Socialism

Bentleyspop · October 9

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

trump just said that drug prices are going to drop 100%, 200%, 500%....looking forward to that

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

But if the government pays you to take free prescription medication, isn’t that socialism?

If it comes a retRUmplican wh then no.
If it comes from a libtard demoncrat then yes.

Halifax2TheMax · October 9

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

With how they ask AI the question.

Tim Simmons · October 9

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

maybe those 2 aren't comparable and thats why?

Lerxst1992 · October 9

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

brianlux · October 10

Interesting how dredging often result in pulling muck up from the bottom.

Sift...sift...sift...

Halifax2TheMax · October 10

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

What “extreme” policy or position of AOC’s can you point to that is comparable to Maggie Three Names? Either a platform position from her campaign or a vote of hers in the house will suffice.

You seem to forget that AOC ran against an incumbent in her primary and won. I guess primaries or elections only count when your preferred candidate wins? Or was this more RLD interference and ignoring the will of the voters?

brianlux · October 10

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
What “extreme” policy or position of AOC’s can you point to that is comparable to Maggie Three Names? Either a platform position from her campaign or a vote of hers in the house will suffice.
You seem to forget that AOC ran against an incumbent in her primary and won. I guess primaries or elections only count when your preferred candidate wins? Or was this more RLD interference and ignoring the will of the voters?

If AOC is "radical" or "extreme" I'm the best guitarist going into the 21st Century.

Glad we settled that!

cincybearcat · October 10

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

Have you been following her at all lately? I am truly puzzled by what I perceive to be a shift...

Halifax2TheMax · October 10

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

She’s an idiot and didn’t read the bill before she voted on it.

Democratic lawmakers, who all voted against the bill, responded with incredulity to Greene’s admission.

“You have one job. To. Read. The. Fucking. Bill,” Representative Eric Swalwell wrote in response.

Representative Ted Lieu said he had read the AI provision beforehand and “that’s one reason I voted no on the GOP’s big, ugly bill”, he posted on X. “PRO TIP: It’s helpful to read stuff before voting on it.”

Representative Mark Pocan was more forward: “Read the f**king bill instead of clapping for it like a performing monkey. You should have done your job while it was written. You didn’t. You own that vote.”

While these quotes are in relation to Maggie Three Names being opposed to states not being able to regulate AI, that provision was only 278 pages in. And you have staff to chunk the reading out to and report back. More importantly, you’re supposed to have the intellectual capacity to understand the impact of potential legislation on your constituents, as it relates to healthcare costs. Way to go Georgia 14th!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

Lerxst1992 · October 10

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
What “extreme” policy or position of AOC’s can you point to that is comparable to Maggie Three Names? Either a platform position from her campaign or a vote of hers in the house will suffice.
You seem to forget that AOC ran against an incumbent in her primary and won. I guess primaries or elections only count when your preferred candidate wins? Or was this more RLD interference and ignoring the will of the voters?

If AOC is "radical" or "extreme" I'm the best guitarist going into the 21st Century.

Glad we settled that!

Hey Rush stunned their fans and are returning to the stage. They are looking for a couple extra players, give them a call!

I stated the that AOC and mtg are both examples of politicians on the extreme of their respective parties. I was not comparing them to each other.

AOCs positions on healthcare, ICE and Middle East are considered extreme to the typical voter, not necessarily to commenters on a very left forum. Politicians need to understand the voters that exist, not the voters they wished exist, in order to be successful.

Halifax2TheMax · October 10

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
What “extreme” policy or position of AOC’s can you point to that is comparable to Maggie Three Names? Either a platform position from her campaign or a vote of hers in the house will suffice.
You seem to forget that AOC ran against an incumbent in her primary and won. I guess primaries or elections only count when your preferred candidate wins? Or was this more RLD interference and ignoring the will of the voters?

If AOC is "radical" or "extreme" I'm the best guitarist going into the 21st Century.

Glad we settled that!

Hey Rush stunned their fans and are returning to the stage. They are looking for a couple extra players, give them a call!

I stated the that AOC and mtg are both examples of politicians on the extreme of their respective parties. I was not comparing them to each other.

AOCs positions on healthcare, ICE and Middle East are considered extreme to the typical voter, not necessarily to commenters on a very left forum. Politicians need to understand the voters that exist, not the voters they wished exist, in order to be successful.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

What are AOC’s positions on ICE, ME and healthcare?

Tim Simmons · October 10

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
What “extreme” policy or position of AOC’s can you point to that is comparable to Maggie Three Names? Either a platform position from her campaign or a vote of hers in the house will suffice.
You seem to forget that AOC ran against an incumbent in her primary and won. I guess primaries or elections only count when your preferred candidate wins? Or was this more RLD interference and ignoring the will of the voters?

