Obama's speech in Egypt

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  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Regarding Obama's speech..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxt9HwfPwPo

    "Who needs enemies when you have friends like these" - as one comment suggested.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    NoK wrote:
    Funny.. I just read the whole speech and not once does he apologize.
    maybe you should take you head out of your ass.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    prfctlefts wrote:
    maybe you should take you head out of your ass.

    Nice. This kind of attitude seems to be the norm on the board these days.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    NoK wrote:
    Regarding Obama's speech..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxt9HwfPwPo

    "Who needs enemies when you have friends like these" - as one comment suggested.

    :lol::lol::lol: Well maybe Obama should have gone to Isreal. Id be pissed to.
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    prfctlefts wrote:
    NoK wrote:
    Regarding Obama's speech..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxt9HwfPwPo

    "Who needs enemies when you have friends like these" - as one comment suggested.

    :lol::lol::lol: Well maybe Obama should have gone to Isreal. Id be pissed to.

    Keep laughing its only a matter of time till the mods get to your post ;)
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Oh so let me get this straight you can voice your opinion and other people cant ? get a life dude. By the way your the one that posted a link with racial slurs not me.
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Oh so let me get this straight you can voice your opinion and other people cant ? get a life dude. By the way your the one that posted a link with racial slurs not me.

    Are you backing off now?

    I was referring to this:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    maybe you should take you head out of your ass.

    Yes I posted a link showing the reactions of some Israeli-Americans towards the speech. I believe you were the one who condoned such reactions by stating "Obama should visit Israel and that you would be pissed off too" and not to forget you laughing at the link.

    Do you have anything else to add?
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    NoK wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Oh so let me get this straight you can voice your opinion and other people cant ? get a life dude. By the way your the one that posted a link with racial slurs not me.

    Are you backing off now?

    I was referring to this:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    maybe you should take you head out of your ass.

    Yes I posted a link showing the reactions of some Israeli-Americans towards the speech. I believe you were the one who condoned such reactions by stating "Obama should visit Israel and that you would be pissed off too" and not to forget you laughing at the link.

    Do you have anything else to add?

    ok I'll apologize but maybe you should go back and read some of your comments.
    I never said I condoned anything I just said Id be pissed to. and yeah it is funny cos if any one thinks there going to get any thing but that from kids like that they are highly mistaken. drunks talking about politics is always humorous to me
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    prfctlefts wrote:
    ok I'll apologize but maybe you should go back and read some of your comments.
    I never said I condoned anything I just said Id be pissed to. and yeah it is funny cos if any one thinks there going to get any thing but that from kids like that they are highly mistaken. drunks talking about politics is always humorous to me

    I went back and looked at my comments in this thread and I didn't find anything offensive in them. If you did refer me to the specific post.

    These are people whom you Americans have supported for over half a century, through money, UN resolution veto, you name it. Americans have many times taken a largely negative response from the world to ensure they are happy and this is what your president gets in return. Regardless whether they agree with him or not or whether you agree with him or not, I think they should be thanking you guys for your continuous support. As an American you should not find it funny.
  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    NoK wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I give him a C
    He's in considerable conflict with himself and He's still apologizing for America how many more times do we have to listen to this ? IMO this is fundamentally misleading

    A word of advice, when you criticize everything a person does from the little to the big its hard to take your opinion seriously. Nevertheless, you are entitled to one.

    Unless its Bush or any Rep. then its fine?
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    NoK wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I give him a C
    He's in considerable conflict with himself and He's still apologizing for America how many more times do we have to listen to this ? IMO this is fundamentally misleading

    A word of advice, when you criticize everything a person does from the little to the big its hard to take your opinion seriously. Nevertheless, you are entitled to one.

    Unless its Bush or any Rep. then its fine?
    few things that matter in life have anything whatsoever to do with the partisan debate. it may be the most pointless waste of time i can think of. we live in a pseudo democracy, a 1 party system. as it is, nothing of value can be gained from entering into the partisan debate, or to play the partisan game. its all wool over the eyes. the fundamentals never change. a 1 party militant/capitalist class always wins the game.

    we should be critical of our government, but disagreeing with everything Obama says or does, on the grounds he is a democrat, is a bit ridiculous, even if so far he has been just like all the other politicians to roll through Washington.

