i really hope eddie never tells us

sirjamston
sirjamston Posts: 38
edited May 2006 in Words and Music...Communication
i really hope that eddie and the rest of the band never tell us the meanings to the songs. i love hearing everyone's interpretations and making my own. but if i heard the real meanings i don't think the songs would have as many dimensions as i believe they have now. obviously, songs like 'jeremy' and a few others have given meanings but i really think the music and the lyrics gain from the fact that they can mean any number of things.

anyone with me?
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  • Carlos D
    Carlos D Posts: 638
    Yeah definitely,although I wish he'd admit the songs on Vitalogy were inspired by Kurt Cobain's death.Who's he trying to fool?
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  • stonesgstring
    stonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    I think the way the songs have been written, they have a certain element of openess to them, which allows for different interpretations. You take each song and find something within them that you can relate to, or understand.
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  • Jam-fan
    Jam-fan Posts: 70
    i find every time i listen to a pearl jam album all the way through it brings out some new emotion in me or i find some tiny little lyric or riff that makes my heart skip a beat and my hair stand on end. Pearl Jam does this to me more often than any other band i know

    The VH1 story tellers thing should be interesting to find out how much they're gonna tell or say. I personally would prefer it if they just left their songs open to each listener's own interpretation.
  • Sleight-Of-Hand
    Sleight-Of-Hand Posts: 57
    Yeah, everyone has their own interpratations of the lyrics & i think thats great, people can get so many diffrent stories or whatever from the same song and you hear what someone else thinks and you're like huh?

    an example of this for me is Footsteps, when i heard it first i thought it was about a guy who;d split up with his girlfriend because he liked her too much and got scared how he'd cope if she ever went away,,,"if there was a reason, it was you"... and then i read it was about a man in jail who had murdered someone (?) and now i only think of that when i hear it. Great song though
    I see the birds in the rain...


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  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,999
    Sleight-Of-Hand wrote:
    Yeah, everyone has their own interpratations of the lyrics & i think thats great, people can get so many diffrent stories or whatever from the same song and you hear what someone else thinks and you're like huh?

    an example of this for me is Footsteps, when i heard it first i thought it was about a guy who;d split up with his girlfriend because he liked her too much and got scared how he'd cope if she ever went away,,,"if there was a reason, it was you"... and then i read it was about a man in jail who had murdered someone (?) and now i only think of that when i hear it. Great song though

    I thought for sure this song was about a guy with a drug problem (heroin) (Scratchs on his arms) who broke up with his lady and was using drugs as his escape from the pain/loss.
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  • Sleight-Of-Hand
    Sleight-Of-Hand Posts: 57
    Nami wrote:
    I thought for sure this song was about a guy with a drug problem (heroin) (Scratchs on his arms) who broke up with his lady and was using drugs as his escape from the pain/loss.


    haha yeah i can totally see what u mean, mine doesnt totally make sense but its just what i interpreted it as when 1st heard it. i totally didnt get the impression he's meant to have killed her or whatever i think that was what eddie/the band sed tis about.
    I see the birds in the rain...


    i know and i would not ever touch you, hold you, feel you ever... oh, never again
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    First ever show-Leeds Festival 25th Aug 2006.
  • sirjamston
    sirjamston Posts: 38
    yeah, i heard that it was the last song in the 3-piece "mini opera" i think some people were calling it. the mini opera was supposed to be:

    1. alive - a guy finds out the truth about his father, etc
    2. once - later he takes out his frustration by going on a killing spree
    3. footsteps - the story of him after the killings, in prison.

    it makes lots of sense when you inspect the lyrics closely. but i think the way we can interpret them in different ways is great also.
  • dadowdsta
    dadowdsta Posts: 15
    I'd like to know what Chris Cornell was thinkin' when he originaly wrote the music for it. I can't remember the words for the song but both versions rock!

