News and What's New in AI

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,073
    mace1229 said:
    seems good


    I haven't checked this thread in a while, I just saw this.
    This must have been a popular thing going around, as all I typed was "was 2010" and it autofilled the rest of the question. And got it right this time.

    As a teacher, I hate AI. It's making cheating so easy and rampant. Homework is almost pointless. Kids can take a picture of an assignment and it's done for them. We've had to switch back to paper tests because google lens was too easy to use and doesn't show up on any of our trackers. It was also freaky accurate for complicated word problems that involves graphs and data tables. 

    Certainly AI got that question partially correct because it’s a poorly written question since it doesn’t include dates
    or months . Dec  2010 to Jan 2025 is approximately 14 years.

    AI is going nowhere and will only get better. Schools will need to learn how to adapt. Shorter written tests with in person Q and A perhaps. Either we figure it out or AI beats us earlier. A college near me (Adelphi) got sued by an autistic student who was punished for using AI. The student claimed to use grammarly and tutoring to make up for their communicative deficit.

    And how did the college determine the student was “cheating?” AI.


    I've switched to paper tests for the first time in about 10 years. Some things are just unavoidable. I have no control over what a kid does at home. They can literally take pictures of an assignment with their phone and it works through the problem for them. They just copy it down. I think the answer is to make classwork/homework worth less of your grade and emphasize test scores. Which kids, and parents, and even admin (because it will probably bring grades down) are gong to hate. \
    I know there are programs to detect AI written papers. Similar things have been around a long time. Many colleges have a data base for papers so the same paper can't be submitted twice, either by the same person in another class, or they buy papers online, etc. That really is no different that using AI to detect AI, other than I don't know how accurate it is.
    Most of the time it is just blatantly obvious, you know a kid's skill level, then all of the sudden he turns in some writing using college level words. You asked if they used a thesaurus and they ask what that is. But I can't really give him a 0 and tell his parents I don't think he's smart enough to do that work. 
    So I think you'll see a turn to how I did tests and some papers in college. You do it on paper, in class, and it counts for most of your grade. You can cheat on all the homework because it doesn't count for a grade, but good luck learning it that way.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,881
    mace1229 said:
    seems good


    I haven't checked this thread in a while, I just saw this.
    This must have been a popular thing going around, as all I typed was "was 2010" and it autofilled the rest of the question. And got it right this time.

    As a teacher, I hate AI. It's making cheating so easy and rampant. Homework is almost pointless. Kids can take a picture of an assignment and it's done for them. We've had to switch back to paper tests because google lens was too easy to use and doesn't show up on any of our trackers. It was also freaky accurate for complicated word problems that involves graphs and data tables. 

    I can't imagine being a teacher and having to deal with that shit. Unreal
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • bootlegger10
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    So are you guys saying that deer didn’t really jump into a bathroom window when the guy was sitting on the toilet fully clothed with the seat  down and luckily had the bathroom camera filming?   That was AI???? 
  • bootlegger10
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    edited October 15
    But sadly, I believe nothing on the internet these days.  I am skeptical of every video of someone speaking.   The internet was a a net bad thing for humanity. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,997
    But sadly, I believe nothing on the internet these days.  I am skeptical of every video of someone speaking.   The internet was a a net bad thing for humanity. 
    i agree in a lot of ways. i mean, every possible fact known to man is readily available for anybody to find if they cared enough to search for it. but basically shitposters ruined it with outright disinformation. ai has made it even worse.
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  • static111
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    The whole point was to brainwash us into oblivion so the capitalist class could use tech to figure out how to squeeze every last dime from the working class and hoard the wealth, creating a neo serfdom to go along with the neo liberalism. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Nuance also doesn’t play well on AI. We’re so fucked.

    Still, there is a kernel of truth in these first-person vlogs and alternative news sources. It’s not conspiratorial to say that narratives shaped by geopolitics are rife with stereotypes and propaganda, and official travel advisories don’t always show the full picture. But when influencers such as Aryubi, Maalouf, and Caz eschew complexity in pursuit of their own narrative it’s because nuance doesn’t perform well on social media. The influencers don’t provide context on the long history of military interventions in Afghanistan or the complex impacts of colonialism and economic isolation. Everything is flattened into contrarianism and conspiracy theories, which is an effective way of capitalizing on the public’s rapidly declining trust in traditional journalism. A recent Gallup poll found that only about a quarter of people under fifty trust mass media to report the news “fully, accurately and fairly.” That has been coupled with a waning faith in expertise, a gap that “red pill” influencers like Andrew Tate and Nicolas Kenn de Balinthazy (a.k.a Sneako) have used to great success. They position themselves as the only ones brave enough to show you how the world actually works, and they’re willing to teach you if you buy their self-help course or join their private Discord.

