Vladimir Putin

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2017
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    When Hillary Clinton was questioned about the deal, she said she had no reason to intervene in the decision. But Raphael Williams of Circa reports that memos contained on WikiLeaks show Clinton was warned about Russian attempts to flex its muscle in uranium markets. And members of Congress also sounded the alarm. The State Department had obtained a “strategy paper” from Rosatom, the Russian company seeking to purchase Uranium One. The strategy paper alarmed U.S. diplomats because it confirmed fears that Russia was moving to control the long-term supply of nuclear fuel, shut Westinghouse out of the market, and extend Moscow’s influence over Europe. The resulting diplomatic cable lays out what Williams calls “a clear warning from career U.S. officials about why expanding Russia’s control of uranium markets was bad for the United States and for its allies in Europe.” In addition, members of Congress pointed to the dangers of the Rosatom deal. Sen. John Barasso said it “would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America’s uranium production capacity.” Rep. Peter King said it “would pose great potential harm to the national security of the United States.”
    This is obviously sourced from somewhere and not your words, so please cite it. I'd like to read it. And regardless of all this, this was a cabinet level decision that was ultimately Obama's decision. So if you want to say it was a bad call, fine. But that doesn't make it nefarious.
    not so fast!
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    When Hillary Clinton was questioned about the deal, she said she had no reason to intervene in the decision. But Raphael Williams of Circa reports that memos contained on WikiLeaks show Clinton was warned about Russian attempts to flex its muscle in uranium markets. And members of Congress also sounded the alarm. The State Department had obtained a “strategy paper” from Rosatom, the Russian company seeking to purchase Uranium One. The strategy paper alarmed U.S. diplomats because it confirmed fears that Russia was moving to control the long-term supply of nuclear fuel, shut Westinghouse out of the market, and extend Moscow’s influence over Europe. The resulting diplomatic cable lays out what Williams calls “a clear warning from career U.S. officials about why expanding Russia’s control of uranium markets was bad for the United States and for its allies in Europe.” In addition, members of Congress pointed to the dangers of the Rosatom deal. Sen. John Barasso said it “would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America’s uranium production capacity.” Rep. Peter King said it “would pose great potential harm to the national security of the United States.”
    This is obviously sourced from somewhere and not your words, so please cite it. I'd like to read it. And regardless of all this, this was a cabinet level decision that was ultimately Obama's decision. So if you want to say it was a bad call, fine. But that doesn't make it nefarious.
    not so fast!
    So you're arguing that the sec'y of state was the final call on the uranium deal?  
  • mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    When Hillary Clinton was questioned about the deal, she said she had no reason to intervene in the decision. But Raphael Williams of Circa reports that memos contained on WikiLeaks show Clinton was warned about Russian attempts to flex its muscle in uranium markets. And members of Congress also sounded the alarm. The State Department had obtained a “strategy paper” from Rosatom, the Russian company seeking to purchase Uranium One. The strategy paper alarmed U.S. diplomats because it confirmed fears that Russia was moving to control the long-term supply of nuclear fuel, shut Westinghouse out of the market, and extend Moscow’s influence over Europe. The resulting diplomatic cable lays out what Williams calls “a clear warning from career U.S. officials about why expanding Russia’s control of uranium markets was bad for the United States and for its allies in Europe.” In addition, members of Congress pointed to the dangers of the Rosatom deal. Sen. John Barasso said it “would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America’s uranium production capacity.” Rep. Peter King said it “would pose great potential harm to the national security of the United States.”
    This is obviously sourced from somewhere and not your words, so please cite it. I'd like to read it. And regardless of all this, this was a cabinet level decision that was ultimately Obama's decision. So if you want to say it was a bad call, fine. But that doesn't make it nefarious.
    not so fast!
    So you're arguing that the sec'y of state was the final call on the uranium deal?  
    Its all Hillary's fault. Despite this having been explained back in the day.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,213
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    When Hillary Clinton was questioned about the deal, she said she had no reason to intervene in the decision. But Raphael Williams of Circa reports that memos contained on WikiLeaks show Clinton was warned about Russian attempts to flex its muscle in uranium markets. And members of Congress also sounded the alarm. The State Department had obtained a “strategy paper” from Rosatom, the Russian company seeking to purchase Uranium One. The strategy paper alarmed U.S. diplomats because it confirmed fears that Russia was moving to control the long-term supply of nuclear fuel, shut Westinghouse out of the market, and extend Moscow’s influence over Europe. The resulting diplomatic cable lays out what Williams calls “a clear warning from career U.S. officials about why expanding Russia’s control of uranium markets was bad for the United States and for its allies in Europe.” In addition, members of Congress pointed to the dangers of the Rosatom deal. Sen. John Barasso said it “would give the Russian government control over a sizable portion of America’s uranium production capacity.” Rep. Peter King said it “would pose great potential harm to the national security of the United States.”
    This is obviously sourced from somewhere and not your words, so please cite it. I'd like to read it. And regardless of all this, this was a cabinet level decision that was ultimately Obama's decision. So if you want to say it was a bad call, fine. But that doesn't make it nefarious.
    not so fast!
    So you're arguing that the sec'y of state was the final call on the uranium deal?  
    Its all Hillary's fault. Despite this having been explained back in the day.
    um no
    it's President Obama's fault
    Everything is President Obamas fault
    Back to and including the crucifixion of you know who
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Putin at the Intnl Discussion Club

