Wah wah's

mogwai
mogwai Posts: 141
edited December 2003 in Musicians and Gearheads
I am happy that i have to decide what my Xmas present will be.It's going to be a wah wah pedal for sure but i don't know which one.I used to have a crybaby(standard version GCB 95) and now i want sth that doesn't suck my tone that much and that is more versatile.What wah wah's do u use?How many wah wah's have you played and what do u think of them?Which one would u suggest that i buy?I have only 2 in my mind and they are:VOX Wah Wah(149 euros) and Crybaby CB-535Q(179 euros)...I like the VOX's looks a bit more but besides that and the 30 euros less i have to pay for it Crybaby is much more popular...I won't have the possibillity to try them out both so i want your help...Hurry hurry hurry....I want it home by new years eve so I'll have to order till tomorrow noon...
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  • pariah
    pariah Posts: 596
    Who's Wah sound are you after?

    Whatever you say, you're gonna hear the word "Teese" a LOT.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    crybaby 535Q will suck tone as well and there is no way to true bypass it. but it is a very versatile wah. i dumped it though when i learned how to mod my vox.

    bypassing a standard crybaby or a vox V847 is easy.

    the vox V848 (mccoy) is true bypass in stock form.

    i have a heavily modified vox V847. pretty much all the versatility of a 535Q with true bypass. but i did those mods myself.
  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 141
    the store that i buy from is http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/thoiw2_index.html It's the cheaper online store that i have found in europe this far.You can check out the wah wah's form there.I didn't find the vox models you refer...Help I need some body Help not just anybody...
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    For the money a Cry Baby Classic is a good buy Fasel inductor. Much Smoother than the Original Dunlop Crybaby.

    I use a Morley because it's switchless. The Bad Horsie 2 is tuneable.

    The Budda Bud-Wah is a good one as is the Vox 848 (clyde McCoy)

    The best wahs out there are made by Geoffery Teese hands down. The Real Mccoy series. Keep in mind you are going to pay for them but the RMC 1 and Wizard Wah are around $180 or Euros. The Picture Wah (Clyde McCoy) is $235. Teese has modded wah's for 30 or so years so he knows what he's doing and how to get the best most authentic sound.

    Original Clyde Mccoy's will run you around $700 and 846's are around $400 bucks.

    I'd go with a teese if you want to spend that much they are the best.

    Fulltone also has a good Wah called the Clyde.

    If you are technically savvy there are a bunch of mods you can do to a cheaper wah to make it sound awesome a vox for instance.
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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    I like the Vox wahs myself...
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    http://www.analogman.com/mccoy.htm
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  • goto_l
    goto_l Posts: 1,189
    I use 3 different wahs in my set up because no 2 wahs are the same. The only thing I wouldn't use is a dunlop(cry-baby). I can't stand that pedal. I use a bad horsie, though I'm not sure I'd recommend it, kinda hard to get used to at first, plus really agressive on the high end tones. Great for shredding if you like that stuff. My favorite is my old Ibanez wah. It's super clean & sounds nothing close to any other wahs. Good for Chili Peppers type stuff & that classic old Bob Marley sound. I also have the Vox, but almost never use it. It's a bit too noisy for my taste. But it's a good back up or jack of all trades wah. Not really outstading but will be useful if you buy it.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    this is true. I have a bad horsie and I find it harsh in the top end. If I'm not using a compressor. It's almost un useable clean
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  • WiLL75
    WiLL75 Posts: 415
    It's all about the original jim dunlop, but that's just my opinion.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by WiLL75
    It's all about the original jim dunlop, but that's just my opinion.

    "original jim dunlop" is an oxymoron. :D
  • WiLL75
    WiLL75 Posts: 415
    True, there are so many out there.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by WiLL75
    It's all about the original jim dunlop, but that's just my opinion.


    I think you're thinking of Thomas Organ Works.

    Jim Dunlop is basically a predatory company that comes in and buys up good companies learns how to build it cheap package it in the same box as the originals and trade off the good name.
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    i will give dunlop credit for their tremolo and rotovibe though. those are pretty cool.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by exhausted
    i will give dunlop credit for their tremolo and rotovibe though. those are pretty cool.

    yeah. they were fairly innovative and they look cool.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 141
    Many RMC models.RMC-1 RMC-2 RMC-3 ETC.There's an online shop in germany that sells RMC wah wah's....I want that wah wah sound u find in WHY GO soloing...I am sure u can't get it with a crybaby standard wah...It seems that i have to choose between Crybaby classical(144 euros),VOX wah wah(150) and rmc wah's(290 euros for RMC-3)...iI think I'll suscribe a poll in order to decide!!!!!!!!!
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by mogwai
    Many RMC models.RMC-1 RMC-2 RMC-3 ETC.There's an online shop in germany that sells RMC wah wah's....I want that wah wah sound u find in WHY GO soloing...I am sure u can't get it with a crybaby standard wah...It seems that i have to choose between Crybaby classical(144 euros),VOX wah wah(150) and rmc wah's(290 euros for RMC-3)...iI think I'll suscribe a poll in order to decide!!!!!!!!!

    How about an RMC-1?
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  • goto_l
    goto_l Posts: 1,189
    Originally posted by exhausted
    i will give dunlop credit for their tremolo and rotovibe though. those are pretty cool.

    The rotovibe sucks ass, I hate mine. It's a pedal with no sound. I have to overdrive it to even notice it's on. As for a tremelo, my little plastic Ibanez soundtank is as good as the dunlop. The only dulop pedal I like is the Hendrix Octave Fuzz. Dunlop's only quality is that you can drop the pedal on the ground & not worry because they are very well shelled.
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  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 141
    I've cleared up my mind a little bit...I am between RMC2,PICTURE WAH,WIZARD WAH....You can take a look at http://www.realmccoycustom.com/ .What's that classic italian sound that the picture wah has?I am not good both in technical stuff and english comprehension so i can't understand what's this all about sweep range,smooth top end,overall boost etc....Need all your english skills and knowledge here....If u can give some examples about the wah's sound as they are described i would be grateful.I am into that SRV/JH guitar stuff...I play a strat lonestar into a pro junior(only 2 effects are MXR DYNACOMP,TS-9)
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    The RMC 1 is the Vox 846 sound with the traditional mods to make it sound like the JH/SRV wahs a more open sound.

    The Classic Italian sound is the Vox Clyde McCoy (Picture Wah) which used inductors (Fasel) made in Italy. All this can be found on Geoffery Teeses Site. In fact I believe Vox wahs and early Vox King Wah's were made in Italy as well as Thomas Organ Works Crybaby's the company Jim Dunlop bought.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • RyndamRain
    RyndamRain Posts: 16
    I say stick with what has worked throughout the years. The Original Dunlop Wah. If you know how to use it correctly, it doesn't matter which one you use. Using (Playing) a wah takes as much practice as learning to play the guitar itself, well maybe not quite as much....

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