The Worst Movie Ever?

HesCalledDyer

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

dankind

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

Who Princess

hedonist said:

Who Princess said:

The only musical I've ever liked is Cabaret.  Almost all of the songs are performed onstage, so they fit the context of the story.

No Tommy or Quadrophenia?

"It's not a musical, it's a fucking o-per-a!"  (said in Keith Moon's voice)

I guess it depends on the definitions but I never think of those as musicals.  I love both albums but I didn't much like the Tommy movie.  A few scenes--Roger running on the beach singing I'm Free, the Sally Simpson segment--but that's about all.  It definitely hasn't held up well.  I like the Quad movie all right but it still doesn't seem like a musical.  Nobody breaks into song.  The music is used as the soundtrack.

I don't care about seeing either story enacted.  I've seen the band perform both live and I think that's the way they should be experienced.  The Quad tour a few years ago blew me away.  I don't think we'll ever get to see that again.

And yeah, your post reminded me that I liked Jesus Christ Superstar.

Otherwise, NO MUSICALS!

curmudgeoness

hedonist said:

Who Princess said:

The only musical I've ever liked is Cabaret.  Almost all of the songs are performed onstage, so they fit the context of the story.

No Tommy or Quadrophenia?

I've been a fan of The Who since earliest memory, and I think Tommy is a hot mess. My parents took me with them to see it when it was released -- I was, what, five years old?!? -- and it was not a pleasant experience.

No Coder

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

I like most of Fincher's work and loved Fight Club, but must admit to not having watched it in over 10 years, so not sure what I'd think now, but still think I would enjoy it - certainly wouldn't dislike it. I LOVED The Game and Se7en is a favourite of mine.

As for Nolan, I think he is a genius! Memento, Inception and Interstellar are all time great movies and his Batman Trillogy are the best Super hero movies by a long way for me - all of coarse in my opinion. Can't wait to see Dunkirk

tbergs

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

Oh man, you just named two of my favorite directors. I still haven't seen Fight Club, but I always loved the cinematography of a Fincher film. He uses the dark tones so well. Seven is one of my absolute favorites and Nolan's work on Batman was awesome. I loved Momento and got hooked on his films after that. Interstellar is fantastic. What I like about both of them is how you can rewatch their movies and pick up on things you didn't notice no matter how many times you've seen it. That's what I like about Tarantino as well.

Not to mention Fincher teamed up with two of my favorite artists, NIN and A Perfect Circle, to direct a couple videos and did a lot of great videos for several artists. How can you not like Fincher a little? The Social Network and Benjamin Buttons were great movies. Oh, and then there's The Game and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo!

tbergs

No Coder said:

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

I like most of Fincher's work and loved Fight Club, but must admit to not having watched it in over 10 years, so not sure what I'd think now, but still think I would enjoy it - certainly wouldn't dislike it. I LOVED The Game and Se7en is a favourite of mine.

As for Nolan, I think he is a genius! Memento, Inception and Interstellar are all time great movies and his Batman Trillogy are the best Super hero movies by a long way for me - all of coarse in my opinion. Can't wait to see Dunkirk

Agreed. Momento was amazing and something no one had done. I remember seeing it in an art house theater and being blown away. Then there was Inception. Nolan just rewrites the rules and isn't rehashing old scripts and ideas.

Hobbes

That turd of a movie Signs needs a mercy flush. Oh, and Lady in the Water is a real stinker, too. *flush* Shyamalan lost his mojo after Unbreakable.

ponytd

MayDay10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Dreamcatcher.  Great cast, promising prologue.  Aaaaand then it all goes to holy fuckin shit.

Darkman for a close 2nd, then Waterworld.

I meant to post before that I could guarantee that someone would name some movies I really like.  (Why these threads are fun.)
I liked all three of those movies.  Not my favorites but ones I like for many different reasons.

ha, I love Darkman.  I don't hate Waterworld either.  A couple parts were poorly thought out, and got a bad rap due to the budget and hype, but overall, very good (to me).

I don't hate Waterworld either, but it's one of those movies I never want to watch again. Funny story...One of my friend's older sister was on vacation in Martha's Vineyard (I think) in 96 and they were in a coffee shop in line and Kevin Costner was behind them. They said hello and he  was very cordial and more than happy to chat with them. When they got to the cashier, she said she was paying for him. He smiled and said she didn't have to do that and she responded "It's ok. It's my pleasure, plus, after Waterworld, just wanted to do something nice for you" He laughed and thanked them lol

SmallestOceans

Hobbes said:

That turd of a movie Signs needs a mercy flush. Oh, and Lady in the Water is a real stinker, too. *flush* Shyamalan lost his mojo after Unbreakable.

