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Gear observations from Conan

mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Posts: 6,395
edited August 2009 in Musicians and Gearheads
Let's take a left-to-right approach...

Mike: Is it just me, or was that Stone's old Savage amp? I think the other one was his Fender Bassman RI.

Jeff: His Marshall head from the last tour, plus an Ashdown head and the other one looked like a newer Eden...? Same orange-tolex Ampeg cabs as last couple tours.

Matt: A Yamaha kit still, but I don't recognize it... wooden hoops that remind me of his old Ayotte kits.

Stone: A Vox lover all of a sudden? What looked like a Super Beetle amp, a white-tolex AC30, and a Marshall head over Marshall 4x12. I was disappointed in the mix, I didn't feel like I heard a lot of Stone.

The pedalboards looked HUGE for some reason... and I don't think I saw any pedals in Jeff's normal spot, maybe he's going back to basics? Or just for the taping?
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  • xtremehardy388xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    Mike: Still using that LP Jr. I also noticed the Savage. Interesting tone.

    Jeff: Nothing stood out other than the Marshall head.

    Stone: Noticed the Vox, also.

    Matt: Same kit but with stuff added, it seemed.

    I also thought the boards were a bit bigger but I thought I saw Jeff's usual board. I tried to see if any pedals were new but I couldn't see too much. I thought the mixing was horrible. I couldn't hear Eddie's voice but, and I'm ready to get a lot of flak, seemed like Eddie's voice was almost lacking. I was kinda disappointed with the song...but maybe the other tracks will blow me away.
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    I think its weird that matt changed hit kit liked that. Alot of people wanted him to bring his old kit back and all he did was make his Yamaha look like his old kit. I think the band reads the message boards. Maybe he did that because he has a contract with Yamaha and can't switch.
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  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    that's not stone's savage...it's mike's blitz 50...he was using it on the 08 tour, however it was side stage instead of on the stage, his tech donnie was controlling that amp for the most part.

    the boards did in fact look bigger, wish i could've made out what was on there...

    stone rockin' the heritage ac30 = nice!
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  • IGotShit76IGotShit76 Posts: 768
    To all the guitar jedi masters on the board, since I'm only a guitar padawan ...
    So it seems that Mike and Stone are both using two amps. Do they combine their two amps together to get their sound or do they switch from one to another (clean / dirty) ?
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    IGotShit-76 wrote:
    To all the guitar jedi masters on the board, since I'm only a guitar padawan ...
    So it seems that Mike and Stone are both using two amps. Do they combine their two amps together to get their sound or do they switch from one to another (clean / dirty) ?


    a little bit of both.

    Since the dawning of pearl jam - stone has always had a volume pedal that would blend both sounds if he wanted or cut 1 out completely and use the other via ABY/ABCY switches etc.

    If I were to make an educated guess as for what amp stone was using and when: During the verse, Stone would be on the Vox stack channel, and when it got a little dirtier, combine it with the heritage ac30 (the white combo), then combine it with the marshall for the chorus parts.

    Mike however seems to just use one or the other....bassman for his cleans and the savage for his dirty, however I believe he has a VHT preamp in his rack so any combination of the 3.

    But to generalize your question, the use either one, or blend em all.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    I think its weird that matt changed hit kit liked that. Alot of people wanted him to bring his old kit back and all he did was make his Yamaha look like his old kit. I think the band reads the message boards. Maybe he did that because he has a contract with Yamaha and can't switch.


    I think you're right. I think he just said to Yamaha "I like my Ayottes but you pay me a lot, so make me your version of Ayottes".


    I don't know anything about the amps, but what happened to their "Matchless" head? I remember that when I saw them in 96 I believe, but not so much recently. I'm assuming they're all still using tube amps for everyone?
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  • xtremehardy388xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    I think Eddie stopped using that a few tours ago. I know in 2006, he was using the three Fenders, in front of Matt's kit.
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  • IGotShit76IGotShit76 Posts: 768
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    IGotShit-76 wrote:
    To all the guitar jedi masters on the board, since I'm only a guitar padawan ...
    So it seems that Mike and Stone are both using two amps. Do they combine their two amps together to get their sound or do they switch from one to another (clean / dirty) ?


    a little bit of both.

    Since the dawning of pearl jam - stone has always had a volume pedal that would blend both sounds if he wanted or cut 1 out completely and use the other via ABY/ABCY switches etc.

