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wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
edited January 2015 in The Porch
What's up with all this fake vinyl I've been seeing lately. Saw a fake Avocado at a record store yesterday, looked like shit, probably sounded that way to.
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    jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,181
    Man, your show list literally takes up my whole screen every time you post
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    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

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    MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    edited January 2015
    So far:
    No Code - White Vinyl
    Yield - White Vinyl
    Binaural - Orange Vinyl
    S/T - Blue Vinyl
    Lost Dogs - Blue, Green, and Yellow Vinyl versions

    There are probably more.
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    Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,494
    Mainly because they refuse to reissue the vinyl releases and people don't want to pay the ridiculous prices the originals go for so enterprising people found a market.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,659
    I have a S/T blue vinyl and it looks awesome actually.
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    themrpearljamthemrpearljam Posts: 307
    jervin007 wrote: »
    Man, your show list literally takes up my whole screen every time you post

    and where does one hang all those show event posters at
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    I have a S/T blue vinyl and it looks awesome actually.

    BUT...How does it sound???
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    Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Blue, Red, Yellow, Green and White versions of Lost Dogs. Taste the rainbow.
    And yes, they are shit.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,659
    Funny Dave!
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Funny Dave!

    :D
    '96: Seattle: Key Arena
    '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
    '00: Columbus: Polaris
    '03: Columbus: Germain
    '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
    '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
    '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
    '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
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    Patrick_Sea3Patrick_Sea3 West Seattle Posts: 890
    Most of them sound just as good as the originals...

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    Horse2345Horse2345 Posts: 3,236
    patrickwieczore wrote: »
    Most of them sound just as good as the originals...

    +1. I have some and they sound pretty close to originals.
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    wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161568461057&alt=web

    225$ for a fake? I mean seriously? It's already up pretty high?

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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,420
    jervin007 wrote: »
    Man, your show list literally takes up my whole screen every time you post
    He's almost been to half as many shows as posts he's made on the forum.
    ^:)^
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    Patrick_Sea3Patrick_Sea3 West Seattle Posts: 890
    I paid about $60.00 for a white copy of Lost Dogs, and out of all the bootlegs this one sounds the best.
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Of The Aggie wrote: »
    Mainly because they refuse to reissue the vinyl releases and people don't want to pay the ridiculous prices the originals go for so enterprising people found a market.

    The irony is people are paying ridiculous prices for the bootleg LPs.
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    jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,181
    wecrazybob wrote: »
    Sorry my signature is so long, DEAL WITH IT

    It is an impressive list, but you could easily put multiple shows per line to condense it down a bit.

    Anyway....yeah, the bootleg prices are ridiculous and it actually make you have to be more cautious in buying any sealed vinyl because you really don't know what you might be getting. I for one would never buy one for those ridiculous prices
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    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,659
    jervin007 wrote: »
    wecrazybob wrote: »
    Sorry my signature is so long, DEAL WITH IT

    It is an impressive list, but you could easily put multiple shows per line to condense it down a bit.

    Anyway....yeah, the bootleg prices are ridiculous and it actually make you have to be more cautious in buying any sealed vinyl because you really don't know what you might be getting. I for one would never buy one for those ridiculous prices

    How do those of us not fully experienced in the art of sniffing out dupes tell if something we are buying is the Original or a Bootleg?
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    MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    edited January 2015
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    How do those of us not fully experienced in the art of sniffing out dupes tell if something we are buying is the Original or a Bootleg?
    First would be the colored vinyl. IIRC there are no official studio albums on colored vinyl, except for the new 'coke' Ten that Newbury released.

    EDIT:White Backspacer, Red Lightning Bolt. Colored, and GITD PJ20 are also official

    Second, there are usually subtle differences with the cover. Like S/T and Binaural have glossy covers with no cat. # on the spine. Binaural also has 'Pearl Jam' on the front cover like the CD. The Yield is not die-cut and again has no cat# on spine.

    I don't have the unofficial Lost Dogs or No code, so I couldn't help you there, but I'm sure there are noticeable difference to those that do research.

    Research is the key, don't just buy blindly.
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    MedozK wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    How do those of us not fully experienced in the art of sniffing out dupes tell if something we are buying is the Original or a Bootleg?
    First would be the colored vinyl. IIRC there are no official studio albums on colored vinyl, except for the new 'coke' Ten that Newbury released.

