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El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
edited July 2006 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/02/israel.soldier/index.html

New round of Gaza airstrikes launched
Israeli PM steps up pressure, vowing 'no one will go unpunished'

Sunday, July 2, 2006; Posted: 8:06 p.m. EDT (00:06 GMT)

GAZA CITY, Gaza (CNN) -- Israeli missiles targeted two buildings in Gaza early Monday, hours after Israel said it would step up its military operations until a young captured soldier is released.

CNN correspondent John Vause watched as a single missile flew over the roof on which he and his crew were standing in Gaza City; it slammed into a building a few blocks to the north, causing a powerful explosion.

The Israel Defense Forces and Palestinian sources said that al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades -- a military offshoot of Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement -- had offices in that building.

The IDF also said it launched a missile attack on "a weapons production and storage warehouse in Beit Hanoun."

Monday's strikes came a day after an attack on the empty offices of Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya and a week after militants affiliated with Hamas captured 19-year-old Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit during a raid inside Israel.

At the start of his weekly Cabinet meeting Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israeli security forces are under orders to do "all that is necessary" to bring about Shalit's return.

Olmert told his cabinet he had instructed the military "to intensify the force and activity of the IDF and the security elements in order to pursue these terrorists, those who send them, their ideologues and those who harbor them."

"No one will go unpunished," he said.


Saeb Erakat, an adviser to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, told CNN "more bombs are not going to bring the soldier back alive, nor will they resolve this complex situation. It will only add to the complexities."

Erakat and Abbas belong to the Fatah Party, which lost power to Hamas earlier this year. The Israeli offensive launched Wednesday includes the arrests of several members of the Palestinian government.

An Israeli helicopter gunship fired missiles on the building housing Haniya's offices in Gaza City early Sunday, and Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres told CNN the operation was carried out "to warn" Haniya.

"Either/or he is a government with all the responsibilities of a government, or it's a terroristic organization with all the consequences that stem from it," Peres said of Haniya on "Late Edition."

Israeli sources said Haniya's offices were being used by terrorists to plan attacks.

At the offices, Haniya said the attack was the product of "barbaric politics."

Abu Ubaida, spokesman for Hamas' militant wing, told the Reuters news agency, "If they continue with these attacks we will strike similar targets in the Zionist occupation which we have not targeted until now."

Ubaida later confirmed to CNN that he had issued the threat.

Two gunmen killed
Israeli Interior Minister Roni Bar-On told Israel Army Radio that Jerusalem was "tightening the pressure on Hamas."

"We want to ensure the fact that the kidnapped soldier would not be moved from the place we think he is in," Bar-On said.

"We wish to bring the soldier back home with minimum casualties, on our side and on the Palestinian side."

Israel launched two more airstrikes within an hour of the attack on Haniya's offices, both in or near the Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza, Palestinian sources said.

On Sunday evening, Israeli troops killed two Palestinian gunmen in clashes near the Gaza airport, the Israel Defense Forces and Palestinian sources said.

A day earlier, Israel Defense Forces clashed with Palestinian gunmen east of Khan Yunis, where Israeli intelligence officials say they suspect Shalit is being held.

Humanitarian aid allowed into Gaza
Israel opened two routes into Gaza on Sunday to allow for humanitarian aid to flow into the Palestinian territory, an Israeli army official said. (Watch as Palestinians struggle without basic necessities -- 2:45)

The Karni crossing in northern Gaza and a nearby fuel terminal at Nahal Oz were opened at midday to allow for the passage of food, medicine and fuel.

Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz said the Karni crossing would be open four days so trucks could carry humanitarian supplies into Gaza.

Olmert on Sunday called Shalit's captors "a bloodthirsty gang of terrorists who are causing us much suffering but who are mainly hurting the Palestinian population," according to a transcript posted on Olmert's Web site.

The prime minister said the military operation was not intended to hurt the Palestinian people, noting the opening of the Karni crossing.

He promised not to let the situation in Gaza -- where power has been sporadic since the Israelis bombed a power station, and where medical and food supplies are low -- devolve into a humanitarian crisis.

"We will do our utmost in this regard because we are not fighting the Palestinian population," he said.

Diplomatic efforts
Meanwhile, diplomatic efforts continued in an effort to secure the release of Shalit.

Abbas has been participating in the talks, and he was expected to meet Sunday in Gaza with the U.N. envoy to the Middle East, Alvero de Soto.

Omar Suleiman, head of the Egyptian Intelligence Services, was to arrive in Gaza as a mediator, Palestinian sources said.

Olmert spoke Sunday with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, "who telephoned in order to be updated on the situation in the Gaza Strip," Olmert's media adviser said in a written statement.

"She said that she was concerned by the deterioration in the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip and by the security situation."

Olmert told her that Israel had allowed 150 trucks carrying food and medical equipment to enter Gaza.

Three Palestinian militant groups have claimed responsibility for Shalit's abduction. Since Shalit's kidnapping, militants demanded that the Israeli government release Arab prisoners from Israeli jails. Israel rejected the request.

"We have no intention of capitulating to blackmail," Olmert said Sunday.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
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    binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Front page of the local paper here had stories of "Palestinian militants" firing rockets into somewhere....much later they mention no casualties...basically making it sound like the Palestinians are the ones attacking Israel, yet no one was injured and it really wasn't that big of a deal, not next to the Israeli offensive.

