The new Gibson Robot guitar

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Interesting. The intonation thing almost seems harder than doing it the standard way.Camden I '06, Camden II '06, Bonnaroo '08, Camden I '08, Camden II '08, Philly Spectrum II/III/IV '09, MSG I '10, MSG II '10, Made In America '12, Wrigley '13, Brooklyn II '13, Philly I '13, Philly II '13, ...0
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it does looks purdy
interesting concept...
so if it's a cool as they are saying, it would be wicked cool to be able to go to an alternate tuning in the middle of a song.
Jimmy Page had a red Les Paul that he had fitted with an automatic tuning system. so yeah.
the only thing i have a bit of an issue with is that the main attraction is the self tuning. tuning a guitar should be one of the first things you learn, If you can't tune your own guitar,with a tuner or not, you shouldnt be playing one, but then i guess first time players won't be picking up one of them any time soon.0 -
The one thing that they're not accounting for though is the warpage of the neck... the intonation thing is pretty cool but you won't really be fixing the source of the problem if you don't address the neck curvature.It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win0
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amazing feat of engineering! but.... if you ask me its a very pricey gimmick........ how long before we dont actually even have to play anymore?? that said though some of the videos are quite ammusing and im really not at all surprised that matt bellamy of muse has had the system installed into one of his guitars. (bet its in one of his mansons those guitars of his are virtually space shuttles anyway!)I'm not saying stupidity should be a capital offence, but what say we take the safety labels off everything and let nature run it's course?0
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When I read the words "Neck CPU and Bridge PCB" I died a little inside.
The neck curvature would most likely create a problem. Unless the only tuning you were switching to is drop D or D standard from E standard, I don't think switching tunings mid-song would be very useful.
As already mentioned, the concept of a self-tuning guitar would not be a good idea for a beginner -- but what kind of beginner could afford one of these?
With that being said, who is this guitar supposed to be for? I can't imagine many experienced players with that type of budget paying for a self tuning guitar. Anyone who's played a year should be able to tune by ear moderately well. And all the electronics sound like a problem waiting to happen.
It reminds me of modern cars. As I get newer cars I seem to get more and more features I don't want or need. These features constantly go wrong and are incredibly expensive to get fixed. Sure that digital compass was nice when it worked but now it's telling me North is Southwest just before going to an error message. Those 15 buttons controlling my seat were nice but now half of them don't work -- I would've preferred a few levers that would actually be able to last the entire lifetime of the damn car...0 -
I'm generally pretty disintersted in this kind of technology, mainly because I expect to fail and either need reopair or just not work any more.
But, I'm always fascinated by the idea that tuning a guitar by ear should be an essential or expected skill.
There are very few instruments which are tuned by teh user. The only ones I can think of are the violin family and the guitar family. TYpically, kids learnign violin will have their teacher tune their instruments for them for months or eyars before they tune their own, and being fretless, tehy can adjust the "tuning" every time they fret a note. Woodwind, pianos, harps etc, all tuned by design or a professional tuner.
For those blessed with perfect pitch, sure, it's a doddle, but everyonoe else will only ever do it passably well, as it is very difficult to be precise.
I'm always intruiged when I hand a perfectly tuned guitar to somebody, and the first thing they do is adjust the tuning.
his happened recently, and it was interesting to see the results when I ran it against a strobe tuner shortly after.
I have no shame in always using a tuner to get my guitars in tune, and according help my cloth ears get in tune.
Few things hold back your progress in guitar like poor tuning.Music is not a competetion.0 -
lucylespian wrote:I'm generally pretty disintersted in this kind of technology, mainly because I expect to fail and either need reopair or just not work any more.
But, I'm always fascinated by the idea that tuning a guitar by ear should be an essential or expected skill.
There are very few instruments which are tuned by teh user. The only ones I can think of are the violin family and the guitar family. TYpically, kids learnign violin will have their teacher tune their instruments for them for months or eyars before they tune their own, and being fretless, tehy can adjust the "tuning" every time they fret a note. Woodwind, pianos, harps etc, all tuned by design or a professional tuner.
For those blessed with perfect pitch, sure, it's a doddle, but everyonoe else will only ever do it passably well, as it is very difficult to be precise.
I'm always intruiged when I hand a perfectly tuned guitar to somebody, and the first thing they do is adjust the tuning.
his happened recently, and it was interesting to see the results when I ran it against a strobe tuner shortly after.