    Second, there are usually subtle differences with the cover. Like S/T and Binaural have glossy covers with no cat. # on the spine. Binaural also has 'Pearl Jam' on the front cover like the CD. The Yield is not die-cut and again has no cat# on spine.

    I don't have the unofficial Lost Dogs or No code, so I couldn't help you there, but I'm sure there are noticeable difference to those that do research.

    Research is the key, don't just buy blindly.

    Don't forget 10c put out the White Backspacer and Red Lightning Bolt. And the colored PJ20 soundtrack. Not that those have been bootlegged yet.
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    MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    pjsteelerfan wrote: »
    MedozK wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    How do those of us not fully experienced in the art of sniffing out dupes tell if something we are buying is the Original or a Bootleg?
    First would be the colored vinyl. IIRC there are no official studio albums on colored vinyl, except for the new 'coke' Ten that Newbury released.

    Second, there are usually subtle differences with the cover. Like S/T and Binaural have glossy covers with no cat. # on the spine. Binaural also has 'Pearl Jam' on the front cover like the CD. The Yield is not die-cut and again has no cat# on spine.

    I don't have the unofficial Lost Dogs or No code, so I couldn't help you there, but I'm sure there are noticeable difference to those that do research.

    Research is the key, don't just buy blindly.

    Don't forget 10c put out the White Backspacer and Red Lightning Bolt. And the colored PJ20 soundtrack. Not that those have been bootlegged yet.
    Dang forgot about those. Thanks.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,659
    Thanks MedozK, that is helpful. I actually do have a Red LB and knew that was official but do not have the White BS nor PJ20 colored. Missed out on the Coke Ten but dont want to pay those rates.
    I guess research will be the key as you shared.
    I asked this of someone recently and they were not sure -- who are the resident Vinyl Experts on the boards? I know some of the Poster Guys, the Pick Guys, and the Merch Guys but to whom could I bring questions as I look to add originals?

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    jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,181
    MedozK wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    How do those of us not fully experienced in the art of sniffing out dupes tell if something we are buying is the Original or a Bootleg?
    First would be the colored vinyl. IIRC there are no official studio albums on colored vinyl, except for the new 'coke' Ten that Newbury released.

    EDIT:White Backspacer, Red Lightning Bolt. Colored, and GITD PJ20 are also official

    Second, there are usually subtle differences with the cover. Like S/T and Binaural have glossy covers with no cat. # on the spine. Binaural also has 'Pearl Jam' on the front cover like the CD. The Yield is not die-cut and again has no cat# on spine.

    I don't have the unofficial Lost Dogs or No code, so I couldn't help you there, but I'm sure there are noticeable difference to those that do research.

    Research is the key, don't just buy blindly.

    Yeah, if a person is offering a "sealed" copy of most of the studio LP's and doesn't have detailed pics I would avoid it. Buy from people on the forum or pick up unsealed copies (with detailed photos) on ebay.

    I would be so pissed if I bought a sealed Lost Dogs advertised as official and open it to find its bootlegged. Who knows, people might have bootlegs sitting in their collection sealed that they think are official.
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    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
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    MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Thanks MedozK, that is helpful. I actually do have a Red LB and knew that was official but do not have the White BS nor PJ20 colored. Missed out on the Coke Ten but dont want to pay those rates.
    I guess research will be the key as you shared.
    I asked this of someone recently and they were not sure -- who are the resident Vinyl Experts on the boards? I know some of the Poster Guys, the Pick Guys, and the Merch Guys but to whom could I bring questions as I look to add originals?
    There are a lot of vinyl experts on the board. I think if you just ask in the forums someone will gladly help you out, and if they don't know I'm sure someone else will step in with answers.

    That is one of the really good things about these forums, is that in general we are here to help each other out.
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    wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    Wrote the lost dogs ebay guy and asked him if it was official or a bootleg. Didn't answer my question just said his was on colored vinyl (which means fake,) for someone who didn't know any better, might think Pearl Jam put it out(especially judging on the $225 price tag.) Just seems criminal to me.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,659
    MedozK wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Thanks MedozK, that is helpful. I actually do have a Red LB and knew that was official but do not have the White BS nor PJ20 colored. Missed out on the Coke Ten but dont want to pay those rates.
    I guess research will be the key as you shared.
    I asked this of someone recently and they were not sure -- who are the resident Vinyl Experts on the boards? I know some of the Poster Guys, the Pick Guys, and the Merch Guys but to whom could I bring questions as I look to add originals?
    There are a lot of vinyl experts on the board. I think if you just ask in the forums someone will gladly help you out, and if they don't know I'm sure someone else will step in with answers.

