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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,067
    Imagine if Josh Allen had Chase and Higgins instead of the junior varsity WRs Buffalo has now. 
    If he had those two receivers, he would also have a defense as terrible as the Bengals. Cincy will struggle to compete with so much cap space on four guys. 
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,754
    edited December 8
    mrussel1 said:
    Imagine if Josh Allen had Chase and Higgins instead of the junior varsity WRs Buffalo has now. 
    If he had those two receivers, he would also have a defense as terrible as the Bengals. Cincy will struggle to compete with so much cap space on four guys. 
    The fact that Josh Allen doesn't have a legitimate #1 WR is criminal.  They traded Diggs and made no serious effort to replace him.  Their second biggest cap hit this year is Dawson Knox. A TE who splits time with two other TEs. Pure insanity.
    Post edited by pearldavidson on
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,109
    Chiefs dynasty officially over.  

    The hit in Zach Ertz was a cheap shot.  Went right for the knees.  That will be the end of one hell if a career.  
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,818
    pjhawks said:
    Chiefs dynasty officially over.  

    The hit in Zach Ertz was a cheap shot.  Went right for the knees.  That will be the end of one hell if a career.  

    It was a hell of a run.  Fucking time of my life the last 7 years.
    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,067
    mrussel1 said:
    Imagine if Josh Allen had Chase and Higgins instead of the junior varsity WRs Buffalo has now. 
    If he had those two receivers, he would also have a defense as terrible as the Bengals. Cincy will struggle to compete with so much cap space on four guys. 
    The fact that Josh Allen doesn't have a legitimate #1 WR is criminal.  They traded Diggs and made no serious effort to replace him.  Their second biggest cap hit this year is Dawson Knox. A TE who splits time with two other TEs. Pure insanity.
    Yes he should have better receivers, but Cincy is paying for their decisions.  
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,908
    KC can still win it any year that Mahomes and Reid are there.  That team is certainly degraded.  The time of the ferrari offense with Tyreek, Kelce, Hunt is gone.  Chris Jones is getting older.  Other teams in their division (and AFC) have gotten their acts together.   This decline was right there to see last year, but they ended up winning every single close game somehow.  
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,908
    mrussel1 said:
    Imagine if Josh Allen had Chase and Higgins instead of the junior varsity WRs Buffalo has now. 
    If he had those two receivers, he would also have a defense as terrible as the Bengals. Cincy will struggle to compete with so much cap space on four guys. 
    The fact that Josh Allen doesn't have a legitimate #1 WR is criminal.  They traded Diggs and made no serious effort to replace him.  Their second biggest cap hit this year is Dawson Knox. A TE who splits time with two other TEs. Pure insanity.

    I really hope they are serious about getting someone.  It seems like Coleman may be history after this season.  Need to get rid of Samuel too.  Offense can be potentially great if they had 1 star receiver along with Cook, Kincaid, Allen, Shakir, and that O-Line (although a few of them are due payment).  

    They do not have a ton of flexibility coming up, but they could cull Samuel, Knox, Bass, and a few others, and some restructures can get them enough to fill the need.  Unfortunately they have other roster holes.  Need to find a MLB, DT (Deone Walker has been great and hopefully TJ Sanders takes a few steps), and DE.  Probably another CB as well.  Cole Bishop developing overnight is great found money.  
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,766
    the fantasy points I get (or don’t get) from knox and shakir confirm mayday’s analysis. 😡
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,589
    pjhawks said:
    Chiefs dynasty officially over.  

    The hit in Zach Ertz was a cheap shot.  Went right for the knees.  That will be the end of one hell if a career.  

    It was a hell of a run.  Fucking time of my life the last 7 years.
    They will be back next year.

    It's really amazing to see Butker miss FG's. Fuck that guy.
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  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,754
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Imagine if Josh Allen had Chase and Higgins instead of the junior varsity WRs Buffalo has now. 
    If he had those two receivers, he would also have a defense as terrible as the Bengals. Cincy will struggle to compete with so much cap space on four guys. 
    The fact that Josh Allen doesn't have a legitimate #1 WR is criminal.  They traded Diggs and made no serious effort to replace him.  Their second biggest cap hit this year is Dawson Knox. A TE who splits time with two other TEs. Pure insanity.
    Yes he should have better receivers, but Cincy is paying for their decisions.  
    Yup. It doesn't help that Burrow is always hurt too.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,754
    Wobbie said:
    the fantasy points I get (or don’t get) from knox and shakir confirm mayday’s analysis. 😡
    That touchdown from Allen to Shakir yesterday was insane.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,754
    MayDay10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Imagine if Josh Allen had Chase and Higgins instead of the junior varsity WRs Buffalo has now. 
    If he had those two receivers, he would also have a defense as terrible as the Bengals. Cincy will struggle to compete with so much cap space on four guys. 
    The fact that Josh Allen doesn't have a legitimate #1 WR is criminal.  They traded Diggs and made no serious effort to replace him.  Their second biggest cap hit this year is Dawson Knox. A TE who splits time with two other TEs. Pure insanity.