    Apparently the story about Israel's major offensive-with many casualties I'm sure-wasn't newsworthy enough.

    Athough if there is an agenda with media-as we know there is-this will reinforce the idea in many minds that the Palestinians are the bad guys.
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    binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    Commy wrote:
    Front page of the local paper here had stories of "Palestinian militants" firing rockets into somewhere....much later they mention no casualties...basically making it sound like the Palestinians are the ones attacking Israel, yet no one was injured and it really wasn't that big of a deal, not next to the Israeli offensive.

    Apparently the story about Israel's major offensive-with many casualties I'm sure-wasn't newsworthy enough.

    Athough if there is an agenda with media-as we know there is-this will reinforce the idea in many minds that the Palestinians are the bad guys.

    you mean like the agenda driven media that reports on the iraq war everyday?

    SAY IT AINT SO!!!!!!!!
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    El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    you mean like the agenda driven media that reports on the iraq war everyday?

    SAY IT AINT SO!!!!!!!!


    you mean the agenda driven media that isn't even allowed to show pics of coffins coming home (yet bush used some in his re-election ad)?

    you really think the media shows accurate coverage of iraq?

    but anyway, back to commy's point....?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    what goes around comes around.
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    Commy wrote:
    Front page of the local paper here had stories of "Palestinian militants" firing rockets into somewhere....much later they mention no casualties...basically making it sound like the Palestinians are the ones attacking Israel, yet no one was injured and it really wasn't that big of a deal, not next to the Israeli offensive.

    Apparently the story about Israel's major offensive-with many casualties I'm sure-wasn't newsworthy enough.

    Athough if there is an agenda with media-as we know there is-this will reinforce the idea in many minds that the Palestinians are the bad guys.

    on your scale of morality, palestinians shooting rockets indiscriminately at israeli towns and cities is ok, because by chance no one got hurt.
    israeli jets making sonic booms over gaza is an atrocity, because gazans need their sleep. ergo, palestinians can't be the bad guys. palestinians cannot have been the aggressors, because they're less competent at war.

    your temporal inversions, as always, never fail to impress me.
    somehow, israel is still the aggressor even though this incursion comes after a premeditated attack inside israel, and after a year of incessant rocket attacks- from a territory that had no settlements, no roadblocks, and a completely free and open international border.
    and your only defense for the rocket attacks will be "they haven't killed anyone, they haven't hurt anyone, so the israelis being shot at should just get used to them." they have killed several people in the past year, wounded more, and caused more trauma than you are capable of conceiving in anyone who isn't wearing a kaffiyeh.
    Anti Zionism is not Anti Semitism

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    El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    israeli jets making sonic booms over gaza is an atrocity, because gazans need their sleep. ergo, palestinians can't be the bad guys. palestinians cannot have been the aggressors, because they're less competent at war.


    you really think the worse of it is 'sonic booms over gaza'??
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    on your scale of morality, palestinians shooting rockets indiscriminately at israeli towns and cities is ok, because by chance no one got hurt.
    israeli jets making sonic booms over gaza is an atrocity, because gazans need their sleep. ergo, palestinians can't be the bad guys. palestinians cannot have been the aggressors, because they're less competent at war.

    your temporal inversions, as always, never fail to impress me.
    somehow, israel is still the aggressor even though this incursion comes after a premeditated attack inside israel, and after a year of incessant rocket attacks- from a territory that had no settlements, no roadblocks, and a completely free and open international border.
    and your only defense for the rocket attacks will be "they haven't killed anyone, they haven't hurt anyone, so the israelis being shot at should just get used to them." they have killed several people in the past year, wounded more, and caused more trauma than you are capable of conceiving in anyone who isn't wearing a kaffiyeh.

    You really can't judge me on a moral scale on this, not from what I've written anyway. Its a terrible thing, don't get me wrong-firing rockets into populated areas..

    The point I've made is that media give us a slanted view of reality, by making this act of a few individuals the headline, whereaas an Israeli offensive into Gaza apparently merits no mention. Again...to those who read the newspapers...millions of americans-it reinforces the idea that the palestinians are the bad guys, the instigators.


    As to the Israeli/Palestinian relationship...apparently you need a better picture of the reality of the situation. Israel has the Palestinians in a police state. They've built walls, separating the major villages...they've repeatedly sent armed forces into refugee camps and indiscriminately gunned down very poor and oppressed civilians. They've assisinated leaders....imprisoned thousands of political dissidents..bombed power facilities, factories, water treatment plants...name an atrocity, chances are the ISraeli's have done it at some point in the last few decades.

    For every Israeli civilian killed five Palestinians meet the same fate-according to many sources, including the UN I believe...add the constant US supplied tanks roaming Palstinian lands, the US supplied gunships firing into apartment buildings, the US suppplied guns and ammo being used to kill innocent kids throwing rocks or whatever...and the situation in Gaza and Israel doesn't seem so clear cut as media would have us believe.
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    PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Two words for the palestinians.



































    fuck em.
    Why go home

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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Two words for the palestinians.

    fuck em.


    Decency and tolerance not in you eh?
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