The hard rock/MetaL/80's metal thread

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  • Feedbacker
    Feedbacker Posts: 35
    They are black metal so yes.

    I used to listen to them a lot actually, not so much anymore. Not to say I'm not still a fan but I've just moved onto other things.
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    I don't listen to the black metal stuff. The cookie monster type vocals just don't do it for me, and it seems pretty repetitive and just heavy for the sake of being heavy. It has its place but not for me.

    That being said, you have 10 posts total and 3 are in this thread. You should strive to have 66.6% of your posts in the metal thread. That would rule!
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  • Feedbacker
    Feedbacker Posts: 35
    Black metal isn't very heavy, it's just really fuzzy and underproduced for the sake of sounding evil. The tempos are often extremely high and it is often very repetitive too. It has more rasps and shrieks rather than the cookie monster growls you are thinking of that is often found in death metal. It's all about the dark atmosphere rather than trying to show off riffs and be crushingly heavy like in death metal. It was kind of created as an anti death metal type of thing (kind of like how punk was to rock)

    Like I said I'm more into the folk inspired stuff anyways.

    Anyways, for anybody who cares here are some recomendations based on what I like

    Immortal's Sons Of Northern Darkness and At The Heart Of Winter are some really great newer BM albums that are very thrashy with awesome riffs and drumwork. The early BM is the shit most people get scared of/turned off from when they listen to it, these albums are a little different and seems to go places rather than just a steady drone of guitar and blast beat drums.

    Ulver's first album Bergtatt - Et Eeventyr i 5 Captiler is an amazing album tbh, it's about 35 minutes long and has some folk elements in it, and clean vocals on some parts. It's very relaxing and uplifting (unlike most BM) and I recomend it to anybody who is into Black Metal and hasn't heard it before.

    A great band that blends folk and metal is Finsterforst, their song Lauf Der Welt is probably my favorite metal song of all time.
  • NewDamage
    NewDamage Posts: 1,913
    Feedbacker wrote:
    I mean like, extreme metal. I was just busting balls because most of what has been talked about on page one is just heavy metal/80's thrash bands.

    Let me re-phrase; Are there any fans of death metal, black metal, or any other sub genre other than thrash?

    I personally love black(leaning more towards the folkish side mostly) doom, and some death sometimes. I love some post-metal bands but idk if that's technically a genre or why people even call it metal. It's just thicker post rock with harsh vocals really.

    I was in the Tampa area in the early 90s when Floridian death metal exploded. You should do yourself a favor if you haven't already checked out Death, Atheist, Cynic, Malevolent Creation, Morbid Angel, Deicide. To me that's true death metal, not the Gothenburg crap (though some of it is decent). As far as black metal...I was always a big Emperor fan. You hear any of Ihsahn's solo stuff?
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  • Feedbacker
    Feedbacker Posts: 35
    Oh definately, all of those bands are great but I'm not a big death metal fan. Well I am kind of but not as much as black and folk. Have you heard of Decrepit Birth? They are pretty cool. Really technical though. I saw them live once opening for The Black Dahlia Murder. How about Bolt Thrower? Love some of their stuff.

    TBH I like a few bands people refer to as not being "real death metal" like Amon Amarth and The Black Dahlia Murder (first album). I'm seeing Amon Amarth in a few months with Belphegor and Ensiferum opening. I like Belphegor and haven't checked out Ensiferum yet.

    Yeah I bought Ihsahn's new CD the week it came out (few months ago?) when I saw it on the new release shelf of Newbury Comics because I new he was in Emperor and was listening to them heavily at the time. I only listened to it a few times. I've been meaning to give it another listen. I remember liking some of it but not the whole thing.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    NewDamage wrote:
    I was in the Tampa area in the early 90s when Floridian death metal exploded. You should do yourself a favor if you haven't already checked out Death, Atheist, Cynic, Malevolent Creation, Morbid Angel, Deicide. To me that's true death metal, not the Gothenburg crap (though some of it is decent). As far as black metal...I was always a big Emperor fan. You hear any of Ihsahn's solo stuff?
    Death, Atheist and Cynic are killer. Definitely better than the Gothenburg bands.

    I'm more of a black metal fan though. Love Burzum and enjoy Emperor, early Darkthrone, Mayhem and some of the french shit like Vlad Tepes.

    As someone mentioned, Bergtatt by Ulver is AMAZING.
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    So, are the Mayhem guys for real is that crazy stuff total gimmickery?
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    fanch75 wrote:
    So, are the Mayhem guys for real is that crazy stuff total gimmickery?
    Well the band as they are now are, I'd imagine, are just like any other metal band who use gimmicks and "evil" imagery. They only have about one original member though. In the past they've had one singer who killed himself and a bassist who murdered their guitarist who himself advocated rape and murder as ways to destroy judao-christian doctrines... :rolleyes:

    Must be something in the water in Norway. Or in the woods.
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Mayhem are nuts. They are on a DVD called "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey" and they are interviewed on it. The interview was cut short.

