Cheney Admits: No IRAQ/9-11 Link

sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
edited June 2009 in A Moving Train
surprised this isn't up yet, as obvious as it seemed to most rational people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/0 ... 10145.html

In an interview with Fox News' Greta van Susteren, former Vice President Dick Cheney admitted that there is no evidence that Iraq was involved in the September 11th attacks.

"On the question of whether or not Iraq was involved in 9-11, there was never any evidence to prove that," he told the "On The Record" host in a joint interview with his daughter Liz. "There was "some reporting early on ... but that was never borne out," Cheney said. "George ... did say and did testify that there was an ongoing relationship between al-Qaeda and Iraq, but no proof that Iraq was involved in 9-11."


Asked in 2004 if Iraq was involved in the attacks, Cheney was less clear, telling CNBC, "We don't know." He criticized the "irresponsible" media for reporting that there were no links between al-Qaeda and Iraq. "There clearly was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming," Cheney said. In other interviews around that time, Cheney was similarly vague, suggesting that the link could exist. President Bush repeatedly encouraged a false connection between Iraq and the attacks, although he later claimed to have only said there was a "relationship" between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

Liz Cheney complimented Obama's family, and said that she hoped he would "talk about democracy and I hope he'll also talk about women's rights" on his trip to Egypt. Asked if President Obama was "soft," Dick Cheney responded, "I can't say that. I think he's still learning."
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,566
    Well i'll be damned.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Listen or watch a brilliant Cheney in 1993 on the quagmire Iraq would be...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MePwb6TEk

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    so then are we suppose to believe him that his enhance interrogations worked or that Obama is making us less safe
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    g under p wrote:
    Listen or watch a brilliant Cheney in 1993 on the quagmire Iraq would be...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MePwb6TEk

    Peace

    I've seen this before and he is 110% correct. o why didn't he take his own advice just 10 short years later :(
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    jlew24asu wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Listen or watch a brilliant Cheney in 1993 on the quagmire Iraq would be...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MePwb6TEk

    Peace

    I've seen this before and he is 110% correct. o why didn't he take his own advice just 10 short years later :(

    HALIBURTON....and ALL the riches that came with that contract which made him multi multi millionaire quickly changed his mind.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,349
    It's about fucking time he finally admitted it.
    It's nice to be nice to the nice.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    "George ... did say and did testify that there was an ongoing relationship between al-Qaeda and Iraq, but no proof that Iraq was involved in 9-11."


    He criticized the "irresponsible" media for reporting that there were no links between al-Qaeda and Iraq. "There clearly was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming," Cheney said.

    So he continues to lie.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    the issue here is that we all knew there was no link ... but pre-iraq - what percentage of people thought there was a link? ... stupidity? ... doubt it - more like a crafted PR campaign that opened the doors to a increase in military and related spending never seen before ...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    g under p wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Listen or watch a brilliant Cheney in 1993 on the quagmire Iraq would be...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MePwb6TEk

    Peace

    I've seen this before and he is 110% correct. o why didn't he take his own advice just 10 short years later :(

    HALIBURTON....and ALL the riches that came with that contract which made him multi multi millionaire quickly changed his mind.

    Peace

    Cheney wasn't paid by Haliburton. Cheney didnt make a dime. and if you tell me stock, HAL is about the same price it was 10 years ago

    http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:HAL
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Cheney wasn't paid by Haliburton. Cheney didnt make a dime. and if you tell me stock, HAL is about the same price it was 10 years ago

    http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:HAL

    dude ... look at your chart at what it was in 2000 and then look at it just before he left office ... anyone would have cashed out by then ... especially one who knows what is gonna happen in foreign policy ...

    the guy gets into office and all of a sudden his former company gets all these no-bid contracts where they are basically robbing the american citizens for the services they provide in an unjust war (Iraq)? ...
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Cheney wasn't paid by Haliburton. Cheney didnt make a dime.

    No, of course he didn't:

    http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Chene ... _1011.html

    Cheney's Halliburton stock options rose 3,281% last year, senator finds


    'An analysis released by a Democratic senator found that Vice President Dick Cheney's Halliburton stock options have risen 3,281 percent in the last year, RAW STORY can reveal.

    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.


    “Halliburton has already raked in more than $20 billion from the Bush-Cheney Administration for work in Iraq, and they were awarded some of the first Katrina contracts," Lautenberg said in a statement. "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it. The Vice President should sever his financial ties to Halliburton once and for all.”

    Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of a no-bid contact in Iraq. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay.

    The Vice President has sought to stem criticism by signing an agreement to donate the after-tax profits from these stock options to charities of his choice, and his lawyer has said he will not take any tax deduction for the donations.

    However, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in Sept. 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest” regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest.

    Cheney told "Meet the Press" in 2003 that he didn't have any financial ties to the firm.

    “Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president, I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest," the Vice President said. "I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years.”

    Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. According to financial disclosure forms, he was paid $205,298 in 2001; $262,392 in 2002; $278,437 in 2003; and $294,852 in 2004.'
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.

    what an asshole
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what an asshole

    '..The Vice President has sought to stem criticism by signing an agreement to donate the after-tax profits from these stock options to charities of his choice, and his lawyer has said he will not take any tax deduction for the donations.