    Saw "Footsteps" live on May 17th in Chicago. Amazing!
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Carlos D wrote:
    Yeah definitely,although I wish he'd admit the songs on Vitalogy were inspired by Kurt Cobain's death.Who's he trying to fool?

    are you serious?
  • CenterCity
    CenterCity Posts: 193
    you know what.....for as much as the band loves their predeccessors.....in some ways i don't think they've learned anything from them.....hmmm.
    I need to finish writing.
  • CenterCity
    CenterCity Posts: 193
    Eddie Vedder is a legend.....and he owns up to it too.
    I need to finish writing.
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    twistedmenace wrote:
    i really hope that eddie and the rest of the band never tell us the meanings to the songs. i love hearing everyone's interpretations and making my own. but if i heard the real meanings i don't think the songs would have as many dimensions as i believe they have now. obviously, songs like 'jeremy' and a few others have given meanings but i really think the music and the lyrics gain from the fact that they can mean any number of things.

    anyone with me?

    Mmmh, yes and no. I have books on The Beatles, The Doors and Nirvana that tell a story about each of their songs. It isn't really about the meaning of the song, more about how it came alive. So there is only a hint of what it is about. I'd really love a book like that on all the Pearl jam songs.
    But I agree that it can also ruin a good song.
    I remember reading an interview with Micheal Stipe about his song writing and that didn’t do my notion about this band any good.
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    Carlos D wrote:
    Yeah definitely,although I wish he'd admit the songs on Vitalogy were inspired by Kurt Cobain's death.Who's he trying to fool?


    I tought they were about me. See now you ruied it for me, hahahahaha.
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • Oobah
    Oobah Posts: 35
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    Carlos D wrote:
    Yeah definitely,although I wish he'd admit the songs on Vitalogy were inspired by Kurt Cobain's death.Who's he trying to fool?
    i doubt it.

    Most of Vitalogy was probably written way before that April..

    A lot of it certainly relates, but it was a tumultuous time period for the band in general.

    Most of the songs are about himself and his own band anyway.
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  • *given*to*fly*
    *given*to*fly* Posts: 325
    stonesgstring wrote:
    I think the way the songs have been written, they have a certain element of openess to them, which allows for different interpretations. You take each song and find something within them that you can relate to, or understand.



    this is exactly why i will never love another band as much as pearl jam :)
    every song just fits somewhere
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    I like it when I learn the meanings or the inspiration for the songs. At Boston II I finally found out what Garden was about. I thought it was just a stone garden in the backyard. Now, it has deeper meaning since my grandpa is buried in a "Garden of Stone." Also, someone posted the meaning of "Dissident" and it FINALLY made sense. I just like a little direction so I can be on the same page as the lyricist.
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  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    twistedmenace wrote:
    i really hope that eddie and the rest of the band never tell us the meanings to the songs. i love hearing everyone's interpretations and making my own. but if i heard the real meanings i don't think the songs would have as many dimensions as i believe they have now. obviously, songs like 'jeremy' and a few others have given meanings but i really think the music and the lyrics gain from the fact that they can mean any number of things.

    anyone with me?
    You might not want to watch Storytellers then....
  • Carlos D
    Carlos D Posts: 638
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    i doubt it.

    Most of Vitalogy was probably written way before that April..

    A lot of it certainly relates, but it was a tumultuous time period for the band in general.

    Most of the songs are about himself and his own band anyway.

    In Immortality he says:
    ''Scrawl dissolve,cigar box on the floor.'' Kurt Cobain was found with a cigar box beside him with all his drugs in it.

    In Last Exit he says:
    ''three days, and maybe longer
    won't ever find me here
    let the ocean dissolve 'way my past
    four days, and not much longer...'' Kurt Cobain's body wasn't found until four days or so after he died.

    And there are loads more I can't think of at the moment.I know a lot of the songs were written before he died but still..
    It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
    But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

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  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    I keep picturing Storytellers:

    "This one um, is about ummm, well umm, personal safety" - I am Mine
    "this next one, um, is about ummm being scared ummm alive" - Unemployable

    I can't wait to see this! I love when Ed talks......wish I could have won tickets : (

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