Yea, Split was kind of a waste of time.

dankind

SmallestOceans said:

Hobbes said:

That turd of a movie Signs needs a mercy flush. Oh, and Lady in the Water is a real stinker, too. *flush* Shyamalan lost his mojo after Unbreakable.

Yea, Split was kind of a waste of time.

Another gimmicky director. He never had any mojo, imo.

That being said, I will admit that The Visit is something of a guilty pleasure.

dankind

tbergs said:

No Coder said:

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

I like most of Fincher's work and loved Fight Club, but must admit to not having watched it in over 10 years, so not sure what I'd think now, but still think I would enjoy it - certainly wouldn't dislike it. I LOVED The Game and Se7en is a favourite of mine.

As for Nolan, I think he is a genius! Memento, Inception and Interstellar are all time great movies and his Batman Trillogy are the best Super hero movies by a long way for me - all of coarse in my opinion. Can't wait to see Dunkirk

Agreed. Momento was amazing and something no one had done. I remember seeing it in an art house theater and being blown away. Then there was Inception. Nolan just rewrites the rules and isn't rehashing old scripts and ideas.

Watching a Fincher film to me is like being hit across the face with a brick.

As for Memento, again, nothing original about it--Seinfeld did it first. And better. I will give Nolan credit for something, though: By sucking all the joy out of Batman and making those films bubblegum-pop thinkpieces for mindless millennials, the whiff of something posing as cerebral somehow got chicks to show up at the cinema for a comic book movie. That in itself was a huge win for nerds everywhere. I can't say the same for Burton's more whimsical Batman flicks.

MayDay10

I think Shyamalan gets a bad rap because the twists at the end of Unbreakable and the Dead People movie (forgot the name)...
So everyone watches these movies and waits to have their socks blown off, expecting a huge twist and guessing the whole time and walking away disappointed (expecting a twist makes said twist meh).  

Anyways...  I really liked The Village.  The problem that had is in order for it to "work", they had to market it as a horror movie.  People watched it expecting to be frightened, were disappointed and angry.  The movie itself, without labels is good.

Signs is a really well done movie.  I love the way it is shot and the acting was awesome.  The aliens' weakness was a bit lame I guess, but also necessary for the movie to work.  Signs IMO is his strongest film followed by The Village  

The Visit was pretty good, as was The Happening.  I dont think Devil was as bad as people make it out to be.  Lady in the Water too.  Unique, and also some humor in there, when that Asian woman had to keep explaining the mythology to Giamotti (who is one of the most underrated actors)


Overall, I think people follow the herd and pile on Shyamalan.  His movies arent wonderful.... but they are different and deal with 'atmosphere' in a great way.  In an industry that props itself up with remake after sequel after superhero movie after "reboots", we can use more like him.

dankind

MayDay10 said:

I think Shyamalan gets a bad rap because the twists at the end of Unbreakable and the Dead People movie (forgot the name)...
So everyone watches these movies and waits to have their socks blown off, expecting a huge twist and guessing the whole time and walking away disappointed (expecting a twist makes said twist meh).  

Anyways...  I really liked The Village.  The problem that had is in order for it to "work", they had to market it as a horror movie.  People watched it expecting to be frightened, were disappointed and angry.  The movie itself, without labels is good.

Signs is a really well done movie.  I love the way it is shot and the acting was awesome.  The aliens' weakness was a bit lame I guess, but also necessary for the movie to work.  Signs IMO is his strongest film followed by The Village  

The Visit was pretty good, as was The Happening.  I dont think Devil was as bad as people make it out to be.  Lady in the Water too.  Unique, and also some humor in there, when that Asian woman had to keep explaining the mythology to Giamotti (who is one of the most underrated actors)


Overall, I think people follow the herd and pile on Shyamalan.  His movies arent wonderful.... but they are different and deal with 'atmosphere' in a great way.  In an industry that props itself up with remake after sequel after superhero movie after "reboots", we can use more like him.

I liked the TV show he did a couple years ago with Matt Dillon.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Howard the Duck.

HesCalledDyer

I've never understood how anyone could've been surprised at the end of The Sixth Sense.

tbergs

dankind said:

tbergs said:

No Coder said:

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

I like most of Fincher's work and loved Fight Club, but must admit to not having watched it in over 10 years, so not sure what I'd think now, but still think I would enjoy it - certainly wouldn't dislike it. I LOVED The Game and Se7en is a favourite of mine.

