Gig report thread

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Well, you're a little limited with what you can do with bends - watch out for that octave G! - but my 12-string style is completely different from my 6-string lead approach. I make more use of finger slide (with vibrato), where I'd normally bend playing lead electric 6-string.

The trick with a 12-string is to play it like a 12-string. When you're fingerpicking, play with or even make up your own picking patterns that bring out either the sound of the octave strings or the chimes of complementary strings in octave unison. That's when the instrument really reveals its natural chorus effects.

Yeah,I'm thinking it's not hard to substitutute a bend with a little finger slide.
What you are really saying , is that I NEED a 12 string isn't it, or I'll die unhappy wondering what could have been.
They strum so nice too.

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

They're what a univibe was invented for. Trust me!

HAvn'r got one of those, but I do have a H&K Rotosphere. I'm goign to look at some more 12 strings over the next few weeks. I'm really leaning toward it at present. Also, if I don't get one soon, the arthritis in my left index MCP joint will get too bad, and I won't be able to handle one. It's gonna be hard work even now.

lucylespian wrote:

Also, if I don't get one soon, the arthritis in my left index MCP joint will get too bad, and I won't be able to handle one. It's gonna be hard work even now.

oh crap lucy, sorry to hear that. spend more time warming up, no booze, no drugs, no sugar. gaaah. we're all gonna get it one day. seriously though lucy, i hope it stays at a managable level for a good long while yet for you.

lucylespian wrote:

Don't drink, never did do drugs, Ken Clean-Air Systems, thet's me.

But no sugar, are you crazy woman ?? I live on teh stuff. Besides which, if you mention glucosamine next, you might note that "glucos" is a big chunk of that.

It's not bad yet, but I have the start of primary nodal OA in my left index MCP and right index PIP joints. The DIP joints in my middle fingers are just starting to veer side-ways a littel too, though I have no pain there yet.
Never mind, look at Keef's hands, they are terrible, and he still plays.

i'm addicted to the sugary stuff too. at work i'm always doing my BSL and breathe a huge sigh of relief when i see it's perfect. never changes. thank god. i love my chocolate.

NO gig report, but band practice last ngiht.
Any, we cut down to just the four piece. Then we get a call from another guy who saw us play and wants to join us. He was pretty good himself, so we go, OK, come for an audition, we send him a list of songs that we will be rehearsing, 5 songs, not 500.
He turns up, I had to loan him a guitar, but I knew that. Anyway, he does not know any of teh songs, but plays well, and picks stuff up as we go pretty well. Trouble is, he starts over-playing, and it gets worse and worse. He doesn't know the riffs, so he picks up on the key and starst playing lead over the top, which eventually gets almost to the shredding stage.
On one song, there is just a defined riff, and before, I said, sit this one out. So he starts the lead stuff straight away, So I stop, and say no dude, sit it out.
Get to the end of the night, and I've got very mixed feelings. I've just scaked two other guys for playing too little, and now it looks like I'm gonna diss this guy for playing too much. I wonder if I'm looking like I'm selfish, but the rest of us play with respect for everyone else sonic space, and get tight on songs really quickly because we are listening a LOT to each other.
He's a nice guy and I'm thinking he over-played cos he was keen and wanted ot impress us, and he played lead stuff cos he did not know the songs of the riffs, so initially I kinda forgave that a bit. But then it occurred to me that he had not even listen to one song once t know how they went, and that kinda shits me a bit. At the end we had a chat, and I said, yeah, I'm not sure, but lets go with him, but the more I think about it, the less I feel like I want to be fighting for space. The singer got lost in the mix a lot too, which bugged me as well. I lay back when the vocal is important, and she steps aside for the lead breaks, but he was all over the top of both of us.
Whaddya reckon ????

lucylespian wrote:

NO gig report, but band practice last ngiht.
Any, we cut down to just the four piece. Then we get a call from another guy who saw us play and wants to join us. He was pretty good himself, so we go, OK, come for an audition, we send him a list of songs that we will be rehearsing, 5 songs, not 500.
He turns up, I had to loan him a guitar, but I knew that. Anyway, he does not know any of teh songs, but plays well, and picks stuff up as we go pretty well. Trouble is, he starts over-playing, and it gets worse and worse. He doesn't know the riffs, so he picks up on the key and starst playing lead over the top, which eventually gets almost to the shredding stage.
On one song, there is just a defined riff, and before, I said, sit this one out. So he starts the lead stuff straight away, So I stop, and say no dude, sit it out.
Get to the end of the night, and I've got very mixed feelings. I've just scaked two other guys for playing too little, and now it looks like I'm gonna diss this guy for playing too much. I wonder if I'm looking like I'm selfish, but the rest of us play with respect for everyone else sonic space, and get tight on songs really quickly because we are listening a LOT to each other.
He's a nice guy and I'm thinking he over-played cos he was keen and wanted ot impress us, and he played lead stuff cos he did not know the songs of the riffs, so initially I kinda forgave that a bit. But then it occurred to me that he had not even listen to one song once t know how they went, and that kinda shits me a bit. At the end we had a chat, and I said, yeah, I'm not sure, but lets go with him, but the more I think about it, the less I feel like I want to be fighting for space. The singer got lost in the mix a lot too, which bugged me as well. I lay back when the vocal is important, and she steps aside for the lead breaks, but he was all over the top of both of us.
Whaddya reckon ????