    The Middle East is ground zero for what happens when nations try imposing their will on others forcibly. Instead of pursuing world peace and stability, some countries “do everything they can to make the chaos in this region permanent” – an agenda Russia firmly opposes.

    Crisis on the Korean peninsula can “only be resolved through dialogue. We should not drive North Korea into a corner, threaten force, stoop to unabashed rudeness or invective.”

    “Whether someone likes or dislikes the North Korean regime, we must not forget that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is a sovereign state.”

    “All disputes must be resolved in a civilized manner” – through diplomacy and compromise, avoiding confrontation.

    “(B)ig brother in Washington” behind Kosovo’s independence encouraged other separatist movements, Catalonia and Iraqi Kurdistan the latest ones.

    Globalization apologists falsely claimed economic interdependence assured freedom from conflicts and geopolitical rivalries.

    Reality proved otherwise, things more complicated and dangerous today than earlier. Western politics “crudely interfere(s) with economic, market relations.”

    Illegal unilateral US sanctions on Russia aim to oust the country “from European energy markets…compelling Europe to buy more expensive US-produced LNG although the scale of its production is still too small.”

    Washington wants Russia prevented from developing new energy routes, notably its South Stream and Nord Stream projects.

    While it’s natural for countries to have their own interests, “(t)he question is the means” they choose to pursue them.

    Russia rejects efforts by nations to achieve their aims at the expense of others, stoking tensions, creating instability, leading to conflicts.

    “A harmonious future is impossible without social responsibility, without freedom and justice, without respect for traditional ethical values and human dignity.”

    “Otherwise, instead of becoming a world of prosperity and new opportunities, this ‘brave new world’ will turn into a world of totalitarianism, castes, conflicts and greater divisions.”

    Declaring itself the Cold War victor, US-led Western countries “started openly interfering in the affairs of sovereign states,” waging wars in numerous theaters to assert their dominance.

    NATO’s expansion close to Russia’s border created “a heavy burden of mutual distrust,” the global imbalance intensifying.

    Instead of resolving global issues, there’s increasing “examples of selfishness,” international treaties and bilateral agreements “devalued” in the process.

    Russia ratified the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty. America refused. It abandoned the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

    Moscow eliminated its chemical weapons. Putin called the achievement a “historic event.” America failed to meet its commitment. It remains the world’s largest holder of these destructive weapons.

    It pushed back its deadline for eliminating them from 2007 to 2023, virtually certain to continue extending it.

    CWs Russia eliminated were enough “to destroy life on the planet multiple times over.”

    It’s “time to abandon” today’s failed agenda…Never before has humankind possessed such power as it does now.”

    The question is will it be used constructively or destructively. Humanity’s future depends on what happens. Either we learn to coexist peacefully or we’ll perish.

