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There are many examples of players who've had similar or worse numbers that are in though.tempo_n_groove said:
Here we go again...igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
Mattingly was great for 4 years, real good for 2 and an elite fielder for most of his career.
Keith Hernandez has a similar career if not slightly better but he won't get in either.I miss igotid880 -
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.This weekend we rock Portland0 -
My favorite Jeff Kent story. “Fell off his truck” 🤣
https://tht.fangraphs.com/tht-live/10th-anniversary-jeff-kent-washes-his-truck/
Tell the captain
'This boats not safe
And we're drowning.'0 -
True. I just hate the inconsistency. Sloppi, Pudge, Piazza and Bagwell are in. Heavy PED suspicion on all. One guy actually failed a test. Yet, another guy, better than any of them, can’t get a sniff solely because he was a jerk.igotid88 said:
There are many examples of players who've had similar or worse numbers that are in though.tempo_n_groove said:
Here we go again...igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
Mattingly was great for 4 years, real good for 2 and an elite fielder for most of his career.
Keith Hernandez has a similar career if not slightly better but he won't get in either.
I’m a Giants fan. I’d bet Kent juiced too, even though he was a vocal critic. When even “nice guy” Matt Williams is a juicer, all bets are off.If I had known then what I know now...
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They shouldn't be in either...igotid88 said:
There are many examples of players who've had similar or worse numbers that are in though.tempo_n_groove said:
Here we go again...igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
Mattingly was great for 4 years, real good for 2 and an elite fielder for most of his career.
Keith Hernandez has a similar career if not slightly better but he won't get in either.
Mattingly was fun to watch over that time but he just doesn't have enough to get him in.
Just curious who else is in that you think Mattingly was better than? Baines and Maseroski are givens.0 -
Vocal critic just like Rafael Palmeiro was a vocal denier.Wobbie said:igotid88 said:
There are many examples of players who've had similar or worse numbers that are in though.tempo_n_groove said:
Here we go again...igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
Mattingly was great for 4 years, real good for 2 and an elite fielder for most of his career.
Keith Hernandez has a similar career if not slightly better but he won't get in either.
I’m a Giants fan. I’d bet Kent juiced too, even though he was a vocal critic.
Kent's remarkable improvement when he reached San Franciso, home of Barroid and Balco, isn't mere coincidence nor a short 300-foot left field wall.
Dude juiced just like Junior Griffey juiced. It's obvious in the numbers.This weekend we rock Portland0 -
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.I miss igotid880 -
Lou Whitaker's WAR is 20 points higher than Kent'sI miss igotid880
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Kirby, Rolen, Rizzuto, Dawson for example. It's tough to argue because a lot of these people got to play a long time and some even had a more valuable position than 1B(which is treated as much as a DH). So when someone plays 20 years and has 2500+ hits 400+ hr. Their stats will look better than someone who played 14 with 2000+ hits and 200+ hrs.tempo_n_groove said:
They shouldn't be in either...igotid88 said:
There are many examples of players who've had similar or worse numbers that are in though.tempo_n_groove said:
Here we go again...igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
Mattingly was great for 4 years, real good for 2 and an elite fielder for most of his career.
Keith Hernandez has a similar career if not slightly better but he won't get in either.
Mattingly was fun to watch over that time but he just doesn't have enough to get him in.
Just curious who else is in that you think Mattingly was better than? Baines and Maseroski are givens.I miss igotid880 -
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.This weekend we rock Portland0 -
Thanks for putting Jr. in there.Poncier said:
Vocal critic just like Rafael Palmeiro was a vocal denier.Wobbie said:igotid88 said:
There are many examples of players who've had similar or worse numbers that are in though.tempo_n_groove said:
Here we go again...igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
Mattingly was great for 4 years, real good for 2 and an elite fielder for most of his career.
Keith Hernandez has a similar career if not slightly better but he won't get in either.
I’m a Giants fan. I’d bet Kent juiced too, even though he was a vocal critic.
Kent's remarkable improvement when he reached San Franciso, home of Barroid and Balco, isn't mere coincidence nor a short 300-foot left field wall.
Dude juiced just like Junior Griffey juiced. It's obvious in the numbers.
”we KNOW he was clean.” STFU. You don’t KNOW anything.If I had known then what I know now...
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D*dgers thought they got their closer at the deadline last year. Good thing they had another $70M in the couch cushions to get ANOTHER one. 😡If I had known then what I know now...
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Well then Trout shouldn't be in when he's eligible. Also doesn't make sense if we're letting in people who haven't reached those milestonesPoncier said:
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.Post edited by igotid88 onI miss igotid880 -
I’m not sure that comp is gonna work for you. I tried the same thing with Kirby Puckett (injury ended career) but that one wasn’t favorable to your case either.igotid88 said:
Well then Trout shouldn't be in when he's eligible. Also doesn't make sense if we're letting in people who haven't reached those milestonesPoncier said:
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.
If I had known then what I know now...
