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worldworld Posts: 266
edited June 2009 in The Porch
Hypothetically speaking ;)

If I were to find a MP3 of the live performance last night and put it on my iPhone, to listen through my aux jack in my car and rock the fuck out after work, would that qualify as stealing Pearl Jams art?

Since I didnt get consent from either Pearl Jam, NBC, Target, or Conan should I be sued?

hypothetically speaking
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  • ARazorbackguy1ARazorbackguy1 Posts: 456
    Hmmmm, only if you sell it right?
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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    No. As long as you buy the album!
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Seriously?
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  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    As long as you dont distribute it I think it would be okay.
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  • MarieowMarieow San Francisco Posts: 98
    Don't worry dude, I think you'll be cool. It's kinda like how PJ gives the ok to bootleg and trade music from their shows. It's about the same thing. :)
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  • Back_PedalBack_Pedal Posts: 1,171
    I have the performance saved on my DVR, and I watched it again after it aired. Am I stealing?
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  • ChampagneBreakfast4EveryoneChampagneBreakfast4Everyone Posts: 215
    nah, the police are on their way to your house as we speak. Your fucked dude. Run.
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  • mrshock13mrshock13 Posts: 472
    Back_Pedal wrote:
    I have the performance saved on my DVR, and I watched it again after it aired. Am I stealing?

    Not really. I found an alternate means for the download, and I've been playing "Got Some" on my Ipod all day. I think my ipod will start getting mad at me, because I have something like 150 PJ songs on it, and just added another one.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Back_Pedal wrote:
    I have the performance saved on my DVR, and I watched it again after it aired. Am I stealing?

    That's fair use. Transfering it to your car might technically not be legal, but as long as you're not distributing it to the internet world, nobody's going to give a second thought.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    just don't let NBC hear your messing with their content....they had youtube delete my account cuz i posted the performance last night :evil:

    hey big bad peacock...i just put the clip on my ipod....come and get me :roll: :lol::mrgreen:
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    norm wrote:
    just don't let NBC hear your messing with their content....they had youtube delete my account cuz i posted the performance last night :evil:

    hey big bad peacock...i just put the clip on my ipod....come and get me :roll: :lol::mrgreen:
    you serious norm. That's fucked up
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  • OGT92OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    Just don't blast it or you will be charged for public display and performance.
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    norm wrote:
    just don't let NBC hear your messing with their content....they had youtube delete my account cuz i posted the performance last night :evil:

    hey big bad peacock...i just put the clip on my ipod....come and get me :roll: :lol::mrgreen:

    I knew they were aggresive about their content (jsut try and find SNL clips on youtube) ... but, asking your account to be deleted? yikes.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    jimed14 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    just don't let NBC hear your messing with their content....they had youtube delete my account cuz i posted the performance last night :evil:

    hey big bad peacock...i just put the clip on my ipod....come and get me :roll: :lol::mrgreen:
    metsfan wrote:
    you serious norm. That's fucked up

    I knew they were aggresive about their content (jsut try and find SNL clips on youtube) ... but, asking your account to be deleted? yikes.


    bout 3 o'clock today i went to watch it again and i was logged out which rarely am and i login and it said my account has been permanently removed

    seriously, nbc deserves to be in last place....they couldn't run a bath....leno 5 nights a week?? genius!! :roll:
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    norm wrote:

    I knew they were aggresive about their content (jsut try and find SNL clips on youtube) ... but, asking your account to be deleted? yikes.


    bout 3 o'clock today i went to watch it again and i was logged out which rarely am and i login and it said my account has been permanently removed

    seriously, nbc deserves to be in last place....they couldn't run a bath....leno 5 nights a week?? genius!! :roll:
    haha nice dig at nbc. hey they gotta find something to put in for the 10 o'clock hour.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    metsfan wrote:
    haha nice dig at nbc. hey they gotta find something to put in for the 10 o'clock hour.

    i'd be happy the law and order every night at 10 :D

    and i haven't like leno since like 1987 so his new deal was always a joke in my eyes ;)
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    norm wrote:

    i'd be happy the law and order every night at 10 :D

    and i haven't like leno since like 1987 so his new deal was always a joke in my eyes ;)
    only if its svu. i never liked leno. i was always a fan of conan.
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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    Yes, hypothetically it is stealing. No matter how you justify it to yourself. ;)
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    world wrote:
    Hypothetically speaking ;)

    If I were to find a MP3 of the live performance last night and put it on my iPhone, to listen through my aux jack in my car and rock the fuck out after work, would that qualify as stealing Pearl Jams art?

    Since I didnt get consent from either Pearl Jam, NBC, Target, or Conan should I be sued?

    hypothetically speaking
    ...
    Ever hear that legal waiver that they say at EVERY televised sporting event? You know, about the rebroadcast without the expressed written consent of the (NFL,NBA,NHL, Major League Baseball, etc...) is strictly prohibited? Same thing applies.
    You can play it as many times as you like... but, you cannot play it in your bar or restaurant or any public viewing and you cannot post it on the Internet (public viewing) or sell it.
    ...
    Hypothetically speaking.
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  • drebin76drebin76 Posts: 5
    OGT92 wrote:
    Just don't blast it or you will be charged for public display and performance.

    I would actually say if you blast it, it shouldn't be considered stealing... It would be more of a Public Service...
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    norm wrote:
    jimed14 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    just don't let NBC hear your messing with their content....they had youtube delete my account cuz i posted the performance last night :evil:

    hey big bad peacock...i just put the clip on my ipod....come and get me :roll: :lol::mrgreen:
    metsfan wrote:
    you serious norm. That's fucked up

    I knew they were aggresive about their content (jsut try and find SNL clips on youtube) ... but, asking your account to be deleted? yikes.


    bout 3 o'clock today i went to watch it again and i was logged out which rarely am and i login and it said my account has been permanently removed

    seriously, nbc deserves to be in last place....they couldn't run a bath....leno 5 nights a week?? genius!! :roll:
    well said...
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  • LiteTheMatchLiteTheMatch Posts: 1,208
    If you find a dollar on the ground and spend it, is that stealing?
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