    We have ongoing hysteria. Washington “rip(s) down our flags, shut(s) down our diplomatic missions. What’s so good about that.”

    Post-Soviet Russia’s biggest mistake was trusting the West, a lesson learned, its foreign policy strategy changed appropriately.

    The problem in Washington is its system, hamstringing presidents like Trump, preventing him from “implement(ing) any of his election platforms and plans…”

    Combating terrorists in Syria will succeed “in the near future.” It won’t mean they’re entirely defeated. They can emerge anywhere at any time.

    If further US pressure is exerted on Russian media, “we will (respond) quite quickly” and appropriately. Putin praised RT and Sputnik News.

    The world community must choose between peace and stability or “chaos and barbarism” – the latter options clearly ahead of the former ones.

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/55882

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Trump returns the favor for info on the Tsarnaevs by providing terror suspect/plot info to Russia Russia Russia, difference, Putin acted on it.


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    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    Pravda, komrade!
  • JC29856 said:
    Trump returns the favor for info on the Tsarnaevs by providing terror suspect/plot info to Russia Russia Russia, difference, Putin acted on it.


    So he's going to tell us next time before he attacks us?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • JC29856 said:
    Trump returns the favor for info on the Tsarnaevs by providing terror suspect/plot info to Russia Russia Russia, difference, Putin acted on it.


    So he's going to tell us next time before he attacks us?
    Who? Trump or Putin, Putin, Putin?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,208
    Ahh yes Putin pulling the orange puppets strings again & again , it makes you wonder what could Putin have on the orange bafoon..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    Trump returns the favor for info on the Tsarnaevs by providing terror suspect/plot info to Russia Russia Russia, difference, Putin acted on it.


    So he's going to tell us next time before he attacks us?
    next time? when were we attacked?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 5,971
    Ahh yes Putin pulling the orange puppets strings again & again , it makes you wonder what could Putin have on the orange bafoon..
    Yup. I have no doubt that Trump is owned by Putin at some level. Here's an interesting article:

    Former Intel chief: Putin is handling Trump like 'an asset'

    Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Monday that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears to be handling President Trump like "an asset."

    "I think this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer Vladimir Putin is. He knows how to handle an asset, and that's what he's doing with the president," Clapper said on CNN's "The Lead with Jake Tapper," clarifying that he means this "figuratively."

    "You have to remember Putin's background. He's a KGB officer, that's what they do. They recruit assets. And I think some of that experience and instincts of Putin has come into play here in his managing of a pretty important account for him, if I could use that term, with our president," he continued.

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    jeffbr said:
    Ahh yes Putin pulling the orange puppets strings again & again , it makes you wonder what could Putin have on the orange bafoon..
    Yup. I have no doubt that Trump is owned by Putin at some level. Here's an interesting article:

    Former Intel chief: Putin is handling Trump like 'an asset'

    Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Monday that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears to be handling President Trump like "an asset."

    "I think this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer Vladimir Putin is. He knows how to handle an asset, and that's what he's doing with the president," Clapper said on CNN's "The Lead with Jake Tapper," clarifying that he means this "figuratively."

    "You have to remember Putin's background. He's a KGB officer, that's what they do. They recruit assets. And I think some of that experience and instincts of Putin has come into play here in his managing of a pretty important account for him, if I could use that term, with our president," he continued.

    Putin and 3d chess, even held Jill Stein as an asset just in case, an "insurance policy" for lack of a better term!
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    How about some trivia?
     
    Speaking of Fake Tapper, which famous WH intern did Tapher have "relations" with?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    How about some trivia?
     
    Speaking of Fake Tapper, which famous WH intern did Tapher have "relations" with?
    "You didnt like that one?" "I dont understand maybe you like it because hes gonna give you a tax cut"
    Maybe you'll like this one
    Which now famous or infamous DC area eatery is Mr and Mrs Tapper favorite for pizza?
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  • JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    How about some trivia?
     