    However, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in Sept. 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest” regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest'
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.

    what an asshole

    it's too bad you don't think so because if there ever was one - it's him ... i relate cheney's pledge to OJ looking for nicole's killer ...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    polaris_x wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.

    what an asshole

    it's too bad you don't think so because if there ever was one - it's him ... i relate cheney's pledge to OJ looking for nicole's killer ...

    I do think Cheney is an asshole based on the youtube vid posted. but I dont believe he went to war in Iraq so he can personally profit.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2009
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what an asshole

    Seriously though Jlew, are you suggesting that Dick Cheney isn't an asshole?

    He's as bent as a $9 bill. What are these charities that he's talking about pledging money to? I wouldn't be surprised to learn if one of them was a charity for Dick Cheney's retirement.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what an asshole

    Seriously though Jlew, are you suggesting that Dick Cheney isn't an asshole?

    He's as bent as $9 bill. What are these charities that he's talking about pledging money to? I wouldn't be surprised to learn if one of them was a charity for Dick Cheney's retirement.

    I do think Cheney is an asshole based on the youtube vid posted. but I dont believe he went to war in Iraq so he can personally profit.


    keep up ;)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2009
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what an asshole

    Seriously though Jlew, are you suggesting that Dick Cheney isn't an asshole?

    He's as bent as $9 bill. What are these charities that he's talking about pledging money to? I wouldn't be surprised to learn if one of them was a charity for Dick Cheney's retirement.

    I do think Cheney is an asshole based on the youtube vid posted. but I dont believe he went to war in Iraq so he can personally profit.


    keep up ;)

    I don't think he contributed to the drive to go to war in Iraq solely to make a personal profit either, at least not in terms of financial profit. I suspect there were many reasons behind his warmongering, and lining his pockets and the pockets of his greed-head buddies was just one of them.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I do think Cheney is an asshole based on the youtube vid posted. but I dont believe he went to war in Iraq so he can personally profit.

    but he did and the company he was on the board of did massively ... and so did the companies rumsfeld had ties with and bush ... all just a coincidence?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    polaris_x wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I do think Cheney is an asshole based on the youtube vid posted. but I dont believe he went to war in Iraq so he can personally profit.

    but he did and the company he was on the board of did massively ... and so did the companies rumsfeld had ties with and bush ... all just a coincidence?

    all just typical politicking.

    haliburton is very good at what they do, there is good reason why they got those contracts. although I dont think no bid contracts are right.

    while HAL did profit, thats not the reason why bush and co went to war.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    while HAL did profit, thats not the reason why bush and co went to war.

    The reasons they went to war had been laid out at least 2 years prior to 9/11. The evidence is out there and available. There's no longer any dispute about it. 9/11 just gave them the green light they wanted - or in the words of PNAC, another Pearl Harbour to mobilize popular support.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    while HAL did profit, thats not the reason why bush and co went to war.

    The reasons they went to war had been laid out at least 2 years prior to 9/11. The evidence is out there and available. There's no longer any dispute about it. 9/11 just gave them the green light they wanted - or in the words of PNAC, another Pearl Harbour to mobilize popular support.

    the reasons we laid out since 1991.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    A little late to make amends now huh?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    jlew24asu wrote:
    all just typical politicking.

    haliburton is very good at what they do, there is good reason why they got those contracts. although I dont think no bid contracts are right.

    while HAL did profit, thats not the reason why bush and co went to war.

    what makes you think they are good at wha they do?

    http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/

    of course the source is biased but it's not like it's making stuff up - they provide links to legitimate news sources ...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    polaris_x wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    all just typical politicking.

    haliburton is very good at what they do, there is good reason why they got those contracts. although I dont think no bid contracts are right.

    while HAL did profit, thats not the reason why bush and co went to war.

    what makes you think they are good at wha they do?

    http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/

    of course the source is biased but it's not like it's making stuff up - they provide links to legitimate news sources ...

    you dont stay in business for almost 100 years and employ over 50,000 people if you are bad at what you do.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the reasons we laid out since 1991.

    That's just pure bullshit though and you know it. 'Iraq is a threat to our security'. 'Iraq has WMD's'. e.t.c. Give me a break.

    If Iraq's biggest export was turnips would America still have gone to all the trouble it did?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the reasons we laid out since 1991.

    That's just pure bullshit though and you know it. 'Iraq is a threat to our security'. 'Iraq has WMD's'. e.t.c. Give me a break.

    thats not pure bullshit. but I'm glad you think so. cheney/rummy/powell/bush 1 were all around in 91....after we were attacked, they figured they had a green light to finish the job.
    Byrnzie wrote:
    If Iraq's biggest export was turnips would America still have gone to all the trouble it did?

    no. and its no secret we are involved in Iraq because of Oil.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the reasons we laid out since 1991.

    That's just pure bullshit though and you know it. 'Iraq is a threat to our security'. 'Iraq has WMD's'. e.t.c. Give me a break.

    thats not pure bullshit. but I'm glad you think so. cheney/rummy/powell/bush 1 were all around in 91....after we were attacked, they figured they had a green light to finish the job.
    Byrnzie wrote:
    If Iraq's biggest export was turnips would America still have gone to all the trouble it did?

    no. and its no secret we are involved in Iraq because of Oil.

    And you see no contradiction in what you've just posted?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And you see no contradiction in what you've just posted?

    no. we are in the middle east to use (and have access to) Oil, not profit from it.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no. we are in the middle east to use (and have access to) Oil, not profit from it.

    No, of course not. The U.S power elites would never dream of exploiting another countries natural resources.
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