R&R Hall Of Fame's Peresman on PJ's Drummers Situation

MSnider44

Pearl Jam should pose another conundrum considering the fact they've had five separate drummers. "I'm just trying to get through next Friday," says Peresman with a big laugh. "I'll deal with Pearl Jam's drummers after that."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rock-hall-induction-2014-inside-the-fights-performances-kiss-wrath-20140404#ixzz2xw97HzFN

jamburger

Shhh! Only four exist.

pjsteelerfan

I don't think it will be much of an issue when the time comes.

Kat

That's funny. I wonder what they'll do?

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CJ23113

I had looked in to why dave Navarro wasn't inducted with the chili peppers. As per the hall requirements must be:
1. Original members or
2. Record 2 or more albums with the group.
Looks like as per the rules all 4 drummers should get into the hall.

Poncier

They'll just have Peter Criss play drums with them at the induction ceremony.

DewieCox

Those may be the requirements, but the bands decide who gets in. It'll be pretty weak if Abbruzzese doesn't go in with them.

wwsuicide

jamburger said:

Shhh! Only four exist.

Matt Chamberlain was also a member for a spell.

Poncier

wwsuicide said:

jamburger said:

Shhh! Only four exist.

Matt Chamberlain was also a member for a spell.

I'm sure Jamburger knows that, I believe he was referring to Dave A. essentially being persona non grata per EV.

wwsuicide

Poncier said:

wwsuicide said:

jamburger said:

Shhh! Only four exist.

Matt Chamberlain was also a member for a spell.

I'm sure Jamburger knows that, I believe he was referring to Dave A. essentially being persona non grata per EV.

Got ya. Dave A. was a badass IMO.

backseatLover12

DewieCox said:

Those may be the requirements, but the bands decide who gets in. It'll be pretty weak if Abbruzzese doesn't go in with them.

Do they? The first drummer for Nirvana, Chad Channing, will not be inducted. He played on the first album, Bleach. The HOF refuses to induct him. Their decision. Same goes for Pat Smear.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/nirvana-drummer-hall-of-fame/

http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blog_files/Nirvana_Chad_Channing_Inducted.html

Kiss has its own issues. Being dissed by the HOF for 14 years is one of them, as well as now being inducted but only the original members, which they have a real problem with. HOF's decision.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2014/03/31/kiss-feels-dissed-by-rock-hall-of-fame-induction-process/7100607/

The HOF is just another corporate entity making up their own rules. Don't look up to them as the ultimate club for only the highest royalty of rock and roll. Look at them like PJ looks at the Grammys. Because they're just as corporate.

I tend to like Linda Ronstandt. But it's now 40 years since she's been howling her pipes and only now do they induct her. And she can't even sing at the induction because she has Parkinson's Disease which has now taken away her beautiful talent.

Way to go, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame…

HollisBrown

Fuck the R & R HOF. As long as groups like Stevie Ray Vaughan, The Moody Blues and Chicago aren't in, it's relevancy to me is irrelevant.

backseatLover12

An interesting article: http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blog_files/category-rock-hall-politics.php

How Does the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Decide Which Band Members Get Inducted?

(Nothing's consistent: Red Hot Chili Peppers and the Grateful Dead are among the very few whom all band members were inducted).

DewieCox

backseatLover12 said:

An interesting article: http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blog_files/category-rock-hall-politics.php

How Does the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Decide Which Band Members Get Inducted?

(Nothing's consistent: Red Hot Chili Peppers and the Grateful Dead are among the very few whom all band members were inducted).

Ah..,just seen that and was coming back for a little crow. Either way. Dave A deserves some recognition as a drummer that's every bit as important to the PJ cause as the others. Hopefully PJ/EV is cool with him getting up on stage and accepting the honor.

backseatLover12

DewieCox said:

backseatLover12 said:

An interesting article: http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blog_files/category-rock-hall-politics.php

How Does the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Decide Which Band Members Get Inducted?

(Nothing's consistent: Red Hot Chili Peppers and the Grateful Dead are among the very few whom all band members were inducted).

Ah..,just seen that and was coming back for a little crow. Either way. Dave A deserves some recognition as a drummer that's every bit as important to the PJ cause as the others. Hopefully PJ/EV is cool with him getting up on stage and accepting the honor.

According to one of the articles, I've read, Chad Channing is invited to the event as a guest, not as an inductee and not as a performer. It's not up to the band. It'll probably be the same for PJ and every other band. Unless they do it anyway. But he won't get a trophy, plaque or whatever they get.

josevolution

No way does Dave A go in with the band , they celebrated 20yrs a band with out so much a sniff towards Dave it's as if he never played a single song with them ....

