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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited May 2016

    Tiki said:

    My Hampton FLAC HD is without issue.

    No static on Sad at all? Have you tried it through various sources (speakers, other headphones)?
    I have headphoned it (sennheiser 280 pro). I use the Ponoworld program or just WinAMP to play FLACs on my Windows work machine, and I had it at full volume, and I've listened to it several times, zero crackling zero static-y shit... I have not played it on the big boy stereo in the other room. I downloaded the files one at a time using that POS nugs program after buying it directly from the store.
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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289
    Thank you all for the input. Maybe it's an encoding error on 10cs end with the conversion to MP3? I'll try to redownload and maybe buy the flac versions. If anyone could just send me a FLAC version of Sad from Hampton, and I'll compare to my MP3. If the flac has no static while the MP3 does, then we can contact 10c.
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    WMA sounds fantastic. They should play it way more often then they do.
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    The crowd sounds really loud, everyone I have heard from that attended, says it was an awesome show
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    dpduke69dpduke69 Raleigh, NC Posts: 187
    Crowd energy is fantastic during Vs run. Great listen and glad i'll have this to relive on demand.
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    wbutler29wbutler29 Posts: 912
    What is the best version to download if you are going to primarily listed to the boot through iPhone/ Bluetooth speakers. thanks in advance.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,147
    Listening to the MP3 version of Greenville - no issues through STBC.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,147
    wbutler29 said:

    What is the best version to download if you are going to primarily listed to the boot through iPhone/ Bluetooth speakers. thanks in advance.

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    AAJCAAJC Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 262
    This is my go-to bootleg at the moment. The Vs. run is stellar, and the rest is a solid fit. I'm super happy with this one. This will stay on the Pono for some time. Got it cranked at the moment on the home stereo (Cayin tube amp, DALI Zensor 3 bookshelf's), sounds so solid!
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    NSLNSL Nashville, TN Posts: 291

    Thank you all for the input. Maybe it's an encoding error on 10cs end with the conversion to MP3? I'll try to redownload and maybe buy the flac versions. If anyone could just send me a FLAC version of Sad from Hampton, and I'll compare to my MP3. If the flac has no static while the MP3 does, then we can contact 10c.

    All the conversions are done through nugs. PJ will upload the tracked out flac files and nugs processes them to be posted.

    I hear a little bit of static on Let The Records play

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

    Thank you all for the input. Maybe it's an encoding error on 10cs end with the conversion to MP3? I'll try to redownload and maybe buy the flac versions. If anyone could just send me a FLAC version of Sad from Hampton, and I'll compare to my MP3. If the flac has no static while the MP3 does, then we can contact 10c.

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    AAJCAAJC Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 262
    edited May 2016
    Still not hearing any static on the big stereo. Probably only noticeable on a set of cans in a critical listening environment.
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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289
    Ok guys, I've compared the HD Flac, courtesy of Tiki (thanks again), to my MP3 of Sad from Hampton 16. Interestingly enough I can hear the exact same "static/distortion" on both formats. This is very odd and not what I anticipated. I'm guessing this form of distortion is in fact a source recording error and at a frequency some just are not hearing for whatever reason. It could be due to different levels of hearing ability, loss, or even differences in audio systems presenting the distortion.

    I've tried Gville and Hampton on a handful of audio sources, compared flac to MP3, and I hear the same static. It is far from severe and it's not that noticeable but it's there. It's generally caused when there is a burst of bass or volume, as in case of Long Road and Sad on Hampton, Matt's toms are full of volume and low end, I believe it was too much for the recording device to somehow capture clearly. PJ on overload, baby! I'm purely guessing as to why, but it's most likely an issue across all audio format sources.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,147

    Ok guys, I've compared the HD Flac, courtesy of Tiki (thanks again), to my MP3 of Sad from Hampton 16. Interestingly enough I can hear the exact same "static/distortion" on both formats. This is very odd and not what I anticipated. I'm guessing this form of distortion is in fact a source recording error and at a frequency some just are not hearing for whatever reason. It could be due to different levels of hearing ability, loss, or even differences in audio systems presenting the distortion.

    I've tried Gville and Hampton on a handful of audio sources, compared flac to MP3, and I hear the same static. It is far from severe and it's not that noticeable but it's there. It's generally caused when there is a burst of bass or volume, as in case of Long Road and Sad on Hampton, Matt's toms are full of volume and low end, I believe it was too much for the recording device to somehow capture clearly. PJ on overload, baby! I'm purely guessing as to why, but it's most likely an issue across all audio format sources.