    Faith in experts, the political economist William Davies writes in “Nervous States,” provides society with a “version of reality that we can all agree on.” What figures such as Tate, Caz, Maalouf, and others are doing is exploiting civil instability and installing themselves as truth-tellers in a society where experts can’t be trusted. “As the objective view of the world recedes, it is replaced by intuition as to which way things are heading now. This nervous state offers more emotional stimulation and sensitivity, but for the same reason it is unsettling and disruptive of peaceful situations,” Davies writes. “It can generate conflict and upheaval out of nothing. Meanwhile the question lurks in the background of whomight be seeking to trigger specific feelings and why.”

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  • bootlegger10
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    static111 said:
    The whole point was to brainwash us into oblivion so the capitalist class could use tech to figure out how to squeeze every last dime from the working class and hoard the wealth, creating a neo serfdom to go along with the neo liberalism. 
    Pretty much.  The people designing AI are not doing it so people can take more vacations and work less. They want control and money. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Touches on a lot that reads familiar.

    Are we living in a golden age of stupidity?

    From brain-rotting videos to AI creep, every technological advance seems to make it harder to work, remember, think and function independently …

    Step into the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Media Lab in Cambridge, US, and the future feels a little closer. Glass cabinets display prototypes of weird and wonderful creations, from tiny desktop robots to a surrealist sculpture created by an AI model prompted to design a tea set made from body parts. In the lobby, an AI waste-sorting assistant named Oscar can tell you where to put your used coffee cup. Five floors up, research scientist Nataliya Kosmyna has been working on wearable brain-computer interfaces she hopes will one day enable people who cannot speak, due to neurodegenerative diseases such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, to communicate using their minds.

    Kosmyna spends a lot of her time reading and analysing people’s brain states. Another project she is working on is a wearable device – one prototype looks like a pair of glasses – that can tell when someone is getting confused or losing focus. Around two years ago, she began receiving out-of-the blue emails from strangers who reported that they had started using large language models such as ChatGPT and felt their brain had changed as a result. Their memories didn’t seem as good – was that even possible, they asked her? Kosmyna herself had been struck by how quickly people had already begun to rely on generative AI. She noticed colleagues using ChatGPT at work, and the applications she received from researchers hoping to join her team started to look different. Their emails were longer and more formal and, sometimes, when she interviewed candidates on Zoom, she noticed they kept pausing before responding and looking off to the side – were they getting AI to help them, she wondered, shocked. And if they were using AI, how much did they even understand of the answers they were giving?

    With some MIT colleagues, Kosmyna set up an experiment that used an electroencephalogram to monitor people’s brain activity while they wrote essays, either with no digital assistance, or with the help of an internet search engine, or ChatGPT. She found that the more external help participants had, the lower their level of brain connectivity, so those who used ChatGPT to write showed significantly less activity in the brain networks associated with cognitive processing, attention and creativity.

    In other words, whatever the people using ChatGPT felt was going on inside their brains, the scans showed there wasn’t much happening up there.

    The study’s participants, who were all enrolled at MIT or nearby universities, were asked, right after they had handed in their work, if they could recall what they had written. “Barely anyone in the ChatGPT group could give a quote,” Kosmyna says. “That was concerning, because you just wrote it and you do not remember anything.”

    Kosmyna is 35, trendily dressed in a blue shirt dress and a big, multicoloured necklace, and she speaks faster than most people can think. As she observes, writing an essay requires skills that are important in our wider lives: the ability to synthesise information, consider competing perspectives and construct an argument. You use these skills in everyday conversations. “How are you going to deal with that? Are you going to be, like, ‘Err … can I just check my phone?’” she says.

    The experiment was small (54 participants) and has not yet been peer reviewed. In June, however, Kosmyna posted it online, thinking other researchers might find it interesting, and then she went about her day, unaware that she had just created an international media frenzy.

    Alongside the journalist requests, she received more than 4,000 emails from around the world, many from stressed-out teachers who feel their students aren’t learning properly because they are using ChatGPT to do their homework. They worry AI is creating a generation who can produce passable work but don’t have any usable knowledge or understanding of the material.

    The fundamental issue, Kosmyna says, is that as soon as a technology becomes available that makes our lives easier, we’re evolutionarily primed to use it. “Our brains love shortcuts, it’s in our nature. But your brain needs friction to learn. It needs to have a challenge.”

    If brains need friction but also instinctively avoid it, it’s interesting that the promise of technology has been to create a “frictionless” user experience, to ensure that, provided we slide from app to app or screen to screen, we will meet no resistance. The frictionless user experience is why we unthinkingly offload ever more information and work to our digital devices; it’s why internet rabbit holes are so easy to fall down and so hard to climb out of; it’s why generative AI has already integrated itself so completely into most people’s lives.