DewieCox

backseatLover12 said:

According to one of the articles, I've read, Chad Channing is invited to the event as a guest, not as an inductee and not as a performer. It's not up to the band. It'll probably be the same for PJ and every other band. Unless they do it anyway. But he won't get a trophy, plaque or whatever they get.

I'm saying he should get a plaque and inducted, not just an invite.

backseatLover12

DewieCox said:

backseatLover12 said:

According to one of the articles, I've read, Chad Channing is invited to the event as a guest, not as an inductee and not as a performer. It's not up to the band. It'll probably be the same for PJ and every other band. Unless they do it anyway. But he won't get a trophy, plaque or whatever they get.

I'm saying he should get a plaque and inducted, not just an invite.

I think all the drummers should be. But it's up to the corrupt HOF who gets inducted.

RB90590

Real shame about Chad.

The band being inducted this year is all based off the release of Bleach, and album that Grohl had nothing to do with.

Will be interesting to see if PJ gets in year one, and who they induct as the drummer(s).

MSnider44

Since it's the Rock Hall that decides who gets in, Channing should definitely have been included because of Bleach. Krist and Dave are both on record saying they wish he was in.

And since it's the Rock Hall that decides who gets in, Dave A should definitely be included. Dude wrote "Go" (album opener, mind you) and co-wrote "WMA", "Last Exit", "Pry, To", "Aye Davanita", and "Alone".

Dave K needs to be inducted because of Ten. He also co-wrote "Release", "Wash", "2,000 Mile Blues", and "Evil Little Goat".

Jack and Matt Cameron need to be inducted because .... well, I don't have to go into details here, now do I .....

WhatYouTaughtMe

How weird would it be to see the band jam with all of them?

mr bungle

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

How weird would it be to see the band jam with all of them?

) this will be SO Spinal Tap!

EdsonNascimento

Would PJ have made it big wo Dave A? I say yes.

Would PJ exist to be inducted wo MC? I say no.

I'm guessing that's how the HoF goes about this. Thus, the Kiss decision. And wo a band objection, I don't see the push for Dave A happening.

YLed2

It will definitely be interesting to see how they go about this. All are deserving of being honored when PJ is inducted, and I personally would feel great to see the band give Dave A some love when it happens.

DewieCox

EdsonNascimento said:

Would PJ have made it big wo Dave A? I say yes.

Would PJ exist to be inducted wo MC? I say no.

I'm guessing that's how the HoF goes about this. Thus, the Kiss decision. And wo a band objection, I don't see the push for Dave A happening.

Of course they made it big with Ten, but Vs, Vitalogy and the live shows wouldn't have been as good with a different drummer. He helped push them to another level IMO. If he doesn't go in, then no PJ drummer deserves to go in.

I agree PJ wouldn't exist without Cameron, as they've states as much. OTOH, I don't think much of their RnR HoF case has been built with him in the band, that they couldn't have built with any other good rock drummer. Not taking anything away from his ability or his contributions to the band, I just think they'd have pretty much the same resume if they stopped in the early 00s.

Ledbetterman10

MSnider44 said:

Since it's the Rock Hall that decides who gets in, Channing should definitely have been included because of Bleach. Krist and Dave are both on record saying they wish he was in.

I'm surprised to hear it's the Rock Hall that decides who gets in. If that's the case, how is Robert Trujillo in with Metallica and Dave Mustaine isn't? I figured that was Metallica saying "we don't want Dave." Same with the Chili Peppers. How is their latest guitarist Josh Klinghoffer in? I assumed they said they wanted him in so here he is.

Anyway, as for PJ, I'd be fine with just four of them and Matt being inducted. Dave Krusen won't be inducted. And either Dave A and Jack both will be or both won't be. You can't induct one and not the other.

dr122931

Matt and jack are certain to get in and it won't shock me if Dave does too.

cp3iverson

The band has to understand that the fans love Dave A. He was the friendliest most accessible member during their mega stardom. He belongs onstage with them at least for the speech.

rummy

I'm just glad there is no longer a debate as to whether or not the band itself will be inducted.

Pearl Jam in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!

(It'd be that year, right?)

dankind

Boom?

DewieCox

dankind said:

Boom?

If he goes in, then Brendan Obrien and every drummer that has played with them and/or rumored to join them should go in.