    Speaking of Fake Tapper, which famous WH intern did Tapher have "relations" with?
    "You didnt like that one?" "I dont understand maybe you like it because hes gonna give you a tax cut"
    Maybe you'll like this one
    Which now famous or infamous DC area eatery is Mr and Mrs Tapper favorite for pizza?
    3D, D'ing hard for the dolla this morning. Mueller must be meeting with Team Trump Treason's personal attorneys today.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,306
    Jason P said:
    Putin owns Obama one last time on the world stage. One prefers chess while the other prefers checkers.
    This post didn't age well.
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    Look first at Putin’s domestic goals. His core concern, as with any despot, is the legitimacy of his pseudo-democratic autocracy - which means, in turn, discrediting the very different features of the liberal democracies of the West. And in this, he must be scarcely able to believe his luck.After decades of the West’s championing of liberal democracy, the American president has spent his first year attacking it. Trump has exhibited contempt for a free press, describing the bulk of Western journalism as “fake news,” words that have gladdened the hearts of dictators across the planet. He has minimized Putin’s assassination of critical journalists, saying that America has no moral standing to criticize. He has treated the judiciary either as instruments of loyalty — hence his packing of the federal bench — or as pests to be slandered or dismissed. He prefers total loyalty from law-enforcement officials to the actual rule of law. For good measure, Trump has legitimized Putin’s core model of governance — that of a benevolent cult hero of the nation, shored up by religious reactionaries — by plagiarizing it. As for the other critical aspect of Putinism — the looting of the treasury by oligarchs — I give you the latest tax bill. It even carves out special goodies for real-estate investors.

    Then there is Russia’s permanent interest in deepening the racial and partisan divides in America — the better to force the United States to be more concerned with internal strife than with foreign affairs. On this, Putin’s success is even more impressive. What better propaganda could the Kremlin get than the Charlottesville horrors, the racial divide crippling the NFL, or the candidacy of Roy Moore? In the Cold War, the Kremlin constantly cited America’s racial strife as proof that, whatever its democratic pretensions, the country was still a bastion of white supremacy. Now, much of American academia and an entire rising generation agree with what the Soviets long argued. As for the stability and legitimacy of liberal capitalism, Putin could scarcely do better than the GOP tax proposal. When economic inequality is at record highs, undermining the social compact that undergirds capitalism, the GOP is making things far worse. It would also add well over a trillion dollars to the U.S. debt. Trump is not just looting the Treasury for himself and his buddies, he is looting the younger generation as well.

    Internationally, Putin has had an even bigger year. One of his central goals — the disintegration of the European Union and the entire concept of the West — has been advanced by Washington in ways never seen before. Trump backed Brexit, breaking the U.K. away from its European partners; he supported Marine Le Pen in France for the same reason; and he has routinely lambasted Merkel, whose power is now hanging by a thread. He chose Poland, where an authoritarian party is busy dismantling judicial independence, as the site for his major foreign-policy address. He has permanently undermined the core Article 5 commitment that an attack on one NATO country is an attack on all of them, by being the first U.S. president to equivocate on it. America has also broken with its European allies by withdrawing from the Paris Accords on climate, threatening the Iran nuclear deal, and backing the ethno-nationalist extremists who now run Israel on the status of Jerusalem. Last week, the U.S. found itself utterly isolated at the U.N. on the question, and openly threatening all its allies with payback. In the Middle East, Russia has never been stronger — it is now the key player in the future of Syria, while Putin’s naked annexation of Crimea and sections of eastern Ukraine remains in place, unmentioned by the White House.

    What more could Putin ask for? Well, he could hope that his grotesque attack on the last U.S. election would lead to no serious effort to prevent it happening again. And lo, an American president has emphatically refused to lift a finger to defend the Constitution he is duty bound to protect. There’s been no attempt by the White House to protect the integrity of our elections — just a constant disdain for those who worry about them, and a general, somewhat egregious, complacency.

    https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7li8av/putins_first_year_in_the_white_house/drme5m2/?sh=e7e31602&st=JBIFGMWZ


  • dignin said:

