader.
i think if his policies ever match his rhetoric we might get somewhere.
i think if his policies ever match his rhetoric we might get somewhere.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
He has bigger balls than any other president on this matter. Call me a pessimist/realist but I doubt it will change much.
Bigger balls than who ? Bush ? why just because he went to egypt to kiss the asses of abunch of Muslims He's got balls yeah right :roll:
Is THIS what you mean by kissing the ass of Muslims:
I have come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.
...how much of the speech did you actually watch or read?
If so ... you couldn't be more wrong. I'll take this approach over the swagger of george bush any day.
I was alone and far away when I heard the band start playing!
...I was always a DeadHead, but when I first heard Winston Rodney, aka the Burning Spear, sing, I became a SpearHead too!
He has bigger balls than any other president on this matter. Call me a pessimist/realist but I doubt it will change much.
Bigger balls than who ? Bush ? why just because he went to egypt to kiss the asses of abunch of Muslims He's got balls yeah right :roll:
Is THIS what you mean by kissing the ass of Muslims:
I have come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.
...how much of the speech did you actually watch or read?
If so ... you couldn't be more wrong. I'll take this approach over the swagger of george bush any day.
I've got to second that one. A big reason why the middle east hates us as mush as they do is due to the arrogance this country has had for many years. We are a very close minded country. We embrace democracy, but only our own. "Mutual" respect is something unheard of in past administrations (That goes past Bush) and is the kind of new direction this country needs.
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we should be critical of our government, but disagreeing with everything Obama says or does, on the grounds he is a democrat, is a bit ridiculous, even if so far he has been just like all the other politicians to roll through Washington.
I wasn't disagreeing with Bush because he was a republican i was disagreeing with him because he is a mass murderer and had little respect for the environment. he was douchebag, not because of the R next to his name, but because he really was a douchebag. he gave us a lot to be critical of.
its harder now, outside of Fox, to be critical of Obama, even inside of Fox its hard, because they don't even know what he's doing wrong, or are failing to tell us. they just know he is a Democrat, and that's enough for them. but everywhere else you go he's a hero to a lot of people, which can be very dangerous. he is a good speaker, and gives a lot of hope. but so far his policies and his rhetoric are pretty dissimilar, about par for Washington. inside mainstream US media channels no one really has any clue as to what he's up to. that's where the partisan debate leaves us without a few minor details, annoying things like facts and reality.
"look what he did-he's bad" isn't really good enough. that's obvious. who what why when-all still very important.
I would now, but at the time probably not.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
maybe some day.
Is THIS what you mean by kissing the ass of Muslims:
I have come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.
...how much of the speech did you actually watch or read?
If so ... you couldn't be more wrong. I'll take this approach over the swagger of george bush any day.
...I was always a DeadHead, but when I first heard Winston Rodney, aka the Burning Spear, sing, I became a SpearHead too!
I've got to second that one. A big reason why the middle east hates us as mush as they do is due to the arrogance this country has had for many years. We are a very close minded country. We embrace democracy, but only our own. "Mutual" respect is something unheard of in past administrations (That goes past Bush) and is the kind of new direction this country needs.