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  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 141
    The Original Dunlop Wah...Which one exactly do u mean?
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  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 141
    You mean crybaby classic?
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    It does matter which one you use. If the quality of build and ultimate tone you get at the end are important to you.

    Dunlop changed the way the Original Crybaby's were constructed using the wrong components in some cases and incorrect values in others. The result is a weaker thinner sound that is harsh in some cases. The reason Teese wahs are so good 1) they are built well made by and expert hand and made to last. 2)Teese has literally worked on every type of analog wah in existance he knows them in and out. E-mail him he'll tell you whatever you need or want to know.

    They are built for pros. If you already have experience with a crybaby any Teese Wah is a step up.

    The RMC 1 is mainly for the SRV/JH tone. It's open and fairly hot.

    The Wizard Wah is designed to work with any combination of Pickups. So you can use it with humbuckers or single coils some wahs don't sound good clean this one does.

    The RMC 2 is adjustable on the outside of the case so you can fine tune it.

    The RMC 3 is variably adjustable on the inside so you can custom tailor a wah sound you like and keep it that way.

    The Picture Wah is a precise copy of an original Vox Clyde McCoy with the big open perfect wah sound that they are known for. The Originals go for $500 plus when you can find one.


    It's all personel choice. It depends on how important the Wah is to you and your sound. If you want "the" wah buy a Teese or a Budda, Fulltone Clyde or Vox Clyde McCoy. Try them all out. I think the Crybaby Classic is an outstanding value at $99 but it's not going to be built as well or have the service behind it that a Teese will. There's always the switchless super quiet simplicity of Morley which I currently use but it is overly harsh in the top end nearly unuseable on cleans.

    Try out as many as you can and find your own. Your sound and choices will change over the years. I'm currently looking for a change myself.
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  • RyndamRain
    RyndamRain Posts: 16
    The Original Wah...$79...the one Jimi used, I think...GCB-95 CryBaby

    I will admit, I just had to buy another, but I think the first one lasted me about 10 years...not too bad for 79 bucks...
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by RyndamRain
    The Original Wah...$79...the one Jimi used, I think...

    I will admit, I just had to buy another, but I think the first one lasted me about 10 years...not too bad for 79 bucks...

    Jimi Used a Vox Wah a Fuzz Face (modified by Roger Mayer) a Univox Univibe and several Badass Marshall Plexi stack's and most likely also at some point a Thomas Organ Company Cry Baby. all of which effect his tone but then so does his masterful playing ability The Jim Dunlop buy out didn't come until years later. There is nothing wrong with the Jim Dunlop Cry Baby like I said in fact I believe they go for $69 but it isn't going to sound as good or as accurate as the Wah's built by Geoff Teese. It's all personal preference. I find the sweep on the Dunlop to be thin. I like a wider 2 octave sweep. I believe the Dunlop Jimi Hendrix wahs have a 2 octave sweep. There is nothing ultimately wrong with buying any of them different wah's have different features, they are certainly not all the same. It's really up to the player as each wah really is a seperate instrument that needs to be learned.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Originally posted by mogwai
    I am not good both in technical stuff and english comprehension so i can't understand what's this all about sweep range,smooth top end,overall boost etc....Need all your english skills and knowledge here....

    Not sure if this is explaining it correctly but sweep range is how far it goes from toe up to toe down if that makes any sense. It's the whole range of sound you can get. smooth top end means it doesn't sound harsh and tiny at the top end like some wahs can be.
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  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 141
    I used to have one but I sold it.It was a weak pedal.And it turned my guitars tone into sth plastic I'd say.The sound of it was too fake I mean...I don't intend buying a crybaby soon!!!The only one that seems to be ok is the classic(i can buy this one for 144 euros).The dealer for the picture wah in athens said that the price is 240 euros...mr Teese suggested that i buy the picture wah.I described my gear to him and what i am playing(JH,SRV,PJ,Clapton etc)
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by mogwai
    I used to have one but I sold it.It was a weak pedal.And it turned my guitars tone into sth plastic I'd say.The sound of it was too fake I mean...I don't intend buying a crybaby soon!!!The only one that seems to be ok is the classic(i can buy this one for 144 euros).The dealer for the picture wah in athens said that the price is 240 euros...mr Teese suggested that i buy the picture wah.I described my gear to him and what i am playing(JH,SRV,PJ,Clapton etc)


    you can always check the used on Ebay.

    Exhausted modded his own Vox to his own specs. it just takes a little skill with a soldiering iron.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • RyndamRain
    RyndamRain Posts: 16
    i may have to check out the Teese...sounds like quite a wah - just looked at their page...i might not know what i am missing...i think i might order one right now...

    The Wizard Wah...
  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 141
    I should report this thing going on here to mr Teese in order to get a better price from him
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Good luck.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    for the curious, my bastardized vox.

    http://www3.telus.net/alcoholiday/guitar_pics/vox.jpg

    volume control, sweep toggle (acts like a bass response almost) and voice control (controls presence of wah)

    true bypass, LED and DC adapter added as well.

    still need to do gain/bass response.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    for the curious, my bastardized vox.

    http://www3.telus.net/alcoholiday/guitar_pics/vox.jpg

    volume control, sweep toggle (acts like a bass response almost) and voice control (controls presence of wah)

    true bypass, LED and DC adapter added as well.

    still need to do gain/bass response.

    Beautiful.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    the inside

    http://www3.telus.net/alcoholiday/guitar_pics/vox_guts.jpg
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    did you install the Dip switches yourself?
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    did you install the Dip switches yourself?

    that's just the wiring harness connection. No dips in it.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    that's just the wiring harness connection. No dips in it.

    Oh Ok. Looked like dips. I was wondering if you could change the voicing. It dosen't look all that complicated really.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    wahs are so simple that you can pretty much tune anything you want.

    the voice control i put in goes from 0 to 100K ohms. 0 is no wah, 100K is what the vox mccoy have i think.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Maybe I should just get a vox cheap and mod it myself.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    i'll try to do clips at some point soon. unfortunately, i'm not great with wah.

    all the information to mod these things is public domain now and it's so easy.

    under $80 and the pride of doing it myself is better than giving keeley or fuller a wad of cash.

    the only thing that would be costly to do is the inductor and pot swaps. i haven't done that yet.

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