Pearl Jam Fans' Music Critic Roleplay. (Be Honest)

Wow...finally people are starting to see Avocado for what it is..Pearl Jam's worst album, by far. They rehashed old riff's, and made un utterly generic album by their standards. This album is what Nickelback would have made had they tried to make a Pearl Jam record.

At least Binaural and Riot Act had their own character, seemed to be somewhat experimental and had exploration in some regards. With Avacado they used the "Pearl Jam record template" and just phoned it in. I mean, they didn't even name the bloody record for fuck sakes. I say they stop concentrating on letting drummers write songs, letting guitarists write horrible lyrics, and start focusing on their strengths again. Another album like this and Pearl Jam will become the worst thing a band can become...boring and predictable. Heck an album of organ songs would've been more interesting than Avocado is.

Good Lord.

I can't believe some of the crap I'm reading on this thread. I know it's all opinion, but holy shit. I couldn't disagree more with most of it.

Igottago wrote:

Wow...finally people are starting to see Avocado for what it is..Pearl Jam's worst album, by far. They rehashed old riff's, and made un utterly generic album by their standards. This album is what Nickelback would have made had they tried to make a Pearl Jam record.

At least Binaural and Riot Act had their own character, seemed to be somewhat experimental and had exploration in some regards. With Avacado they used the "Pearl Jam record template" and just phoned it in. I mean, they didn't even name the bloody record for fuck sakes. I say they stop concentrating on letting drummers write songs, letting guitarists write horrible lyrics, and start focusing on their strengths again. Another album like this and Pearl Jam will become the worst thing a band can become...boring and predictable. Heck an album of organ songs would've been more interesting than Avocado is.

that nickelback reference was uncalled for, seriously, this is why I stay away from the board nowadays, stupid fucks like yourself

LongRd. wrote:

I Just Realized That Pearl Jam Hasn't Made A Good Album In Ten Years.



No Code had a new sound, somewhat cultural flavor to it. Personally, it's my second favorite album. Even without a signature single, it's still an amazing album in its own right. Receives 8/10 due to the lack of sales.

You lost all credibility by rating an album by sales figures..........

I couldn't disagree more with some of this shit.


Are you really telling the band how to do their own music? Why are you even a fan anymore if you cant appreciate it?

Every single album has explored new areas and been refreshing to me.


Probably one of the people who stands in the front row and doesnt move.

Igottago wrote:

lol..it was an exaggeration not meant to be taken seriously..you are that easily offended when people say something slightly critical towards Pearl Jam? I'm a stupid fuck because I didn't like Avocado? Maybe you should get a fuckin' life and not be so offended when someone critique's something you like.

Or, since you're not a stupid fuck, why don't you prove me wrong about Avocado. Dickhead.

First off I didn't mean to come off so harsh, I'm having a really shit day, and I just REALLY hate Nickelback. I'm a musician myself, and I still think that Stone and Mike create amazing riffs and ideas even though they've been a band for close to 20 years, and they keep it fresh. Unlike all these bands that have played for 15-20 years, like Bon Jovi, or Motley Crue, or even U2, I just don't expect alot when any of these bands put out new records cause I know its just gonna recycled cock rock. PJ has 5 songwriters and everyone brings in songs. On avacado they used capos on their guitars for the very first time, and Eddie finally came to life.

LongRd. wrote:

1) Got me there with the record sales thing remark. But I do think singles/marketing/promoting (major contributor of record sales) have a lot to do with how the overall album's value turns out to be.

2) You like all their stuff, that's fine to think...
...in a fanboy way. I pay hard earn money for their releases and I think I have the rights to criticize them if I think the production is being poorly produced.

3) Again, no need to bash members.

as much as we all respect your opinion, sometimes I just wish everyone on this board would keep the bashing of the albums to thereselves, because it just causes conflict

Igottago wrote:

Yeah we get it, you are the ultimate Pearl Jam fan because you tap your foot and you love every single record. Hopefully the band sends you some kind of medal or something, because clearly you've earned it.

It is just something i will never understand.........

I dont love every song. However, if you truly love what the band does, then I think it extremely easy to find something enjoyable in each album.

LongRd. wrote:

What more do you need? I said I can tolerate listening to Binaural and Riot Act, they have more average/good songs than terrible ones.

OK my defends for how shitty Avocado is. Well, Comatose, Severed Hand, Marker in the Sand are bad songs and especially when they're place back-to-back like that. They have NO melody what soever. I'll add Big Waves, WR, and AR too, they're just terrible.

Two major reason for their recent quality decline. One is Eddie's love of "punk." I don't how people can listen to the Ramones, Dead Kennedys, Sex Pistals at all. There is NO rhythm and melody to punk music what soever.

Second reason for the decline is Eddie's voice. His voice is getting worse and worse every album. I can't understand a words he says in alot of the songs in RA and PJ.

Punk sound and Eddie's voice are killing the quality of PJ.

I don't think Ed's voice is declining... ITW is a nice example. They continue to go in different directions, and that's o.k.. I have never liked every song on every disc... I guarantee no one here does. To criticize punk is fine, but the bands you named, maybe you need another listen. I like threads like this, but understand, no one is right and no one is wrong.

LongRd. wrote:

What more do you need? I said I can tolerate listening to Binaural and Riot Act, they have more average/good songs than terrible ones.

OK my defends for how shitty Avocado is. Well, Comatose, Severed Hand, Marker in the Sand are bad songs and especially when they're place back-to-back like that. They have NO melody what soever. I'll add Big Waves, WR, and AR too, they're just terrible.

Two major reason for their recent quality decline. One is Eddie's love of "punk." I don't how people can listen to the Ramones, Dead Kennedys, Sex Pistals at all. There is NO rhythm and melody to punk music what soever.

Second reason for the decline is Eddie's voice. His voice is getting worse and worse every album. I can't understand a words he says in alot of the songs in RA and PJ.

Punk sound and Eddie's voice are killing the quality of PJ.

Oh, I get it I think. You are person that believes that because you personally dont like something (like punk music) than that makes it inherently bad. Is that it? Because I am still unclear about how any point you make has anything to do with the integrity or the quality of the music. Do you really think Dee Dee Ramone or Johnny Rotten could give two fucks about melody and rhythm? They made groundbreaking, original music that was a direct expression of their personal experiences and views of this world. This is art, and the artists ability to write music or paint or sculpt or act according to their own true feelings and thoughts is what qualifies art as "good" or "bad".. Art becomes increasingly diminished in quality when it begins to be made according to what consumers want and demand (like yourself...)