Red House

xtremehardy388
xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
edited June 2008 in Musicians and Gearheads
Anyone know what guitar/amp/effects Jimmi's using?
Grand Rapids '04, Detroit '06
JEFF HARDY AND JEFF AMENT USED TO LOOK THE SAME
"Pearl Jam always eases my mind and fires me up at the same time.”-Jeff Hardy
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  • Hebejebe
    Hebejebe Posts: 108
    Hendrix's rig in '68.

    http://guitargeek.com/rigview/354/
  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    I don't think he is using any effects. It's pretty much guitar/amp/fingers.

    On the live in Sweden version, he is using an SG custom into a Marshall. I don't know what it was originally recorded with. I don't think it matters. It's all about feel. Lots of bends, pre-bends, hammer-ons, trills etc. Like most of Jimi's songs, it's a master-class in touch.
    Music is not a competetion.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=50DbjogXuyc

    Quite possibly the best version of this song I've seen.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • All Those Yesterdays
    All Those Yesterdays Posts: 2,723
    keeponrockin wrote:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=50DbjogXuyc

    Quite possibly the best version of this song I've seen.


    Apparently I have a new band I have to look into now!
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    All Those Yesterdays wrote:
    Apparently I have a new band I have to look into now!
    SPECTACULAR band, one of the best guitar players out there. I got the oppritunity to jam with him a couple months ago. I have never been so nervous as when he gave me 'the nod' to start playin a solo. I was amazed that one of my guitar heroes was humble enough to back off and play some rhythm!
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • All Those Yesterdays
    All Those Yesterdays Posts: 2,723
    keeponrockin wrote:
    SPECTACULAR band, one of the best guitar players out there. I got the oppritunity to jam with him a couple months ago. I have never been so nervous as when he gave me 'the nod' to start playin a solo. I was amazed that one of my guitar heroes was humble enough to back off and play some rhythm!


    Over the top cool bud. Congrats! I'm definately going to check them out.
    E. Lansing-98 Columbus-00,03,10 Detroit-00,03 (1&2),06, 14 Cleveland-03,06,10 Toledo-04, Grand Rapids-04,06 London-05, Toronto-05, Indianapolis 10, East Troy (1&2) 11, Chicago 13, Detroit 14

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Er, off the top of my head, it varied over time. Live in 1968-69, we'd usually be talking the white SG > Vox Wah > Octavia (hardly ever in the setup and very rarely used) > Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face > Marshall amps. From late 1969 onwards, you'd see the Univibe and Univbe expression pedal between the Fuzz Face and Marshalls. But the main effects used would be wah and fuzz. The fuzz would kick in at the start of the solo. The wah would come in after the "jazz" section, and Jimi would play twelve bars unaccompanied, flirting with time, before the band would come in again.

    In May 1968, Jimi was using a black Les Paul for Red House. At Woodstock (August 1969), he used his famous white Strat and broke his thin E string during the solo. During his 1970 tour, he'd usually use his black Flying V but sometimes his "black beauty" Strat (his favourite guitar).

    On the original studio version, recorded in December 1966, Noel was playing the bass part on a Burns electric six-string guitar, and he'd sometimes switch to guitar for live renditions of the song.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Live versions to hunt down:

    Fillmore East, May 1968
    Stockholm, 9th January 1969 (not the televised version from the first show; the version from the second show is much better)
    Albert Hall, 24 February 1969
    LA Forum, 26 April 1969
    San Diego, 24 May 1969 (included on Hendrix in the West)
    Baltimore, 13 June 1970
    Randall's Island, 17 July 1970
    Isle of Wight, 30 August 1970
  • seanw1010
    seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    i always thought he didnt really use any effects on that one, just maybe some subtle wah every once in a while
    could be wrong tho
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • xtremehardy388
    xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    seanw1010 wrote:
    i always thought he didnt really use any effects on that one, just maybe some subtle wah every once in a while
    could be wrong tho
    I noticed a delay
    Grand Rapids '04, Detroit '06
    JEFF HARDY AND JEFF AMENT USED TO LOOK THE SAME
    "Pearl Jam always eases my mind and fires me up at the same time.”-Jeff Hardy
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    xtremehardy388 wrote:
    I noticed a delay


    Ah, you're talking about the studio version of Red House originally released on the US edition of Smash Hits in 1969. Jimi did a series of takes of Red House at De Lane Lea studios in London on December 13th 1966. The version on the UK version of Are You Experienced is pretty much from a live take, whereas the US version features a new vocal overdub and some studio delay effects, added on 29th March 1967 (I think, at Olympic studios). The delay was done mechanically, not by stompboxes.

    The 1966 studio take doesn't feature any stompbox effects, as far as I know. If he used a Fuzz Face, it's barely detectable. Jimi didn't start using a wah wah regularly until July 1967. (The wah effects on I Don't Live Today, on Are You Experienced, were hand-done, in the studio).

    Here's the Randall's Island 1970 version, with fuzz, wah, and the kitchen sink thrown in:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJbhpo_tY9k
  • xtremehardy388
    xtremehardy388 Posts: 2,759
    Wait, so there's more than one studio version? WOW
    Grand Rapids '04, Detroit '06
    JEFF HARDY AND JEFF AMENT USED TO LOOK THE SAME
    "Pearl Jam always eases my mind and fires me up at the same time.”-Jeff Hardy
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    xtremehardy388 wrote:
    Wait, so there's more than one studio version? WOW


    PM me, and I'll see about making you up a file of the entire December 13th 1966 Red House sessions, this very day. The taper friendly stuff/legal alternate mixes, of course.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Ah, you're talking about the studio version of Red House originally released on the US edition of Smash Hits in 1969. Jimi did a series of takes of Red House at De Lane Lea studios in London on December 13th 1966. The version on the UK version of Are You Experienced is pretty much from a live take, whereas the US version features a new vocal overdub and some studio delay effects, added on 29th March 1967 (I think, at Olympic studios). The delay was done mechanically, not by stompboxes.

    The 1966 studio take doesn't feature any stompbox effects, as far as I know. If he used a Fuzz Face, it's barely detectable. Jimi didn't start using a wah wah regularly until July 1967. (The wah effects on I Don't Live Today, on Are You Experienced, were hand-done, in the studio).

    Here's the Randall's Island 1970 version, with fuzz, wah, and the kitchen sink thrown in:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJbhpo_tY9k
    awesome fins. thank you.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    For reference, here's the take of Red House that was first released on the UK version of Are You Experienced, in May 1967:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psUTJeDdAVQ

    Here's the US version, which was first released on Smash Hits in 1969 and later included in the 1997 US remaster of Are You Experienced:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkxP5gXYb2U


    I have to say, I've always preferred the UK version/take. It's a more complete and spontaneous performance.

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