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Pearl Jam and doctoring sound of live album/boots?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,025
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So, KISS is pretty well known for having redone a large amount of the stuff on their ALIVE! and ALIVE II albums in studio afterwards, slapping on crowdnoise and calling it "live albums". 

What has Pearl Jam had to change, tweaked or tampered with afterwards?

I've heard that Do The Evolution from Live on Two Legs is made up of different live versions(?). 

And the official MTV Unplugged DVD-release replaced snippets of Eddies vocals on Oceans.

What else?
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    CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,990
    Lo2L DTE is from 7/13/98, The Forum, Inglewood, California.  
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,025
    edited April 2018
    CopperTom said:
    Lo2L DTE is from 7/13/98, The Forum, Inglewood, California.  
    Sorry, maybe it was Evenflow.
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,065
    Ive listened to a shit load of PJ boots.  As far as I can tell there has been none to very little doctoring that I hear.  Seems they keep the bands fuck ups and Ed's vocals pretty real.
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    javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,136
    Abe Froman said:
    Ive listened to a shit load of PJ boots.  As far as I can tell there has been none to very little doctoring that I hear.  Seems they keep the bands fuck ups and Ed's vocals pretty real.
    Agreden, listened to lisbon 2000 the day before yesterday and Ed voice was real, and the recording includes lyrics mess-ups as Weller...
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    opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,093
    Occasionally they cut the encore break banter (or they used to) but other than that I haven't noticed anything
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    RiotAct10RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,612
    edited April 2018
    I think on LO2L they did a little bit of stuff, like Ed saying "that's an old song, this is a new song, its evolution baby,..." or "longest title in the pearl jam catolog..." may not be the intro used on those actual performances. According to Wikipedia, the only song credited to two shows is Even Flow. Perhaps you could find audiance boots to see exactley what they did there.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_on_Two_Legs
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    words seem so out of place.

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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    Alive on Live On Ten Legs is from Philly 4 in 2009 with second verse of the vocals lifted from another show.
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    When it comes to the bootlegs, they are really good about leaving them alone. However, I think it's best they "tidy up" compilations like LO2L or Let's Play 2. No need to listen to the band messing up over and over and over...
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    FWIW, I make compilations with self-made "Frankenstein" tracks all the time! I love listening to them and do so quite often.
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    Edved007Edved007 Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,020

    Only thing I can think of off the top of my head...because I was there and know... the Rio show in 15'.  They F'd up the intro to Oceans and had to restart, the boot just goes right into the "good" version.  Given it was the opener I'm sure it made that an easy choice.

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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    edited April 2018
    Live on 2 Legs.....”we’re makin up for lost time here. Thanks for waiting” is from 8/28/98 Camden.  The song it leads into, Off He Goes, is not. :lol:
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    Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,772
    edited April 2018
    RiotAct10 said:
    I think on LO2L they did a little bit of stuff, like Ed saying "that's an old song, this is a new song, its evolution baby,..." or "longest title in the pearl jam catolog..." may not be the intro used on those actual performances. According to Wikipedia, the only song credited to two shows is Even Flow. Perhaps you could find audiance boots to see exactley what they did there.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_on_Two_Legs


    I believe "that's an old song, this is a new song" refers to Jeremy, which was played before Evolution during the original show from which Evolution was taken from.

    I want to say Tenacious D (Jack Black and another) was the opener.


    And yes, the newer boots from at least 2010 and on...they cut out some of the crowd noise, but nothing where Eddie talks.


    Other than that, Edmonton 2011 has "Come Back" cut out due (we think) to the band being off...versions exist online. Interestingly enough, there was a horrible version of Satan's Bed from 2003 which made the boot.
    https://youtu.be/VPKcU8_5sbQ

    All nine playings of "Arc" are removed from official boots.
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,869
    I know I the VIC boot they removed/turned way down some horrible sceerching feedback on Hard To Imagine from all the audience boots and live performance.  Also they did a way better mix on the Soldier Field Vault than the previous FM boots.
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    TH113769TH113769 Posts: 436
    At Moline Eddie F'd up the start of Around the Bend and asked the crowd what the lyrics were and started over.  It is deleted from the boot.  What an amazing show though!!
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