    That is one of the really good things about these forums, is that in general we are here to help each other out.
    Thanks & you are right. The stuff I do know about I always try to help others with...I just happen to know very little about vinyl and have recently started spending money on it.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,626
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    MedozK wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Thanks MedozK, that is helpful. I actually do have a Red LB and knew that was official but do not have the White BS nor PJ20 colored. Missed out on the Coke Ten but dont want to pay those rates.
    I guess research will be the key as you shared.
    I asked this of someone recently and they were not sure -- who are the resident Vinyl Experts on the boards? I know some of the Poster Guys, the Pick Guys, and the Merch Guys but to whom could I bring questions as I look to add originals?
    There are a lot of vinyl experts on the board. I think if you just ask in the forums someone will gladly help you out, and if they don't know I'm sure someone else will step in with answers.

    That is one of the really good things about these forums, is that in general we are here to help each other out.
    Thanks & you are right. The stuff I do know about I always try to help others with...I just happen to know very little about vinyl and have recently started spending money on it.
    A lot of us have the originals, so there are a ton of people who you could play "compare the vinyl" with too. ;) I have also noticed that most bootlegs have 'fuzzy edges' on any printing on the jackets; kind of looks like they are photocopies. If all of the print isn't 100% sharp, you've got a bootleg. Of course, a bootleg could have been printed better than usual, so it's not a complete fail safe, but at least you know what to avoid.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,659
    PJ_Soul wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    MedozK wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Thanks MedozK, that is helpful. I actually do have a Red LB and knew that was official but do not have the White BS nor PJ20 colored. Missed out on the Coke Ten but dont want to pay those rates.
    I guess research will be the key as you shared.
    I asked this of someone recently and they were not sure -- who are the resident Vinyl Experts on the boards? I know some of the Poster Guys, the Pick Guys, and the Merch Guys but to whom could I bring questions as I look to add originals?
    There are a lot of vinyl experts on the board. I think if you just ask in the forums someone will gladly help you out, and if they don't know I'm sure someone else will step in with answers.

    That is one of the really good things about these forums, is that in general we are here to help each other out.
    Thanks & you are right. The stuff I do know about I always try to help others with...I just happen to know very little about vinyl and have recently started spending money on it.
    A lot of us have the originals, so there are a ton of people who you could play "compare the vinyl" with too. ;) I have also noticed that most bootlegs have 'fuzzy edges' on any printing on the jackets; kind of looks like they are photocopies. If all of the print isn't 100% sharp, you've got a bootleg. Of course, a bootleg could have been printed better than usual, so it's not a complete fail safe, but at least you know what to avoid.
    Thanks!
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    Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,494
    boyo79 wrote: »
    Of The Aggie wrote: »
    Mainly because they refuse to reissue the vinyl releases and people don't want to pay the ridiculous prices the originals go for so enterprising people found a market.

    The irony is people are paying ridiculous prices for the bootleg LPs.

    Oh. I seem to remember when the self-titled bootleg came out people were snatching them up because they were at a reasonable price. I guess the demand for the bootlegs has increased, thus the prices have followed.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,626
    edited January 2015
    Of The Aggie wrote: »
    boyo79 wrote: »
    Of The Aggie wrote: »
    Mainly because they refuse to reissue the vinyl releases and people don't want to pay the ridiculous prices the originals go for so enterprising people found a market.

    The irony is people are paying ridiculous prices for the bootleg LPs.

    Oh. I seem to remember when the self-titled bootleg came out people were snatching them up because they were at a reasonable price. I guess the demand for the bootlegs has increased, thus the prices have followed.
    I thought that when they go for those high prices it is just because the buyers don't know any better and they think they're buying originals for a pretty good price.... No??? I really can't believe that folks are purposefully paying $200+ prices for boots. No way.
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    wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    edited January 2015
    I thought the same thing, no way the people paying these HIGH prices know they are getting fakes.
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