As for Nolan, I think he is a genius! Memento, Inception and Interstellar are all time great movies and his Batman Trillogy are the best Super hero movies by a long way for me - all of coarse in my opinion. Can't wait to see Dunkirk

Agreed. Momento was amazing and something no one had done. I remember seeing it in an art house theater and being blown away. Then there was Inception. Nolan just rewrites the rules and isn't rehashing old scripts and ideas.

Watching a Fincher film to me is like being hit across the face with a brick.

As for Memento, again, nothing original about it--Seinfeld did it first. And better. I will give Nolan credit for something, though: By sucking all the joy out of Batman and making those films bubblegum-pop thinkpieces for mindless millennials, the whiff of something posing as cerebral somehow got chicks to show up at the cinema for a comic book movie. That in itself was a huge win for nerds everywhere. I can't say the same for Burton's more whimsical Batman flicks.

Well, I'm not a millennial, but I liked the more serious take on Batman. I think parts of the original movie are a bit cheesy and I prefer Burton's darker take in Batman Returns. So you really think Nolan's Batman got chicks to show up at the cinema? Never saw any of those films appealing to millennials and chicks. Seemed like the opposite of anything Nolan directs.

As for Memento, why does it matter so much that Seinfeld did it "first"? It's not even comparable. A comedy show in a 22 minute segment and a 2 hour movie production. Also, if we're splitting hairs, Nolan's brother actually pitched the plot and wrote the original script in '96, well before the Seinfeld episode aired. It just takes longer with movies. And honestly the budget wasn't that much different! 

HughFreakingDillon

I enjoyed Memento. I didn't ever consider it similar to the Seinfeld episode. 

I LOVED the new Batman movies. 

dankind

Yeah, I was one of the nerds in line for the midnight Batman showings, and about half of those waiting with me each time were women, many of them not accompanying some nerd SO. They were there of their own free will to watch a comic book movie. (Wish I could say the same for my poor wife. Although she never complains if Thor is in the picture. )

Anyway, bravo, Mr. Nolan!

I guess my thing with Nolan is that the tone of his films always hint at some sort of deep-rooted darkness that never really materializes. All the scripts are fairly formulaic. The tone set by the imagery, music, set pieces, lighting, wooden performances is selling me something Kubrickian, but what I'm really getting is watered-down Spielberg.

And I can't stand most of Spielberg. He gets a pass for the Jaws, Raiders, E.T., and Munich, though. And I think that Nolan has it in him to outdo all of those films. I'll keep watching.

ed243421

tbergs said:

dankind said:

tbergs said:

No Coder said:

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

I like most of Fincher's work and loved Fight Club, but must admit to not having watched it in over 10 years, so not sure what I'd think now, but still think I would enjoy it - certainly wouldn't dislike it. I LOVED The Game and Se7en is a favourite of mine.

As for Nolan, I think he is a genius! Memento, Inception and Interstellar are all time great movies and his Batman Trillogy are the best Super hero movies by a long way for me - all of coarse in my opinion. Can't wait to see Dunkirk

Agreed. Momento was amazing and something no one had done. I remember seeing it in an art house theater and being blown away. Then there was Inception. Nolan just rewrites the rules and isn't rehashing old scripts and ideas.

Watching a Fincher film to me is like being hit across the face with a brick.

As for Memento, again, nothing original about it--Seinfeld did it first. And better. I will give Nolan credit for something, though: By sucking all the joy out of Batman and making those films bubblegum-pop thinkpieces for mindless millennials, the whiff of something posing as cerebral somehow got chicks to show up at the cinema for a comic book movie. That in itself was a huge win for nerds everywhere. I can't say the same for Burton's more whimsical Batman flicks.

Well, I'm not a millennial, but I liked the more serious take on Batman. I think parts of the original movie are a bit cheesy and I prefer Burton's darker take in Batman Returns. So you really think Nolan's Batman got chicks to show up at the cinema? Never saw any of those films appealing to millennials and chicks. Seemed like the opposite of anything Nolan directs.

As for Memento, why does it matter so much that Seinfeld did it "first"? It's not even comparable. A comedy show in a 22 minute segment and a 2 hour movie production. Also, if we're splitting hairs, Nolan's brother actually pitched the plot and wrote the original script in '96, well before the Seinfeld episode aired. It just takes longer with movies. And honestly the budget wasn't that much different! 

Memento and that Seinfeld episode were inspired by a play titled "betrayal", later made into a movie in 1983