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Should Pearl Jam have played with Guns n Roses & U2 back in 93

SeafraSeafra Dublin Ireland Posts: 44
edited April 2018 in The Porch
So folks I know abit back in the day..I recently read that Goldstein Guns n Roses former manager was put to work by Axl , Axl wanted to go on tour with Pearl Jam and U2 back in 1993..what if this could happen today ... would you like to see it happen?

Should Pearl Jam have played with Guns n Roses & U2 back in 93 119 votes

Yes
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No
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Don't know
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Could care less
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    wall232wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    No
    Today no but in 93 yes. 
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,648
    Today yes since they’re stable and professional. 

    In 93 tho when everyone besides Axl was on heroin probably not.  And he had his own issues obviously.  Not a good idea to have PJ tour with the circus back then. 
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    JV130312JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,415
    Yes
    Yes.  Would've been a ridiculous concert card.
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited April 2018
    No
    That's what I thought was great about PJ.
    I loved the dignity aspect of Pearl Jam, still do, as much as anything.  U2 was cool, but they didn't really need to hang out with U2 to get noticed.  And I agree that G&R we're too drugged out at the time.
    I Agree not then not now.

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    curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,303
    No
    Not then.
    Not now.
    No.
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    RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,362
    Could care less
    They didn't need Guns N' Roses then.
    They don't need Guns N' Roses now.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,261
    No
    Heeeeeell No! They already played the best triple bill ever at the Cow Palace.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,251
    No
    tbergs said:
    Heeeeeell No! They already played the best triple bill ever at the Cow Palace.
    Hell no seconded!
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    aurelgugusaurelgugus France & Luxembourg Posts: 499
    No
    Retrospectively, I think that PJ made the good choice regarding their career and that such a tour would have not bring an added-value.
    Soundgarden opened for GnR in Europe in 1992 and I don’t think that it had helped them to extend their fanbase or to sell more records.
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    BALLBOYBALLBOY Australia Posts: 1,005
    They did play with u2 in 1993 in Italy & as for playing with GNR if you have the super deluxe of Superunknown Chris Cornell said that what GNR were doing was what they had no way of following that
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    Kearn5yKearn5y Ireland Posts: 2,703
    Yes
    Almost had a heart attack when I read the heading on teletext 'GNR planned tour with Pearl Jam' (dont care about u20
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,955
    GN'R was a shit show back then due to all the drugs and Axl being Axl. Glad Pearl Jam stayed away from it.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,261
    Considering the onstage rant Axl would read from his teleprompter nightly on the UYI tour about U2, I have serious doubts about the veracity of a story that he wanted to tour with them.
    I call bullshit on Goldstein.

    And if GnR and U2 had agreed to tour together, Pearl Jam opting not to join them as the opening act would not have kiboshed the tour.

    I call double bullshit on Goldstein.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    It’s couldn’t care less. And that would be my vote. 
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,420
    No
    dankind said:
    It’s couldn’t care less. And that would be my vote. 
    Thank you. Now I don't have to be the bad guy :giggle:

    And no.  Never been a GNR fan.  U2/PJ would be awesome, though!
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,321
    Don't know
    It might of been cool as a one off event, but not as a tour.    PJ already took the fork in the road by '93 where they did their own thing, so it's not surprising to hear the band's manager decline it.    I imagine his job back then was a helluva lot of "no" :)   PJ was already big enough to do their own tours.  They were really big in '93.    As a one off event it would of been cool, but as a tour.    I think they needed to go about it on their own.

    If they did do it as a one off what order do they go in.  In my experience you want to go the most mellow to the hardest rockers.    GNR and PJ both rock pretty hard.  GNR was insanely big back then too.  I probably would of said U2, PJ, GNR, but there's no way U2 would be willing to play 1st.. lol.
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,208
    Could care less
    I was not quite one year old yet sooo....
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    jpdannabellejpdannabelle T. Posts: 838
    No
    I think Ed especially was trying to avoid the big stage and the attention. Don’t think he woud have fit in back then. Ed now, maybe. He seems more comfortable in his own skin. 
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    bonebone Posts: 498
    No
    At the time, I would have loved to have seen it, but it probably was the right choice in retrospect.  Eddie may have killed himself dealing with that hype train.  He had a hard enough time dealing with U2, throw in the GNR circus and it would have got nasty.  
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    Caught-A-Bolt-Of-LightningCaught-A-Bolt-Of-Lightning Posts: 1,332
    No
    They'd still be waiting for Axel to "be in the mood" to take the stage...at the first show of the tour....
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,357
    Could care less
    dankind said:
    It’s couldn’t care less. And that would be my vote. 
    ...and it's Axl - no "e."  :s
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    SeafraSeafra Dublin Ireland Posts: 44
    rummy said:
    dankind said:
    It’s couldn’t care less. And that would be my vote. 
    ...and it's Axl - no "e."  :s
    Oh sorry about the typo ..did you ever make a mistake ? Yeah ok

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    ConorKavanaghConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    Yes
    This thread has taken a real Gun N Roses-esque turn with people getting on each others' cases about shit like spelling mistakes. Cool tribute guys.
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    cblock77cblock77 Posts: 36
    No
    I'm guessing Goldstein is not recollecting his timeline accurately and there's context missing from his recount.

    I think the genesis of this story actually comes from May of 1992, not '93, when U2 brought Axl up on stage in Austria during the Zoo TV tour to do Knockin' on Heaven's Door. GnR had done the same stadium the night or two before. This would align with Goldstein saying Ten had just broke and Pearl Jam was getting huge. By 93, PJ had already wrapped up the Ten tour and working on Vs.

    PJ did do some summer '93 dates, and they even opened for U2 in Europe. So, PJ had no qualms about opening for 'bigger' bands even in '93. The issue was always Axl's conduct. By early 92, Gnr was already a mess. Axl was turning up late for gigs, reprimanding his audiences and cutting off shows early. PJ didn't need to associate themselves with that. They were doing fine. If anything, the concern was the band was getting too big too quickly. So a monster tour wouldn't have been something they'd been seeking at that point. Ask Metallica how much fun they had touring with Axl in '92.
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,648
    Love GNR.  Last dangerous rockband.  Love that they never gave a F.  Didnt matter to me because i never bought tickets :lol:   Nice to see them back tho.  They all got their stuff together and are taking a victory lap.  
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,655
    Option 5: Couldn't care less. ;)
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    PJForceofNaturePJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    No
    Never a big fan of GNR, so wouldn't have wanted to see them play with them.
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,869
    No
    Would never had worked, Axl was a n asshole who showed up late all the time and pretty much didn't give a shit about his fans at all.  I remember waiting two hours for the jag in 91.  Thank goodness they never had a chance to influence or contaminate Pearl Jam.
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    Would someone back in 1993 have believed that 25 years later all three would still be touring and filling stadiums.
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    mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    Don't know
    PJ and U2, absolutely. I'm not the biggest fan of Guns N' Roses so I couldn't care less about them. 
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