    Look first at Putin’s domestic goals. His core concern, as with any despot, is the legitimacy of his pseudo-democratic autocracy - which means, in turn, discrediting the very different features of the liberal democracies of the West. And in this, he must be scarcely able to believe his luck.After decades of the West’s championing of liberal democracy, the American president has spent his first year attacking it. Trump has exhibited contempt for a free press, describing the bulk of Western journalism as “fake news,” words that have gladdened the hearts of dictators across the planet. He has minimized Putin’s assassination of critical journalists, saying that America has no moral standing to criticize. He has treated the judiciary either as instruments of loyalty — hence his packing of the federal bench — or as pests to be slandered or dismissed. He prefers total loyalty from law-enforcement officials to the actual rule of law. For good measure, Trump has legitimized Putin’s core model of governance — that of a benevolent cult hero of the nation, shored up by religious reactionaries — by plagiarizing it. As for the other critical aspect of Putinism — the looting of the treasury by oligarchs — I give you the latest tax bill. It even carves out special goodies for real-estate investors.

    Then there is Russia’s permanent interest in deepening the racial and partisan divides in America — the better to force the United States to be more concerned with internal strife than with foreign affairs. On this, Putin’s success is even more impressive. What better propaganda could the Kremlin get than the Charlottesville horrors, the racial divide crippling the NFL, or the candidacy of Roy Moore? In the Cold War, the Kremlin constantly cited America’s racial strife as proof that, whatever its democratic pretensions, the country was still a bastion of white supremacy. Now, much of American academia and an entire rising generation agree with what the Soviets long argued. As for the stability and legitimacy of liberal capitalism, Putin could scarcely do better than the GOP tax proposal. When economic inequality is at record highs, undermining the social compact that undergirds capitalism, the GOP is making things far worse. It would also add well over a trillion dollars to the U.S. debt. Trump is not just looting the Treasury for himself and his buddies, he is looting the younger generation as well.

    Internationally, Putin has had an even bigger year. One of his central goals — the disintegration of the European Union and the entire concept of the West — has been advanced by Washington in ways never seen before. Trump backed Brexit, breaking the U.K. away from its European partners; he supported Marine Le Pen in France for the same reason; and he has routinely lambasted Merkel, whose power is now hanging by a thread. He chose Poland, where an authoritarian party is busy dismantling judicial independence, as the site for his major foreign-policy address. He has permanently undermined the core Article 5 commitment that an attack on one NATO country is an attack on all of them, by being the first U.S. president to equivocate on it. America has also broken with its European allies by withdrawing from the Paris Accords on climate, threatening the Iran nuclear deal, and backing the ethno-nationalist extremists who now run Israel on the status of Jerusalem. Last week, the U.S. found itself utterly isolated at the U.N. on the question, and openly threatening all its allies with payback. In the Middle East, Russia has never been stronger — it is now the key player in the future of Syria, while Putin’s naked annexation of Crimea and sections of eastern Ukraine remains in place, unmentioned by the White House.

    What more could Putin ask for? Well, he could hope that his grotesque attack on the last U.S. election would lead to no serious effort to prevent it happening again. And lo, an American president has emphatically refused to lift a finger to defend the Constitution he is duty bound to protect. There’s been no attempt by the White House to protect the integrity of our elections — just a constant disdain for those who worry about them, and a general, somewhat egregious, complacency.

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    How about some trivia?
     
    Speaking of Fake Tapper, which famous WH intern did Tapher have "relations" with?
    "You didnt like that one?" "I dont understand maybe you like it because hes gonna give you a tax cut"
    Maybe you'll like this one
    Which now famous or infamous DC area eatery is Mr and Mrs Tapper favorite for pizza?
    BOOOO! BOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOO
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    How about some trivia?
     
    Speaking of Fake Tapper, which famous WH intern did Tapher have "relations" with?
    "You didnt like that one?" "I dont understand maybe you like it because hes gonna give you a tax cut"
    Maybe you'll like this one
    Which now famous or infamous DC area eatery is Mr and Mrs Tapper favorite for pizza?
    3D, D'ing hard for the dolla this morning. Mueller must be meeting with Team Trump Treason's personal attorneys today.
    #nowayjose
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

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    Whoa JC what happened?
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    Whoa JC what happened?
    He became more annoying
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