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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289
    Just to clarify, I have listened to the mp3 and hdflac (through winamp without compression) of Sad from Hampton with cheap Skullcandy iems, then with high quality $160 Dunu DN1000 hybrid iems, and a stock 2008 honda car stereo. I can hear the same static on both formats (mp3 and flac) with all the audio systems tried. To those who cannot hear it, I am happy for you. Luckily its not too bad.
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    gbgb Posts: 53
    I just have the mp3s and sad sounds like nothing but static. So disappointed
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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289
    In my tree on Hampton boot is the same, the static is awful. The main set didn't have it as bad, but the first encore is bathed in static. Damn.
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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289
    So much for thinking the static wasn't that bad, it just got worse. Greenville boot really didn't have as much distortion as Hampton boot does
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,147
    Seems to only show up during Ed's vocals on those songs Tama.
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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289

    Seems to only show up during Ed's vocals on those songs Tama.

    Yeah, thankfully it's only discerning on Sad and IMT I think. The other times I've noticed it on VA was far more subtle. Could be worse, and I'm glad the mix is strong. It seems if you use a bass heavy system with less sparkly treble, then it's not as noticeable. Accurate sounding headphones bring it out though. Forgiving, bass heavy ones like skullcandy and stock 2016 iPhone buds cover it up better.
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    KV4053KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,470

    Ok guys, I've compared the HD Flac, courtesy of Tiki (thanks again), to my MP3 of Sad from Hampton 16. Interestingly enough I can hear the exact same "static/distortion" on both formats. This is very odd and not what I anticipated. I'm guessing this form of distortion is in fact a source recording error and at a frequency some just are not hearing for whatever reason. It could be due to different levels of hearing ability, loss, or even differences in audio systems presenting the distortion.

    I've tried Gville and Hampton on a handful of audio sources, compared flac to MP3, and I hear the same static. It is far from severe and it's not that noticeable but it's there. It's generally caused when there is a burst of bass or volume, as in case of Long Road and Sad on Hampton, Matt's toms are full of volume and low end, I believe it was too much for the recording device to somehow capture clearly. PJ on overload, baby! I'm purely guessing as to why, but it's most likely an issue across all audio format sources.

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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    PJ. turn down the mics people. seems this shit is clipping. should not be happening on recordings from a band like PJ in this year of our lord 2016. who is manning the fucking soundboard?

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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289
    lolobugg said:

    PJ. turn down the mics people. seems this shit is clipping. should not be happening on recordings from a band like PJ in this year of our lord 2016. who is manning the fucking soundboard?

    I concur, it seems like clipping.
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    KCjamKCjam Posts: 135
    Lifted said:

    It's very noticeable on mine. Like i said, most of it sounds good. Just some periods of 2 or 3 songs in the second encore i believe on both the hampton and greenville bootlegs. Perhaps you missed those parts, or maybe i should try redownloading. It's certainly obnoxious though, and im far from an audio snob, so im not just nitpicking.

    As far as what issues they are having, i have no idea, and i really dont know if they would be fixable either.

    I hear you (No pun) really. I Have been collecting the official boots since 2000 and have noticed that over the past 2-3 years that the second CD has a lot of static on the first one or two songs. Is that what you are getting?
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    AAJCAAJC Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 262
    What song(s) on Greenville clearly have clipping? I've been listening to the Flac-HD files on my Pono (in balanced mode) and I'm not hearing it.
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    RiotAct10RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,613
    I noticed what sounded like static as well while Ed was singing on both Ft. L and Miami I believe. I wasn't sure if it was my speakers or what was going on. Anyone else notice it on those boots?
    words seem so out of place.

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    We All BelieveWe All Believe Scarsdale, NY Posts: 456
    RiotAct10 said:

    I noticed what sounded like static as well while Ed was singing on both Ft. L and Miami I believe. I wasn't sure if it was my speakers or what was going on. Anyone else notice it on those boots?

    I noticed static on the Miami bootleg, both via CD and my Apple lossless rip. The mix is also awful. Waaaaaay too much bass, and Ed's vocals sound low on occasion.
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    Nowhere ManNowhere Man Posts: 345
    What do you guys use to listen to your FLACHD files?
    I have a Mac Blu-Ray Player on my Mac and it sounds amazing but will only play one file, then you have to open the next manually. I tried VOX player but the sound is no comparison.
    Any suggestions?
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,248
    The static is definitely the most noticeable on In My Tree on Hampton. I have noticed very subtle moments in some of the other boots too, but overall have loved the mixes this year. I'm not sure how anyone can't hear the static since it has been noticeable over multiple listening sources for me.
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    darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,483

    What do you guys use to listen to your FLACHD files?
    I have a Mac Blu-Ray Player on my Mac and it sounds amazing but will only play one file, then you have to open the next manually. I tried VOX player but the sound is no comparison.
    Any suggestions?

    You're not going to get much of a quality gain if you're using your computer's DAC. There's a lot of electromagnetic interference inside your computer from all the different components that affects the signal. What you need is an external DAC or a dedicated HD player like the Pono or Sony's HD Walkman line.
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