    I really, really wish the interviewer had asked Mayhem if they like Bon Jovi and Warrant, and which member of Mayhem gets the most chicks after the gigs. That'd be hilarious.
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  • Feedbacker
    Feedbacker Posts: 35
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Death, Atheist and Cynic are killer. Definitely better than the Gothenburg bands.

    I'm more of a black metal fan though. Love Burzum and enjoy Emperor, early Darkthrone, Mayhem and some of the french shit like Vlad Tepes.

    As someone mentioned, Bergtatt by Ulver is AMAZING.

    Yes Yes Yes. Love all those BM bands you listed, and I was the one who mentioned Ulver.
  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    though I did grow up on 80's metal (including all those Hair bands) will always have a place for it, I currently listen to more atmospheric BM. Bands like Wolves in the Throne Room, Summoning, Nadja, Alcest and Amesoeurs. Xasthur intrigues me, and Wold is probably the most difficult band I have ever attempted to get into. I find Emperor a tough listen however I enjoy the 2 releases I have. Darkthrone/Mayhem I have just so I could get a picture of the beginning. I don't listen to them much.

    I have my tickets for the Opeth/High On Fire/The Baroness show in October. That should be very, very good.

    Can't much get into DM, it just doesn't work for me. I don't know where Pig Destroyer fall into all this (metal genres are annoying) but they are solid as hell.

    the new Priest CD is fantastic.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    transplant wrote:
    though I did grow up on 80's metal (including all those Hair bands) will always have a place for it, I currently listen to more atmospheric BM. Bands like Wolves in the Throne Room, Summoning, Nadja, Alcest and Amesoeurs. Xasthur intrigues me, and Wold is probably the most difficult band I have ever attempted to get into. I find Emperor a tough listen however I enjoy the 2 releases I have. Darkthrone/Mayhem I have just so I could get a picture of the beginning. I don't listen to them much.
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    Wolves in the Throne Room are great. I wouldn't call Nadja black metal though. They're more a drone/doom band, and a damn fine one at that.

    Ever heard Paysage D'Hiver? Swiss ambient black metal. VERY lo-fi production but insanely atmospheric.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Wolves in the Throne Room are great. I wouldn't call Nadja black metal though. They're more a drone/doom band, and a damn fine one at that.

    Ever heard Paysage D'Hiver? Swiss ambient black metal. VERY lo-fi production but insanely atmospheric.

    You have a pretty ecclectic taste in music. I'd like to see what your CD collection looks like.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    fanch75 wrote:
    You have a pretty ecclectic taste in music. I'd like to see what your CD collection looks like.
    I'll confess to downloading a LOT, hence the eclecticism, although if I could afford to (I'm just a student) I would get it all on CD.

    Anyway, knock yourself. Here's most of my collection :D Haven't got round to cataloguing everything but maybe one day.

    http://rateyourmusic.com/~Genesis_Jaime
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  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I wouldn't call Nadja black metal though. They're more a drone/doom band, and a damn fine one at that.

    Ever heard Paysage D'Hiver? Swiss ambient black metal. VERY lo-fi production but insanely atmospheric.
    ha! I stuck Nadja in there at the end. You are correct, they aren't black metal.

    I haven't heard Paysage D'Hiver. Sounds right up my alley.

    I really hope someone out there has attempted Wold - Screech Owl. I want others take on it. It literally makes my head hurt.
  • NothingSound
    NothingSound Posts: 198
    Anyone else into Walls of Jericho?
  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    Feedbacker wrote:
    A great band that blends folk and metal is Finsterforst, their song Lauf Der Welt is probably my favorite metal song of all time.
    do you listen to Korpiklaani? I think they are fantastic fun. If so, how do you compare the 2 bands?
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    It's FRIDAY and I'm in need of heaviness
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  • Feedbacker
    Feedbacker Posts: 35
    I have heard a few songs from Korpiklaani but it was a while ago. What album would you recommend?
  • lisam
    lisam Posts: 75
    The 80's hair band was my era. All the way from Poison, Motley Crue, Skid Row and even Warrant. People put shit on them but they were crucial for the time, they were the stepping stone from the tragic time that was 80's pop and rolled it over into the 90's grunge. I can still listen to them know and know every fucking lyric.

    And the new Motley Crue album and what ive heard of Chinese Democracy sounds brilliant. Also worth making a note of is Nikki Sixx's band Sixx Am

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