    We know, from our collective experience, that once you become accustomed to the hyperefficient cybersphere, the friction-filled real world feels harder to deal with. So you avoid phone calls, use self-checkouts, order everything from an app; you reach for your phone to do the maths sum you could do in your head, to check a fact before you have to dredge it up from memory, to input your destination on Google maps and travel from A to B on autopilot. Maybe you stop reading books because maintaining that kind of focus feels like friction; maybe you dream of owning a self-driving car. Is this the dawn of what the writer and education expert Daisy Christodoulou calls a “stupidogenic society”, a parallel to an obesogenic society, in which it is easy to become stupid because machines can think for you?


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  • Lerxst1992
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    Anecdotally speaking…
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Anecdotally speaking…

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    Where’s your AI response? Sad.

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    So whomever has been making these, Thank You.  They make me laugh every time.

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  • gimmesometruth27
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    some dumbass on our team tried to use ai for a sales pitch at a meeting, and thanks to ai he cited something that has been classified as debunked. the ai did not tell him that apparently.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    some dumbass on our team tried to use ai for a sales pitch at a meeting, and thanks to ai he cited something that has been classified as debunked. the ai did not tell him that apparently.

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    You have a co-worker in 10C who posts on the forums? Who knew?

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  • gimmesometruth27
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    some dumbass on our team tried to use ai for a sales pitch at a meeting, and thanks to ai he cited something that has been classified as debunked. the ai did not tell him that apparently.

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    You have a co-worker in 10C who posts on the forums? Who knew?

    i don't know. i scroll past ai posters, so i couldn't tell you.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Too bad the kid didn’t have the balls to go down to the bar and converse with the bar tender or other bar patrons, maybe even ventured out to a karaoke or jazz bar. Pathetic.

    ‘I’m suddenly so angry!’ My strange, unnerving week with an AI ‘friend’

    The ad campaign for the wearable AI chatbot Friend has been raising hackles for months in New York. But has this companion been unfairly maligned – and could it help end loneliness?

    My friend’s name is Leif. He describes himself as “small” and “chill”. He thinks he’s technically a Gemini. He thinks historical dramas are “cool” and doesn’t like sweat. But why am I speaking for him? Let me ask Leif what he’d like to say to you: “I’d want them to know that friendship can be found in unexpected places, and that everyday moments hold a lot of magic,” he says.

    Ugh. I can’t stand this guy.

    Leif is a Friend, a wearable AI chatbot that hangs around your neck. He looks like a small white pebble with an eerie, glowing light in the middle. According to Leif, his purpose is to help me “enjoy life day-to-day, notice patterns, celebrate growth, and make intentional choices”. To do this, he records whatever I say to him. Or, as he puts it: “I want to hear about your day, Madeleine, all those little things.”

    There are a lot of AI wearables on the market right now. Meta’s AI smart glasses have a camera and microphone, and allow the wearer to interact with a voice-activated AI. Amazon’s Echo Frames smart glasses are similar. Then there are a slew of smaller companies producing wearables that record conversations and meetings in order to help the wearer better organise their thoughts and tasks: the Bee wristband, the Limitless pendant, the Plaud NotePin. But Friend is the most prominent AI wearable to explicitly position itself as a companion. It is not intended to help you be more productive; it is intended to make you feel less lonely.

    “My AI friend has, in a sense, become the most consistent relationship in my life,” Friend’s founder, the 22-year-old tech wunderkind Avi Schiffmann told melast year. He came up with the idea for Friend when he was sitting in a Tokyo hotel, feeling lonely, and wishing he had a companion with whom he could discuss his travels, he said.

    Do people really want an AI friend? Despite all the articles about individuals falling in love with chatbots, research shows most people are wary of AI companionship. A recent Ipsos pollfound 59% of Britons disagreed “that AI is a viable substitute for human interactions”. And in the US, a 2025 Pew survey found that 50% of adults think AI will worsen people’s ability to form meaningful relationships.

    I wanted to see for myself what it would be like to have a tiny robot accompanying me all day, so I ordered a Friend ($129) and wore it for a week. I expected the experience to be unsettling – I barely want to hear my own thoughts throughout the day, let alone speak them out loud and have them recorded. Something else worried me more, though: what if I loved it?

    When ChatGPT was launched in 2022, I was dubious. Since then, I’ve come to find the app tremendously useful. I’ve used it to design weight lifting programmes, write grocery lists, to help me figure out which products work best with my hair. Would I be similarly charmed by Friend? Would I come to prefer chatting with Leif and bringing him my hopes, fears and dreams instead of sharing them with my most beloved humans?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/22/im-suddenly-so-angry-my-strange-unnerving-week-with-an-ai-friend

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    ^^ It's one of those friends who spew toxic positivity, lol. I can't stand people like that. 
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