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The sad state of US politics & how it gets worse every year

kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,323
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
All we are hearing about on the news lately is scandals involving potential government abuse and/or negligence... but even if all of the accusations against the government are true, how much does it all really affect us?

Perhaps the IRS did pay more scrutiny to Tea Party groups... never mind that for a group to qualify for tax-exempt status, it shouldn't be overtly political like all Tea Party groups are, and never mind that the only group that's had it's 501(c)(4) application denied so far was a liberal group (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/1 ... sp-outrage), and never mind that the head of the IRS at the time was a Bush appointee... Let's suppose the IRS under Obama was really paying closer attention to Tea Party groups than other groups... does it make us like a third world dictatorship as Sen. Marco Rubio said on the floor of the Senate yesterday?

Perhaps the Obama administration really was clueless about what went down in Benghazi last September and pulled the outrage over an anti-Islam video story out of their ass to try to explain it... never mind that they refuted their own story three days later, and never mind that Benghazi is in a volatile area where many want to kill Americans, and that no government agency can ever be all-knowing... Let's suppose the State Dept. was grossly incompetent at the time... how much does it matter to those of us who don't assume the risk of working for peace in a war-torn region?

If you ask me, the real scandals that should be pinned on the Obama administration are the ongoing war in Afghanistan, the shady deals with Monsanto, the private debt crisis (which is much worse than the public debt problem), the lack of real effort to deal with climate change - just to name a few - but these won't become scandals that we hear about in the media every day, because the Republicans are just complicit in them as the Democrats are. The media only seems to be interest in the petty Republican vs Democrat battles... which could lead to another ridiculous impeachment... forget the sequester and the budget... let's have the House impeach the President again and the Senate acquit him again... it could be the late 90's all over again... except now our problems are much worse.

Losing hope for the future here. At least there's summer concerts to look forward to... Probably best not to think too long-term.
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    kenny olav wrote:
    All we are hearing about on the news lately is scandals involving potential government abuse and/or negligence... but even if all of the accusations against the government are true, how much does it all really affect us?

    Perhaps the IRS did pay more scrutiny to Tea Party groups... never mind that for a group to qualify for tax-exempt status, it shouldn't be overtly political like all Tea Party groups are, and never mind that the only group that's had it's 501(c)(4) application denied so far was a liberal group (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/1 ... sp-outrage), and never mind that the head of the IRS at the time was a Bush appointee... Let's suppose the IRS under Obama was really paying closer attention to Tea Party groups than other groups... does it make us like a third world dictatorship as Sen. Marco Rubio said on the floor of the Senate yesterday?

    Perhaps the Obama administration really was clueless about what went down in Benghazi last September and pulled the outrage over an anti-Islam video story out of their ass to try to explain it... never mind that they refuted their own story three days later, and never mind that Benghazi is in a volatile area where many want to kill Americans, and that no government agency can ever be all-knowing... Let's suppose the State Dept. was grossly incompetent at the time... how much does it matter to those of us who don't assume the risk of working for peace in a war-torn region?

    If you ask me, the real scandals that should be pinned on the Obama administration are the ongoing war in Afghanistan, the shady deals with Monsanto, the private debt crisis (which is much worse than the public debt problem), the lack of real effort to deal with climate change - just to name a few - but these won't become scandals that we hear about in the media every day, because the Republicans are just complicit in them as the Democrats are. The media only seems to be interest in the petty Republican vs Democrat battles... which could lead to another ridiculous impeachment... forget the sequester and the budget... let's have the House impeach the President again and the Senate acquit him again... it could be the late 90's all over again... except now our problems are much worse.

    Losing hope for the future here. At least there's summer concerts to look forward to... Probably best not to think too long-term.

    :clap:
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,633
    Just another day here in ignoreland

    It's tough to change things at to top of a completely corrupt political system that makes, and changes, the rules as they go
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I skimed thru the OP and was thinking that yeah our political system is a mess no matter who's in office,then we get groups like the tea party that fight to change it and they are attacked by governmental groups, I'm not siding here one way or another just saying if any groups to change to corse of a train reck in our political system they are faught from all sides and we are left with this.....a mess.

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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    kenny olav wrote:
    If you ask me, the real scandals that should be pinned on the Obama administration are the ongoing war in Afghanistan, the shady deals with Monsanto, the private debt crisis (which is much worse than the public debt problem), the lack of real effort to deal with climate change - just to name a few - but these won't become scandals that we hear about in the media every day, because the Republicans are just complicit in them as the Democrats are.
    All in all, they are the same beast. If a democrat supporter woke up from a six year coma and read the news, would they assume the Democrats were in charge? I think not.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,631
    It's not getting worse, but it's not getting better, either. I guess if you're a Republican it looks like it's getting worse.
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    AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    I think it is getting better... the media is being exposed as being at least an equal partner in the corupt government. That is an important first step.
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    kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,323
    It took decades longer than it should have to enact some kind of national health care plan in America, and now three years later, our representatives are still debating it - and one house of Congress voted to repeal it for the 37th time. I don't know how it can get much worse than this... but probably somehow it will.
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