    I wasn't disagreeing with Bush because he was a republican i was disagreeing with him because he is a mass murderer and had little respect for the environment. he was douchebag, not because of the R next to his name, but because he really was a douchebag. he gave us a lot to be critical of.

    its harder now, outside of Fox, to be critical of Obama, even inside of Fox its hard, because they don't even know what he's doing wrong, or are failing to tell us. they just know he is a Democrat, and that's enough for them. but everywhere else you go he's a hero to a lot of people, which can be very dangerous. he is a good speaker, and gives a lot of hope. but so far his policies and his rhetoric are pretty dissimilar, about par for Washington. inside mainstream US media channels no one really has any clue as to what he's up to. that's where the partisan debate leaves us without a few minor details, annoying things like facts and reality.



    "look what he did-he's bad" isn't really good enough. that's obvious. who what why when-all still very important.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    I see your point but would you feel the same if it were bush they were talking about ?
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I see your point but would you feel the same if it were bush they were talking about ?





    I would now, but at the time probably not.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Perhaps we should concentrate on practicing all of these fundamental ideologies at home before preaching them to others. Equality, human rights and democracy are wonderful but if we don't practice them and hypocritically challenge others to, what does that makes us? Also, the nuclear issue is a joke - we pick and choose who can hold them yet won't make across the board concessions for everyone's benefit and safety. Speeches are great, but actions are what counts and we show no real substantial actions to back these high-horse comments from our leader.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Perhaps we should concentrate on practicing all of these fundamental ideologies at home before preaching them to others. Equality, human rights and democracy are wonderful but if we don't practice them and hypocritically challenge others to, what does that makes us? Also, the nuclear issue is a joke - we pick and choose who can hold them yet won't make across the board concessions for everyone's benefit and safety. Speeches are great, but actions are what counts and we show no real substantial actions to back these high-horse comments from our leader.
    i think if his policies ever match his rhetoric we might get somewhere.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I agree, and if my mom had balls, she's be my dad :D
    Kotov Syndrome wrote:
    i think if his policies ever match his rhetoric we might get somewhere.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    FiveB247x wrote:
    I agree, and if my mom had balls, she's be my dad :D
    Kotov Syndrome wrote:
    i think if his policies ever match his rhetoric we might get somewhere.
    lol. right.


    maybe some day.
  • spearhead
    spearhead Posts: 600
    prfctlefts wrote:
    NoK wrote:
    He has bigger balls than any other president on this matter. Call me a pessimist/realist but I doubt it will change much.

    Bigger balls than who ? Bush ? why just because he went to egypt to kiss the asses of abunch of Muslims He's got balls yeah right :roll:


    Is THIS what you mean by kissing the ass of Muslims:

    I have come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.
    ...how much of the speech did you actually watch or read?

    If so ... you couldn't be more wrong. I'll take this approach over the swagger of george bush any day.
    I was alone and far away when I heard the band start playing!

    ...I was always a DeadHead, but when I first heard Winston Rodney, aka the Burning Spear, sing, I became a SpearHead too!
  • Sleep.With.Innocence
    Sleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    spearhead wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    NoK wrote:
    He has bigger balls than any other president on this matter. Call me a pessimist/realist but I doubt it will change much.

    Bigger balls than who ? Bush ? why just because he went to egypt to kiss the asses of abunch of Muslims He's got balls yeah right :roll:


    Is THIS what you mean by kissing the ass of Muslims:

    I have come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.
    ...how much of the speech did you actually watch or read?

    If so ... you couldn't be more wrong. I'll take this approach over the swagger of george bush any day.

    I've got to second that one. A big reason why the middle east hates us as mush as they do is due to the arrogance this country has had for many years. We are a very close minded country. We embrace democracy, but only our own. "Mutual" respect is something unheard of in past administrations (That goes past Bush) and is the kind of new direction this country needs.

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