i'm a bit unsure as to why he would come to an audition without a guitar and without learning the 5 songs lucy. i'd be a bit worried about his committment.
(although if it meant i got to play lola, i might even pull that one myself )

i'd sit him down and clearly explain to him what our expectations of him are, and how we see his role in the band. more than likely, he may have just been over excited and trying to impress. he obviously thinks you guys go ok, because you said he had seen you perform and contacted you to audition. that's high praise right there for you guys. hopefully he will be better when he learns the songs. try and talk to him and make sure you are on the same page. you said he was a cool guy so hopefully you can come to some agreement and a good playing relationship that keeps everyone happy.

good luck with that

Pj_Gurl wrote:

i'm a bit unsure as to why he would come to an audition without a guitar and without learning the 5 songs lucy. i'd be a bit worried about his committment.
(although if it meant i got to play lola, i might even pull that one myself )

i'd sit him down and clearly explain to him what our expectations of him are, and how we see his role in the band. more than likely, he may have just been over excited and trying to impress. he obviously thinks you guys go ok, because you said he had seen you perform and contacted you to audition. that's high praise right there for you guys. hopefully he will be better when he learns the songs. try and talk to him and make sure you are on the same page. you said he was a cool guy so hopefully you can come to some agreement and a good playing relationship that keeps everyone happy.

good luck with that

Nope, I sacked him. I thought about it a lot, but I decided I go to band rehearsal to have fun. I do leadership and confilct resolution and all tha shit all the time at work, and I have no desire to do it a fun time. If it were a problem within our established band, different story, but we just get on so easy. This guy was out looking for a band, we were not really looking for a guitarist, so it was kinda easy to decide to leave him out. If he could not work out for himself that we sent him a song-list for a reason, then too bad.
Seriously, at one stage, when our singer ducked out for a piss, I started playing Enter Sandman, and the drummer picked up on it. The audition guy proceeded to solo over the top of the whole thing, riff, solo, and the post-solo breakdown. He also bailed without thinkning about paying for a share of the reheasal room. A lot of this stuff has filtered in since my original post.

lucylespian wrote:

Nope, I sacked him. I thought about it a lot, but I decided I go to band rehearsal to have fun. I do leadership and confilct resolution and all tha shit all the time at work, and I have no desire to do it a fun time. If it were a problem within our established band, different story, but we just get on so easy. This guy was out looking for a band, we were not really looking for a guitarist, so it was kinda easy to decide to leave him out. If he could not work out for himself that we sent him a song-list for a reason, then too bad.
Seriously, at one stage, when our singer ducked out for a piss, I started playing Enter Sandman, and the drummer picked up on it. The audition guy proceeded to solo over the top of the whole thing, riff, solo, and the post-solo breakdown. He also bailed without thinkning about paying for a share of the reheasal room. A lot of this stuff has filtered in since my original post.

:eek: i think you made a wise decision. that would not have been fun at all.

lucylespian wrote:

Hey, if they were originals, then no way can you play them wrong !!
Sounds like you a little hard on yourself. Chances are the crowd thought you were great. So long as most of the song is there, good time crowds don't really criticise too much. A difficukt lead-up with rain and stuff is likely to put you off too.

We tried to play through the rain but it started to downpour and our gear was getting ruined. I shorted out my univox vintage amp when it rained I didn't have it covered. My board was drenched along with my 15 pedals...thankfully, they all (but one) worked when we played in the garage.

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Awww, shit, I forgot to report a couple of gigs. Anyway, played a nice set tonight in the upstairs room of a pub in central London. No monitors were needed, anyway. I could hear everything. 24-track mixer. The mix was right for my 12-string, too: more bass and less treble. Always a good thing when there's a wah pedal in the picture.

Talking of pictures, here's one from tonight:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc29/finsbury_photos/14-08-08_2158.jpg

Hehehe, feckin' photographers, filming each other ...

Whens your next gig, I might come down for the show?