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Memphis boot - audio issues ?

dpphotodpphoto Posts: 284
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Bought the Memphis mp3 and the audio seems muffled or echo-y. I would expect a boot to sound like a live recording but the quality seems worse than others for some reason. Anyone else notice it ?
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    I will listen tomorrow and report back. All the official shows sounding amazing to my ears so far.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited November 2014
    Muffled no, not to my ears, a noticeable echo, yes.

    That's an accurate sonic representation of what happened, there was definitely a delay in the room and an echo off the domed roof and back wall of that arena. I sat right in the middle of the lower bowl on Stone's side and heard it as it was happening, band to the right, echo off the back wall to the left. I noticed it initially during the warm up music (Down Boys by the Cars...awesome.) before they took the stage.

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    I'm pretty sure that domed roof is what causes the echo. There aren't any acoustical treatments, and certainly no championship banners to deaden that extra sound.

    I kinda like it.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    I hear it - listening to Why Go right now. Reminds me of the Pinkpop 92' show. Love it!
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    lotsalemonlotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,734

    Yes - the arena had a very pronounced echo.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    Listening back to the Memphis 2000 boot (same venue I think) - it doesn't sound the same. Perhaps a consequence of getting 'more crowd' into the mix on the new boot.
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Listening back to the Memphis 2000 boot (same venue I think) - it doesn't sound the same. Perhaps a consequence of getting 'more crowd' into the mix on the new boot.

    The Memphis 2000 show was at the Pyramid. was that where they held the 2014 show?
    I didn't notice any sound issues in 2000.

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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    lolobugg said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Listening back to the Memphis 2000 boot (same venue I think) - it doesn't sound the same. Perhaps a consequence of getting 'more crowd' into the mix on the new boot.

    The Memphis 2000 show was at the Pyramid. was that where they held the 2014 show?
    I didn't notice any sound issues in 2000.
    Ok, no I don't think they did. Different places.
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    MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    They played this year at the FedEx Forum
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited November 2014
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    2014 was at the FedEx Forum.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    the tiki bomb said:

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    2014 was at the FedEx Forum.

    Ok, same place. Different mixes. I don't think either sound bad at all.
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    JedJed New York City Posts: 1,138
    If you listen to Stockholm or maybe Oslo, I think there is the same effect from the sound bouncing off the back wall and ceiling. It's live so there's not much that can be done.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited November 2014
    the tiki bomb said:



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    Fed Ex Forum is this place. The other place is the Pyramid.

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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    Fuck, I'm so confused! Hahaha!! =))
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    MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Fuck, I'm so confused! Hahaha!! =))

    :))
    Two different places:
    2000 - The Pyramid
    2014 - Fedex Forum
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    MedozK said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Fuck, I'm so confused! Hahaha!! =))

    :))
    Two different places:
    2000 - The Pyramid
    2014 - Fedex Forum
    :-B Feeling more educated! Thanks all! I'm almost finished with the Lincoln boot - Memphis on deck.
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    dpphotodpphoto Posts: 284
    Thanks everyone. Exactly what I'm hearing. Thanks for the responses and confirming I am not going deaf or crazy.
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    BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,344
    I had a similar question about the recording of this show when I listened to it in my car a couple of weeks ago on PJRadio....... I think it's unfortunate, similar to - but different from - the unfortunate feeling I had when I heard the drum-heavy 2008 MSG bootleg.
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    mcrokmcrok Posts: 628
    I was on the floor, center in the back of the pit. The recording is just an accurate representation of what the arena sounded like. Fedex Forum website goes on about all the acoustic treatments they have but there are not enough, obviously. Was it horrible? no Was it what I expected? no. I was really enthusiastic about the show until the last 5-6 songs and I was pretty much done listening to it....this is both the boot and the live show. All popular stuff with the echo did me in. Band rocked it out tho...with ev sick and all...but i really really prefer better acoustics...obviously the band likes better sounding rooms too...for obvious reasons
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,526
    i just listen that..there is a strange noise behind the music and the voice..like theres another song play..i can't explain better..i notice that on ''wishlist'', clearer than the other songs..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,526
    i'm listening to ''black'' now, its sound horrible..
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    Hmm. I am not hearing the same thing guys. High bit-rate official mp3s of the show. Playback through iPod nano and my AT MH50s.
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,526
    It must be the echo..
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    pjradiopjradio Posts: 6,704
    "...Echoes, nobody hears"
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited November 2014
    This was an echo that everyone heard.

    I have the HD FLAC and I was there. It's not "horrible" or "muffled" or "unfortunate". It's what the building sounded like. If the echo wasn't there it would be inaccurate.
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,526
    the tiki bomb said:

    This was an echo that everyone heard.

    I have the HD FLAC and I was there. It doesn't "horrible" or "muffled" or "unfortunate". It's what the building sounded like. If the echo wasn't there it would be inaccurate.

    its just too annoyance for me..especially on slow songs..
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited November 2014
    So the sonic accuracy of the recording annoys you?
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,526
    edited November 2014
    the tiki bomb said:

    So the sonic accuracy of the recording annoys you?

    it wasn't annoy for you??..i wanna know your opinion..you were inside after all..
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Annoying? For me, not at all. If anything, and this is just my opinion, the echo it made it live-r and realer. You can choose to be annoyed, I suppose, but you shouldn't be annoyed with the "quality" of the recording. I certainly did not take issue with the echo while the concert was happening, I was too busy having a good time. As I said before, I noticed it and liked it.

    Everyplace you go, be it a high school gym, or a tiled bathroom, a hundred year old opera house, or the Fed Ex Forum (a 10 year old basketball arena) has an acoustic finger print. The organic interaction between the band and the building I thought was pretty awesome, again, just my opinion. It made their sound even bigger.

    I'm glad they didn't record Back Spacer there, but it was a loud assed three hour rock show in a semi-new building that was designed for ice hockey.

    They can't play every show at places like this..

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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,149
    Interesting because I thought ACL I has an open sounding echo to a lot of it, and that show was outside! More so on the vocals than anything else though. Doesn't seem as dialed in as last years boots- Jeff is no where near as heavy on this boot as he was in cvile IMO
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    ponytdponytd Nashville Posts: 653
    the tiki bomb said:



    I'm glad they didn't record Back Spacer there, but it was a loud assed three hour rock show in a semi-new building that was designed for ice hockey.


    NBA basketball, not hockey
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