    I really hope they are serious about getting someone.  It seems like Coleman may be history after this season.  Need to get rid of Samuel too.  Offense can be potentially great if they had 1 star receiver along with Cook, Kincaid, Allen, Shakir, and that O-Line (although a few of them are due payment).  

    They do not have a ton of flexibility coming up, but they could cull Samuel, Knox, Bass, and a few others, and some restructures can get them enough to fill the need.  Unfortunately they have other roster holes.  Need to find a MLB, DT (Deone Walker has been great and hopefully TJ Sanders takes a few steps), and DE.  Probably another CB as well.  Cole Bishop developing overnight is great found money.  
    I have very little faith in Brandon Beane at this point. In fact, I pretty much hate him lol.  
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,766
    Wobbie said:
    the fantasy points I get (or don’t get) from knox and shakir confirm mayday’s analysis. 😡
    That touchdown from Allen to Shakir yesterday was insane.
    9.6 points from a WR is less than insane. 🤪
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,754
    Wobbie said:
    Wobbie said:
    the fantasy points I get (or don’t get) from knox and shakir confirm mayday’s analysis. 😡
    That touchdown from Allen to Shakir yesterday was insane.
    9.6 points from a WR is less than insane. 🤪
    Hopefully he is a bench guy and not a starter for you.
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,818
    MayDay10 said:
    KC can still win it any year that Mahomes and Reid are there.  That team is certainly degraded.  The time of the ferrari offense with Tyreek, Kelce, Hunt is gone.  Chris Jones is getting older.  Other teams in their division (and AFC) have gotten their acts together.   This decline was right there to see last year, but they ended up winning every single close game somehow.  

    The roster has gotten older and the younger players who they were reliant on to take a step forward haven't (Bolton, Rice, Worthy, Karlaftis, Danna).  They've been passed by now and need to consider a major shift in personnel and offensive scheme.  Hopefully Reid brings in new voices to the offensive side of the ball.  I'm hoping the Bills finally get their ring this year now that KC is out.
    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,116
    MayDay10 said:
    KC can still win it any year that Mahomes and Reid are there.  That team is certainly degraded.  The time of the ferrari offense with Tyreek, Kelce, Hunt is gone.  Chris Jones is getting older.  Other teams in their division (and AFC) have gotten their acts together.   This decline was right there to see last year, but they ended up winning every single close game somehow.  

    The roster has gotten older and the younger players who they were reliant on to take a step forward haven't (Bolton, Rice, Worthy, Karlaftis, Danna).  They've been passed by now and need to consider a major shift in personnel and offensive scheme.  Hopefully Reid brings in new voices to the offensive side of the ball.  I'm hoping the Bills finally get their ring this year now that KC is out.
    Josh Allen is pure magic most nights.  Love watching him play.
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,818
    MayDay10 said:
    KC can still win it any year that Mahomes and Reid are there.  That team is certainly degraded.  The time of the ferrari offense with Tyreek, Kelce, Hunt is gone.  Chris Jones is getting older.  Other teams in their division (and AFC) have gotten their acts together.   This decline was right there to see last year, but they ended up winning every single close game somehow.  

    The roster has gotten older and the younger players who they were reliant on to take a step forward haven't (Bolton, Rice, Worthy, Karlaftis, Danna).  They've been passed by now and need to consider a major shift in personnel and offensive scheme.  Hopefully Reid brings in new voices to the offensive side of the ball.  I'm hoping the Bills finally get their ring this year now that KC is out.
    Josh Allen is pure magic most nights.  Love watching him play.

    I really hope that dude gets a ring.  No one can carry an offense as well as he can right now.
    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,153
    Everyone burying the Chiefs should look at their schedule. 4 games they should be favored in.
    Only tough one is hosting Denver.
    Realistic shot at 10-7. Indy is cooked, so just have to leap the San Diego SuperChargers to get in the playoffs. Chargers are without both starting tackles and have a brutal remaining schedule (Philly, KC, Dallas Houston and Denver).
    So basically, the Chiefs need to beat Denver at Arrowhead (or whatever the hell they call it now) on Christmas and they are in.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,908
    Poncier said:
    Everyone burying the Chiefs should look at their schedule. 4 games they should be favored in.
    Only tough one is hosting Denver.
    Realistic shot at 10-7. Indy is cooked, so just have to leap the San Diego SuperChargers to get in the playoffs. Chargers are without both starting tackles and have a brutal remaining schedule (Philly, KC, Dallas Houston and Denver).
    So basically, the Chiefs need to beat Denver at Arrowhead (or whatever the hell they call it now) on Christmas and they are in.

    The Chiefs can make the playoffs for sure.  Id give it much better than the 12% or whatever is out there.

    But they aren't going to win-out, face against the grinding stone in week 18, then win 3 away games to get to the Superbowl (let-alone win it).  

    You can tell they just don't have the juice.  Most years they have benefitted from resting starters Week 18 and/or through the 1st round bye.  
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,343
    Everyone losing their shit over Raider game and that fg to kill the spread… def something there there 

    Pete Carroll is lil wonky, that slant now this