Bought the Memphis mp3 and the audio seems muffled or echo-y. I would expect a boot to sound like a live recording but the quality seems worse than others for some reason. Anyone else notice it ?
Muffled no, not to my ears, a noticeable echo, yes.
That's an accurate sonic representation of what happened, there was definitely a delay in the room and an echo off the domed roof and back wall of that arena. I sat right in the middle of the lower bowl on Stone's side and heard it as it was happening, band to the right, echo off the back wall to the left. I noticed it initially during the warm up music (Down Boys by the Cars...awesome.) before they took the stage.
I'm pretty sure that domed roof is what causes the echo. There aren't any acoustical treatments, and certainly no championship banners to deaden that extra sound.
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Listening back to the Memphis 2000 boot (same venue I think) - it doesn't sound the same. Perhaps a consequence of getting 'more crowd' into the mix on the new boot.
Listening back to the Memphis 2000 boot (same venue I think) - it doesn't sound the same. Perhaps a consequence of getting 'more crowd' into the mix on the new boot.
The Memphis 2000 show was at the Pyramid. was that where they held the 2014 show? I didn't notice any sound issues in 2000.
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Listening back to the Memphis 2000 boot (same venue I think) - it doesn't sound the same. Perhaps a consequence of getting 'more crowd' into the mix on the new boot.
The Memphis 2000 show was at the Pyramid. was that where they held the 2014 show? I didn't notice any sound issues in 2000.
If you listen to Stockholm or maybe Oslo, I think there is the same effect from the sound bouncing off the back wall and ceiling. It's live so there's not much that can be done.
I had a similar question about the recording of this show when I listened to it in my car a couple of weeks ago on PJRadio....... I think it's unfortunate, similar to - but different from - the unfortunate feeling I had when I heard the drum-heavy 2008 MSG bootleg. Enjoy the music everyone
I was on the floor, center in the back of the pit. The recording is just an accurate representation of what the arena sounded like. Fedex Forum website goes on about all the acoustic treatments they have but there are not enough, obviously. Was it horrible? no Was it what I expected? no. I was really enthusiastic about the show until the last 5-6 songs and I was pretty much done listening to it....this is both the boot and the live show. All popular stuff with the echo did me in. Band rocked it out tho...with ev sick and all...but i really really prefer better acoustics...obviously the band likes better sounding rooms too...for obvious reasons
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i just listen that..there is a strange noise behind the music and the voice..like theres another song play..i can't explain better..i notice that on ''wishlist'', clearer than the other songs..
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I have the HD FLAC and I was there. It's not "horrible" or "muffled" or "unfortunate". It's what the building sounded like. If the echo wasn't there it would be inaccurate.
I have the HD FLAC and I was there. It doesn't "horrible" or "muffled" or "unfortunate". It's what the building sounded like. If the echo wasn't there it would be inaccurate.
its just too annoyance for me..especially on slow songs..
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Annoying? For me, not at all. If anything, and this is just my opinion, the echo it made it live-r and realer. You can choose to be annoyed, I suppose, but you shouldn't be annoyed with the "quality" of the recording. I certainly did not take issue with the echo while the concert was happening, I was too busy having a good time. As I said before, I noticed it and liked it.
Everyplace you go, be it a high school gym, or a tiled bathroom, a hundred year old opera house, or the Fed Ex Forum (a 10 year old basketball arena) has an acoustic finger print. The organic interaction between the band and the building I thought was pretty awesome, again, just my opinion. It made their sound even bigger.
I'm glad they didn't record Back Spacer there, but it was a loud assed three hour rock show in a semi-new building that was designed for ice hockey.
Interesting because I thought ACL I has an open sounding echo to a lot of it, and that show was outside! More so on the vocals than anything else though. Doesn't seem as dialed in as last years boots- Jeff is no where near as heavy on this boot as he was in cvile IMO
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That's an accurate sonic representation of what happened, there was definitely a delay in the room and an echo off the domed roof and back wall of that arena. I sat right in the middle of the lower bowl on Stone's side and heard it as it was happening, band to the right, echo off the back wall to the left. I noticed it initially during the warm up music (Down Boys by the Cars...awesome.) before they took the stage.
I'm pretty sure that domed roof is what causes the echo. There aren't any acoustical treatments, and certainly no championship banners to deaden that extra sound.
I kinda like it.
Yes - the arena had a very pronounced echo.
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I didn't notice any sound issues in 2000.
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2014 was at the FedEx Forum.
Two different places:
2000 - The Pyramid
2014 - Fedex Forum
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I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
I have the HD FLAC and I was there. It's not "horrible" or "muffled" or "unfortunate". It's what the building sounded like. If the echo wasn't there it would be inaccurate.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Everyplace you go, be it a high school gym, or a tiled bathroom, a hundred year old opera house, or the Fed Ex Forum (a 10 year old basketball arena) has an acoustic finger print. The organic interaction between the band and the building I thought was pretty awesome, again, just my opinion. It made their sound even bigger.
I'm glad they didn't record Back Spacer there, but it was a loud assed three hour rock show in a semi-new building that was designed for ice hockey.
They can't play every show at places like this..
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