R&R Hall Of Fame's Peresman on PJ's Drummers Situation

oysterjar

DewieCox said:

dankind said:

Boom?

If he goes in, then Brendan Obrien and every drummer that has played with them and/or rumored to join them should go in.

yep

Last-12-Exit

DewieCox said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Would PJ have made it big wo Dave A? I say yes.

Would PJ exist to be inducted wo MC? I say no.

I'm guessing that's how the HoF goes about this. Thus, the Kiss decision. And wo a band objection, I don't see the push for Dave A happening.

Of course they made it big with Ten, but Vs, Vitalogy and the live shows wouldn't have been as good with a different drummer. He helped push them to another level IMO. If he doesn't go in, then no PJ drummer deserves to go in.

I agree PJ wouldn't exist without Cameron, as they've states as much. OTOH, I don't think much of their RnR HoF case has been built with him in the band, that they couldn't have built with any other good rock drummer. Not taking anything away from his ability or his contributions to the band, I just think they'd have pretty much the same resume if they stopped in the early 00s.

I think pearl jam could have called it quits in 2000 and still been inducted in the HoF. Matt Cameron doesn't make them Hall of fame worthy. Dave A and Jack had more to do with that.

evenflow82

Dave A better go in. We all know this won't happen though. Whatever the beef the band had with him you'd figure they could let it go after 20 YEARS. For all the tolerance and liberalism the band shows you'd figure they could walk the walk with one guy for one night.

rummy

Last-12-Exit said:

DewieCox said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Would PJ have made it big wo Dave A? I say yes.

Would PJ exist to be inducted wo MC? I say no.

I'm guessing that's how the HoF goes about this. Thus, the Kiss decision. And wo a band objection, I don't see the push for Dave A happening.

Of course they made it big with Ten, but Vs, Vitalogy and the live shows wouldn't have been as good with a different drummer. He helped push them to another level IMO. If he doesn't go in, then no PJ drummer deserves to go in.

I agree PJ wouldn't exist without Cameron, as they've states as much. OTOH, I don't think much of their RnR HoF case has been built with him in the band, that they couldn't have built with any other good rock drummer. Not taking anything away from his ability or his contributions to the band, I just think they'd have pretty much the same resume if they stopped in the early 00s.

I think pearl jam could have called it quits in 2000 and still been inducted in the HoF. Matt Cameron doesn't make them Hall of fame worthy. Dave A and Jack had more to do with that.

The first five albums are indeed good (I mean great) enough to get them into the HoF but their live performances since (and, of course, the whole bootleg program) took them to another level as artists in the music business.

TheRealDanPatch

Just my two cents, but I think that Dave Krusen, Dave Abbruzzese, Jack Irons, and Matt Cameron should all be inducted with the band.