The winners list for this epic poll journey is actually going to be pretty boring, lol. Just another greatest hits list for the most part. I suppose I should have expected that, but I thought maybe, just maybe, the serious fans would have gone a slightly different way.
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The winners list for this epic poll journey is actually going to be pretty boring, lol. Just another greatest hits list for the most part. I suppose I should have expected that, but I thought maybe, just maybe, the serious fans would have gone a slightly different way.
I always scratch my head when people suggest that 'serious fans' should vote/want for things other than hits. Hey, you can certainly choose what you like...but for my two cents there is a reason many of these songs were hits. Maybe they stand out from the rest because they are better songs?
Does that mean I do not love Sad or Strangest Tribe? Hell no, those are awesome songs.
Why does saying you prefer a deep cut over the likes of Alive or Black make you any more 'serious' a fan?
The winners list for this epic poll journey is actually going to be pretty boring, lol. Just another greatest hits list for the most part. I suppose I should have expected that, but I thought maybe, just maybe, the serious fans would have gone a slightly different way.
I always scratch my head when people suggest that 'serious fans' should vote/want for things other than hits. Hey, you can certainly choose what you like...but for my two cents there is a reason many of these songs were hits. Maybe they stand out from the rest because they are better songs?
Does that mean I do not love Sad or Strangest Tribe? Hell no, those are awesome songs.
Why does saying you prefer a deep cut over the likes of Alive or Black make you any more 'serious' a fan?
She was saying that the more serious fans are here as opposed to some joe blow public poll. And that she was surprised, as some of us were, that there wasn't more diversity in the selections. All roads just led to mediocre city.(ok that last sentence may be my personal opinion.)
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Yeah, I get it if you don't like certain songs that much...but I think these polls show that the songs that are hits resonate with the fan club types also. (We are more likely know the rest of the catalog and (amazingly so) are more likely to clap for songs like Bee Girl....)
Yeah, I get it if you don't like certain songs that much...but I think these polls show that the songs that are hits resonate with the fan club types also. (We are more likely know the rest of the catalog and (amazingly so) are more likely to clap for songs like Bee Girl....)
I hear/like what you're saying but I'm not sure if I would be clapping for Bee Girl.
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Yeah, I get it if you don't like certain songs that much...but I think these polls show that the songs that are hits resonate with the fan club types also. (We are more likely know the rest of the catalog and (amazingly so) are more likely to clap for songs like Bee Girl....)
I hear/like what you're saying but I'm not sure if I would be clapping for Bee Girl.
I've seen it multiple times and clapped. I do not think it is a very good song.
In terms of a "non-hit" winning, maybe some some of you were referring to songs like Animal, Immortality, or SoLaT. Yes, they were semi-big but no where near as big as Black, Jeremy, Even Flow, Alive, Daughter, Corduroy, and Better Man.
The winners list for this epic poll journey is actually going to be pretty boring, lol. Just another greatest hits list for the most part. I suppose I should have expected that, but I thought maybe, just maybe, the serious fans would have gone a slightly different way.
I always scratch my head when people suggest that 'serious fans' should vote/want for things other than hits. Hey, you can certainly choose what you like...but for my two cents there is a reason many of these songs were hits. Maybe they stand out from the rest because they are better songs?
Does that mean I do not love Sad or Strangest Tribe? Hell no, those are awesome songs.
Why does saying you prefer a deep cut over the likes of Alive or Black make you any more 'serious' a fan?
Because casual fans never even heard of the deeper cuts so choosing those isn't even an option. I feel like "serious" fans are simply all aware of all the songs that weren't radio hits, and IMHO, those songs are often much better than the radio hits are (I do indeed think that is the case for PJ for the most part, so I am surprised that the majority of the serious fans here still choose the radio hits at the end of the day. I just would have thought otherwise, since they are all aware of how awesome the deeper cuts are. Obviously, they also think the radio hits are the superior songs... I happen to disagree more often than not, and no, it's not because I've got a hipster mindset, lol! ).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Imagine if Of The Earth had been studio recorded & on some release. I'd be the only one voting it off.
I'd be right there with you. Fine song but far from great.
I'd vote it off too. I think it's only okay.
I've never understood the love for it (but to each his/her own). It always seems so "harsh."
The entire bridge section with the tempo change is spectacular.
Just had a listen to what you are talking about. Reminds me of something...Led Zeppelin?
It's a great live song. That raw harsh edge that it has translates great live, if they do it right(like in Denver '14). I don't think it would be a good studio song for those same exact reasons. That being said I would probably vote it off, unless it was up against YL and Black. Then it would be OTE all the fucking way for the win.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Imagine if Of The Earth had been studio recorded & on some release. I'd be the only one voting it off.
I'd vote it off first round with you.
1998: Cleveland
2000: Cincinnati, Columbus
2003: Cleveland, Columbus
2004: Toledo
2006: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Gorge Night 1
2008: Washington D.C.
2009: Chicago Night 1, Seattle Night 1, Philadelphia Night 3, Philadelphia Night 4
2010: Columbus, Indianapolis, Cleveland
2011: Detroit EV, Chicago 1 EV
2012: Atlanta
2013: Chicago, Pittsburgh
2014: Cincinnati
Gotta say I'm surprised at the OTE responses. I thought it was the be all and end all of Pearl Jam songs around here.
I think much of the buzz comes from it being relatively new and rarely played in the US. So for many, those of us Ed refers to as "the serious collector", it's an important song to hear live. More about completing a collection than chasing the song because they love it. IMO
Gotta say I'm surprised at the OTE responses. I thought it was the be all and end all of Pearl Jam songs around here.
I think much of the buzz comes from it being relatively new and rarely played in the US. So for many, those of us Ed refers to as "the serious collector", it's an important song to hear live. More about completing a collection than chasing the song because they love it. IMO
I listen to the version recorded at TMR and it blows my head up. Love it. Sure, I would love to see it, but for me it is just a kick ass song. Rocks pretty damn hard at a time when much of what the band is putting out does not rock quite as hard.
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You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Hey, you can certainly choose what you like...but for my two cents there is a reason many of these songs were hits. Maybe they stand out from the rest because they are better songs?
Does that mean I do not love Sad or Strangest Tribe? Hell no, those are awesome songs.
Why does saying you prefer a deep cut over the likes of Alive or Black make you any more 'serious' a fan?
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
2000: Cincinnati, Columbus
2003: Cleveland, Columbus
2004: Toledo
2006: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Gorge Night 1
2008: Washington D.C.
2009: Chicago Night 1, Seattle Night 1, Philadelphia Night 3, Philadelphia Night 4
2010: Columbus, Indianapolis, Cleveland
2011: Detroit EV, Chicago 1 EV
2012: Atlanta
2013: Chicago, Pittsburgh
2014: Cincinnati
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I think much of the buzz comes from it being relatively new and rarely played in the US. So for many, those of us Ed refers to as "the serious collector", it's an important song to hear live. More about completing a collection than chasing the song because they love it. IMO
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.