I have no shame in always using a tuner to get my guitars in tune, and according help my cloth ears get in tune.
Few things hold back your progress in guitar like poor tuning.0 -
Jooooosh wrote:Well said!
You know, I really fucking hate being partially quoted to take things out of context and change meaning.
I interpret it as being aggressive and malicious.
I champion your right to disagree with me, but don't piss me off by doing what you just did and not expect me to take offence.Music is not a competetion.0 -
lucylespian wrote:You know, I really fucking hate being partially quoted to take things out of context and change meaning.
I interpret it as being aggressive and malicious.
I champion your right to disagree with me, but don't piss me off by doing what you just did and not expect me to take offence.
What? I bolded the points I most agreed with.. I wasn't being sarcastic.
I think you're referring to the "I expect to fail..." part? That's what you said, I assumed everyone who read that would know you just accidentally left out the word "it".
If you read my post you'd see I said I also thought it would probably break and be expensive to fix, as well as the idea of a self-tuning guitar wouldn't be a good idea for beginners.0 -
Jooooosh wrote:What? I bolded the points I most agreed with.. I wasn't being sarcastic.
I think you're referring to the "I expect to fail..." part? That's what you said, I assumed everyone who read that would know you just accidentally left out the word "it".
If you read my post you'd see I said I also thought it would probably break and be expensive to fix, as well as the idea of a self-tuning guitar wouldn't be a good idea for beginners.
NO, I'm noffended that you bolded part of a sentence about tuning being non-essential, and making it look at a glance as though I said it was essential.
You were not agreeing with me on that point, you were disagreeing with me, but making it look like I was agreeing with you.
Disagree all you like, but don't fuck with my meaning.Music is not a competetion.0 -
lucylespian wrote:NO, I'm noffended that you bolded part of a sentence about tuning being non-essential, and making it look at a glance as though I said it was essential.
You were not agreeing with me on that point, you were disagreeing with me, but making it look like I was agreeing with you.
Disagree all you like, but don't fuck with my meaning.
Oh, I missed the "I'm always fascinated by the idea that" and misunderstood you. I thought you did mean tuning should be an essential skill.. my bad, we are in disagreement with that then.0 -
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so the whole selling point is that it makes intonation and tuning easier?? I find the tune-o-matic bridge to be quite simple to get good intonation and Grover tuners will keep my LP in tune for weeks at a time.
a company that could've actually benefitted from this technology would've been Fender or any other company that uses floating bridges that are pains in the ass to get intonated right.
as a side note, I find the blue/silverburst color to be quite ugly.0 -
I think this is a really cool idea. Even if you are a professional guitarist, this thing makes it so easy and FAST that all you do is press the button, bam you're tuned up in about 10 seconds between songs, better than checking all 6 strings on your pedal tuner. And, if you're a newer guitar player, having your guitar in tune all the time will probably train your ear quicker. You'll probably be just as able to tune the guitar by ear anyway.
I'd buy one if I had enough money. If I saw this on an SG I'd be sold sold sold.If idle hands are the devil's workshop, he must not be very productive.
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Does anyone know how much this will cost? I can't find the price.Camden I '06, Camden II '06, Bonnaroo '08, Camden I '08, Camden II '08, Philly Spectrum II/III/IV '09, MSG I '10, MSG II '10, Made In America '12, Wrigley '13, Brooklyn II '13, Philly I '13, Philly II '13, ...0
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GivenToCarve wrote:Does anyone know how much this will cost? I can't find the price.0
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what about the Fender VG has anyone heard any reviews on this guitar?9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/130
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Ehh, why not just learn to tune and set up the guitar yourself - it looks like another fancy gadget for
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what really, really irks me about the advertising and hype behind this is, that gibson are talking about this being a 'limited edition first run that will surely go on to become a highly sought-after Gibson instrument', and then saying it will soon join the ranks of models such as the 59 Les Paul Standard which sell for between $100,000-$500,000.
it might be highly sought after, but it will never ever join the ranks of the 59 standard.
if any one believes that, then they are an idiot.0 -
Hmm, good idea, not too sure about the name though. It's interesting that I saw those self-tuning tuners 2 years ago at the London Guitar Show. Surprised no one used them until now.0
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