    If I were to make an educated guess as for what amp stone was using and when: During the verse, Stone would be on the Vox stack channel, and when it got a little dirtier, combine it with the heritage ac30 (the white combo), then combine it with the marshall for the chorus parts.

    Mike however seems to just use one or the other....bassman for his cleans and the savage for his dirty, however I believe he has a VHT preamp in his rack so any combination of the 3.

    But to generalize your question, the use either one, or blend em all.

    Thanks for the explanation ... and I just noticed that Stone was using 3 amps instead of 2 !!! That's getting too complicated for me. :D
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    xtremehardy388 wrote:
    I think Eddie stopped using that a few tours ago. I know in 2006, he was using the three Fenders, in front of Matt's kit.


    if you're referring to the matchless, eddie never used matchless heads but used Hiwatt.

    I believe Stone was rockin' the matchless a few years back once again
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  • xtremehardy388xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    Yeah, you're right. I was thinking Stone, Sorry
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  • ScrapeMySkyScrapeMySky Posts: 426
    Three things stood out for me. First, I haven't seen the Mashall in Jeff's setup before. (Looks a LOT like a Murder One Reissue to me...) The Ashdown EVO II looked familiar, though. The second thing that surprised me a little was the Vox halfstack that Ed played on RITFW. When did he abandon his Fenders? And what almost knocked me off my chair was the Marshall halfstack in Sone's setup. Looked like some JCM. When did he bring that back? So, either they changed quite a bit for this show or i missed a lot of gear history since I last saw them in 2007...
  • xtremehardy388xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    Ed played RITFW? Am I missing something?
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  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    jeff most definately had the marshall and the VH1 show last summer where they did The Real Me/Love Reign O'er Me.

    And yes, it appears as if that vox half stack is Ed's - which would leave Stone playing the heritage ac30 and marshall half stack

    PJ played RITFW after the show ended at Conan - it was filmed and it's on the tonight show website. Ed played guitar on it (i hope that's not the new trend for that song...i'd rather him bashing tambourines and falling and tripping over monitors while he's completely plastered)
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  • ScrapeMySkyScrapeMySky Posts: 426
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    (i hope that's not the new trend for that song...i'd rather him bashing tambourines and falling and tripping over monitors while he's completely plastered)

    That's what I was thinking. On the other hand, that probably wouldn't have made a very good impression on an unsuspecting TV audience... :)
  • xtremehardy388xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    Can't find a video of it. on youtube, it says I'm blocked from seeing it in my country (USA)
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  • IGotShit76IGotShit76 Posts: 768
    xtremehardy388 wrote:
    Can't find a video of it. on youtube, it says I'm blocked from seeing it in my country (USA)

    Check rapidshare link on page 10 of this thread.
    http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=100397&start=135
  • xtremehardy388xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    Much appreciated. Thank you.
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  • MichaelMcKevinMichaelMcKevin Posts: 1,161
    Hopefully I can add a little on the Matt subject...

    As far as the specs of his new kit, his toms are notedly shallower. Looks like 7x12, 8x13, and possibly 13x16 floor tom. His bass is wayy shallower as well. Maybe 16x24 I dunno... not very good at guessing sizes.

    My guess is that he's switched from birch to maple, mainly because he's drastically decreased the depth of all his drums. Birch offers a higher fundamental pitch and more attack with lots of focus. Using shallower drums adds focus and attack as well, so I don't think he wanted even more of those qualities from his birch kit. He probably switched to maple and changed the sizes to get back some of what he liked about his birch kit. Kind of hybridizing the qualities of both woods if you will.

    Up until now, he's used birch and he still might. Soundwise... if birch is what you're looking for, no one does it better than Yamaha. If he wants this kit to remind of his old Ayotte, I think it's more for looks. Can't imagine him being any sort of dissatisfied with the Yamaha kit. I'm personally not a huge fan of the black with wood hoops look, but to each his own. I thought his natural kit was amazing.
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  • DM39895DM39895 Posts: 1
    Matt's new kit is comprised of Yamaha Oak drums, which are pretty different from maple or birch, and are a lot louder than either. I think sizes are the same as the birch kit, but the hoops make them look different. One curious difference is that he is using pinstripe heads, which deaden the sound somewhat. He's definitely using more cymbals, and for the most part they look smaller. The snare in a lot of the new pics has looked like a hammered brass, bronze or copper Yamaha, but I think I saw a Keplinger in one of the pics from the tour.
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