I'm a METAL noob, help me out?!!!

harmless_little_f***
harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
edited July 2008 in Other Music
I went to a rock night at my local club where they played metal all night. It was fucking incredible, I got totally bladdered, but I hardly recognised any of what I was hearing.

The closest I've got to metal are Deftones, System of a Down and old-skool Korn. Some grunge tips its hat to metal, I s'pose (AIC particularly).

I like rhythm, technicality and changes in tempo (hence my liking of System of a Down). I love ATMOSPHERE (hence my liking for Deftones). The stuff I loved in this rock night quite often switched from fast and chuggy with growling vocals, to sloooow and chuggy and full of SLUDGY atmosphere.

Where should I start? I have no real Metal in my collection at all.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Apart from the occasional SOAD song, and the obvious early Metallica stuff, the only metal I was ever really into was Fear Factory's stuff... Demanufacture/Obsolete era.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBaNf6Jk5rM
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Apart from the occasional SOAD song, and the obvious early Metallica stuff, the only metal I was ever really into was Fear Factory's stuff... Demanufacture/Obsolete era.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBaNf6Jk5rM

    I forgot to mention.. I find it impossible to take most Metallica seriously. I understand how monumental it was, but I guess you had to be there. It's cheesy, reminds me of boys' cartoons and I'd file it under 'Old skool' along with Megadeth.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I forgot to mention.. I find it impossible to take most Metallica seriously. I understand how monumental it was, but I guess you had to be there. It's cheesy, reminds me of boys' cartoons and I'd file it under 'Old skool' along with Megadeth.

    I feel that way about most metal these days, really. I listened to most of this stuff in my early teens.
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  • LukinFan
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    you have to check out Sevendust and Nonpoint- they are both in my top five favorite bands of all time. Both put on one hell of a live show- and actually are touring together right now.
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I feel that way about most metal these days, really. I listened to most of this stuff in my early teens.

    I understand that.. Nostalgia for old times will make me listen to a lot of stuff I otherwise wouldn't. :D
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  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    I love Pantera, Rob Zombie, Soulfly, Fear Factory, Black Label Society and Zakk Wylde and some Korn.
    Also 'old skool'... Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, not Megadeth though *shudder*


    I'll edit as I think of more :)
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I understand that.. Nostalgia for old times will make me listen to a lot of stuff I otherwise wouldn't. :D

    That's why Bon Jovi is still a regular feature on my CD player. :D

    Oh, I just remembered, this is a pretty cool song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn4kL8POF0U
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    urbanhippie wrote:
    I love Pantera, Rob Zombie, Soulfly, Fear Factory, Black Label Society and Zakk Wylde and some Korn.
    Also 'old skool'... Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, not Megadeth though *shudder*


    I'll edit as I think of more :)

    It's funny... I always wanted to like Megadeth. I felt bad for Dave Mustaine after the Metallica guys fucked him over, but I just can't take the guy seriously. The music is just embarrassing. :o

    Cool to see another Fear Factory fan though. :)
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  • Brain Of E
    Brain Of E Posts: 499
    try some Slayer or Mastodon,


    btw i am a Megadeth fan
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  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    Pantera will be up your street i think.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZ9bL2WGBE

    Also Soulfly, Fear Factory, Black label Society, Motorhead and Rammstein

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrsgNbBI9xI

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  • pjoasisrule
    pjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    Metal is dead

    Black Sabbath are good, get some of their stuff
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    Metal is dead

    Even if that were true, that doesn't mean it isn't available to listen to.. I've not heard any of it, whether dead or alive.

    That said, I've managed to hold back from making any comments about Oasis. ;)
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  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    *cough* SLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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  • Yefa
    Yefa Posts: 1,134
    Black Sabbath is essential. They are not only one of the founding bands of heavy metal as it's thought of today, they're also one of the best bands of all time. Start with the self-titled debut & go from there.

    I'm also a Megadeth fan. Rust In Peace is their best album and is considered by many metal fans to be among the best the genre has to offer.

    I"m a huge fan of early Metallica, especially Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets.

    Sepultura used to be great when the Cavalera brothers were both in the band. Their 4-album run of Beneath The Remains/Arise/Chaos A.D./Roots is well worth checking out.

    Voivod was an amazing if not quite as well-known band. Some of their best albums included Killing Technology, Dimension Hatross, and Nothingface.

    The death metal subgenre is an acquired taste. If you can deal with the growly vocals, I'd recommend Death, Obituary, and Morbid Angel (all from Florida) and Entombed, At The Gates, and Opeth (all from Sweden).

    Slayer's album Reign In Blood is their most celebrated - about a half hour of pummeling assault.

    In addition to Sabbath, I'd recommend checking out such older bands as Deep Purple, Motorhead, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and UFO (Mike McCready is a fan of the last one).
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Metallica + Pantera + Mastodon = BEST METAL!
  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    mole1985 wrote:
    Pantera will be up your street i think.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZ9bL2WGBE

    Also Soulfly, Fear Factory, Black label Society, Motorhead and Rammstein

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrsgNbBI9xI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY
    Niiiiiiiiiice :D:D

    And also this...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJF6xT2Y9gU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAyg1Ioq_cA


    :D
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  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    I think these are amongst the best metal CD's to have come out in the past few years.

    These 3 are more technical in nature. Vocals can be rough (or in Opeth's case, freaking beautiful)
    Opeth - Watershed
    Meshuggah - ObZen
    Mastodon - Blood Mountain

    These 2 are more shoegaze, less vocals heavy on atmosphere
    Isis - In the Absence of Truth
    Pelican - The Fire in Our Throats Will Becken the Thaw

    These are more of your old school-style Sabbath influence types
    Strapping Young Lad - City
    High On Fire - Blessed Black Wings

    These are considered more Black Metal with atmospheric qualities
    Wolves in the Throne Room - Two Hunters
    Summoning - Stronghold

    These 2 are so good it makes my head spin.
    Alcest - Le Secret
    Amesoeurs - Ruines Humaines

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  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    urbanhippie wrote:
    Niiiiiiiiiice :D:D

    And also this...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJF6xT2Y9gU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAyg1Ioq_cA


    :D

    I prefer these

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfXMR3ZNoek

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaHnvrGQUtg - what a way to open an album.
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  • MLC2006
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    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I forgot to mention.. I find it impossible to take most Metallica seriously. I understand how monumental it was, but I guess you had to be there. It's cheesy, reminds me of boys' cartoons and I'd file it under 'Old skool' along with Megadeth.


    In your first post, you said you want "rhythm, technicality, and change of tempo" and in your second post you said you can't take Metallica seriously. It's a complete contradiction, because

    1. James Hetfield is, imo, the best rhythm guitarist ever and definitely the most underrated.

    and

    2. there is no band EVER that can change tempo multiple times within one song the way that Metallica could on their 4 good albums.


    and for the "technicality" part, I'd say Hammett is pretty technical, but I don't even care much about the lead stuff, it's the rhythm and the tempo changes.


    their lyrics aren't for Rhodes Scholars, ok. they've done some asshole moves, ie Napster, ok. their last 3 albums have sucked balls, ok. but if you can't take them seriously, then rhythm and change of tempo are 2 things that you are NOT looking for because they are the masters of both. I highly suggest you get "Master of Puppets" and "...And Justice For All". if you are not a fan after listening to those 2 albums beginning to end, then metal is not your cup of tea imo.
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