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VIC 07
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Didn't say he had better numbers. Just that he didn't reach the 500hr 3000 hits. Also meant to say if Trout retired today. Obviously he'll reach those milestones if he played until 40 years oldWobbie said:
I’m not sure that comp is gonna work for you. I tried the same thing with Kirby Puckett (injury ended career) but that one wasn’t favorable to your case either.igotid88 said:
Well then Trout shouldn't be in when he's eligible. Also doesn't make sense if we're letting in people who haven't reached those milestonesPoncier said:
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.
Post edited by igotid88 onI miss igotid880 -
igotid88 said:
Didn't say he had better numbers. Just that he didn't reach the 500hr 3000 hits. Also meant to say if Trout retired today. Obviously he'll reach those milestones if he played until 40 years oldWobbie said:
I’m not sure that comp is gonna work for you. I tried the same thing with Kirby Puckett (injury ended career) but that one wasn’t favorable to your case either.igotid88 said:
Well then Trout shouldn't be in when he's eligible. Also doesn't make sense if we're letting in people who haven't reached those milestonesPoncier said:
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.That just about convinces me Mattingly should be in. The 80s were a mini dead ball era, Dale Murphy was mentioned as a true power hitter then, and he would lead the NL in HRs in the mid 30s. Now that would barely make the Dodgers lineup /s0 -
but look at Trout’s WAR!igotid88 said:
Didn't say he had better numbers. Just that he didn't reach the 500hr 3000 hits. Also meant to say if Trout retired today. Obviously he'll reach those milestones if he played until 40 years oldWobbie said:
I’m not sure that comp is gonna work for you. I tried the same thing with Kirby Puckett (injury ended career) but that one wasn’t favorable to your case either.igotid88 said:
Well then Trout shouldn't be in when he's eligible. Also doesn't make sense if we're letting in people who haven't reached those milestonesPoncier said:
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.
and I’m not even a huge Trout fan…I think he’s a bit of a pussy….EASY, TEMPO, EASY! 🤣If I had known then what I know now...
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
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Vancouver 11
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Lou Whitaker should have gotten in before Trammell thenWobbie said:
but look at Trout’s WAR!igotid88 said:
Didn't say he had better numbers. Just that he didn't reach the 500hr 3000 hits. Also meant to say if Trout retired today. Obviously he'll reach those milestones if he played until 40 years oldWobbie said:
I’m not sure that comp is gonna work for you. I tried the same thing with Kirby Puckett (injury ended career) but that one wasn’t favorable to your case either.igotid88 said:
Well then Trout shouldn't be in when he's eligible. Also doesn't make sense if we're letting in people who haven't reached those milestonesPoncier said:
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.
and I’m not even a huge Trout fan…I think he’s a bit of a pussy….EASY, TEMPO, EASY! 🤣I miss igotid880 -
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Comparing Mattingly and Trout is laughable. Trout has had a shorter AND better career.Lerxst1992 said:igotid88 said:
Didn't say he had better numbers. Just that he didn't reach the 500hr 3000 hits. Also meant to say if Trout retired today. Obviously he'll reach those milestones if he played until 40 years oldWobbie said:
I’m not sure that comp is gonna work for you. I tried the same thing with Kirby Puckett (injury ended career) but that one wasn’t favorable to your case either.igotid88 said:
Well then Trout shouldn't be in when he's eligible. Also doesn't make sense if we're letting in people who haven't reached those milestonesPoncier said:
If the Queen had balls...igotid88 said:
Of course if you count his bad back years they won't look great. But before that he was and would have had 7-9 years of it. That's why I mentioned he was robbed of his prime years. He averaged 27 from 84-89. Had 3 straight years of 30 hrs. Someone playing 18-20 years with that hr average will get to 360-400.Poncier said:
What is this 1896?igotid88 said:
20 hr in a 162 game season average. Obviously his power numbers went down due to his back.Poncier said:
The statement you made was that Mattingly was also an "elite power hitter" after F Me said Murphy was an elite power hitter.igotid88 said:
14 seasons (12 full). Played the final 7-8 seasons with a bad back. I think people forget that. Obviously if you weren't around and just look at the stats. You'd think he just forgot how to hit. Still had more hits than Dale. A better AVG and OPS. Robbed of his prime years. If you want to go by WAR they weren't that far off.Poncier said:
222 career HR makes one an elite power hitter?igotid88 said:
And Mattingly wasn't?F Me In The Brain said:Dale Murphy gets a toe with Donnie?
Cmon. Murphy was an elite power hitter in 80s.
#teamdale
222 HR over 14 seasons is not elite power. its 16 HR per season on average,
That is far from elite power.That just about convinces me Mattingly should be in. The 80s were a mini dead ball era, Dale Murphy was mentioned as a true power hitter then, and he would lead the NL in HRs in the mid 30s. Now that would barely make the Dodgers lineup /s
Mattingly had 4 years w a 5 or better WAR four years in a row then fell off a cliff. Trout had 8 and covid and injuries halted that and then he came back to form again in 22 but sidelined again w injuries.
Trout is a first rounder for what hes done already. He has 10 years of great baseball under his belt.
Just to mention that Trout was 2nd in MVP voting four other seasons. He WAS the best player in baseball for 7 of his first 8 years.
Oh yeah and the Halos still couldn't do shit with it...0
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