If AOC is "radical" or "extreme" I'm the best guitarist going into the 21st Century.

Glad we settled that!

AOCs positions on healthcare, ICE and Middle East are considered extreme to the typical voter, not necessarily to commenters on a very left forum. Politicians need to understand the voters that exist, not the voters they wished exist, in order to be successful.

She supports Medicare for All which is also very popular among US voters. And her position on the "middle east" (I assume you mean Palestine and Israel) is a 2 state solution and thinking Israel is committing a genocide. That also has a majority of support from US voters.

Lerxst1992 · October 10

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
What “extreme” policy or position of AOC’s can you point to that is comparable to Maggie Three Names? Either a platform position from her campaign or a vote of hers in the house will suffice.
You seem to forget that AOC ran against an incumbent in her primary and won. I guess primaries or elections only count when your preferred candidate wins? Or was this more RLD interference and ignoring the will of the voters?

If AOC is "radical" or "extreme" I'm the best guitarist going into the 21st Century.

Glad we settled that!

AOCs positions on healthcare, ICE and Middle East are considered extreme to the typical voter, not necessarily to commenters on a very left forum. Politicians need to understand the voters that exist, not the voters they wished exist, in order to be successful.

She supports Medicare for All which is also very popular among US voters. And her position on the "middle east" (I assume you mean Palestine and Israel) is a 2 state solution and thinking Israel is committing a genocide. That also has a majority of support from US voters.

And repeatedly, they never vote for it enough in the only polls that matter. In November. And we can’t get close to enough elected officials that even support a public option, let alone Medicare for all.

Tim Simmons · October 10

Maybe if a party full throated supported it, it may excite voters.

gimmesometruth27 · October 10

cincybearcat said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

Have you been following her at all lately? I am truly puzzled by what I perceive to be a shift...

she is only shifting on the obamacare cuts because it directly impacts someone close to her.

Go Beavers · October 10

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

I started the comment with ‘if’ for a reason, which is asking for clarification if needed. Socialism as a label in US politics, and actual Socialism are two different things. Actual Socialism isn’t going to happen. What we can continue with is stronger social support policies, which get labeled Socialism by the right because it makes it sound scary.

Go Beavers · October 10

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
What “extreme” policy or position of AOC’s can you point to that is comparable to Maggie Three Names? Either a platform position from her campaign or a vote of hers in the house will suffice.
You seem to forget that AOC ran against an incumbent in her primary and won. I guess primaries or elections only count when your preferred candidate wins? Or was this more RLD interference and ignoring the will of the voters?

If AOC is "radical" or "extreme" I'm the best guitarist going into the 21st Century.

Glad we settled that!

Hey Rush stunned their fans and are returning to the stage. They are looking for a couple extra players, give them a call!

I stated the that AOC and mtg are both examples of politicians on the extreme of their respective parties. I was not comparing them to each other.

AOCs positions on healthcare, ICE and Middle East are considered extreme to the typical voter, not necessarily to commenters on a very left forum. Politicians need to understand the voters that exist, not the voters they wished exist, in order to be successful.

Nearly every one of Trump’s policies is getting an approval rating of around 37-45%. The majority aligns with dems.

Go Beavers · October 10

cincybearcat said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

Have you been following her at all lately? I am truly puzzled by what I perceive to be a shift...

What’s the shift?

cincybearcat · October 11

Go Beavers said:

cincybearcat said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

Have you been following her at all lately? I am truly puzzled by what I perceive to be a shift...

What’s the shift?

Going against MAGA on a few things….most recently the shutdown.

Look she’s still MTG….but there have been a few times she hasn’t towed the party line recently. It stands out since almost no one else does it.

Lerxst1992 · October 11

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah not sure why people are falling for the magat talking point of "socialism" with Mamdani.

If the people of NYC think he is the best choice then so be it.

We complain often when the primary process provides more extreme candidates

I'm sure there was a TON of bitching on here when someone like MTG was elected.

But when it leads to a member of the DSA to get nominated in the primary process, no harm no foul.

Yeah that's not unbiased politics

If you think there’s an MTG equivalent on the left, you need to put in more effort.

I’m sorry, was that what I said, or did I use her as example of an extreme candidate resulting from the primary process.

Or, you’re actually arguing socialism is not an extreme party in the states.

Talk about low effort, you made an attack while not understanding the words you read.

I started the comment with ‘if’ for a reason, which is asking for clarification if needed. Socialism as a label in US politics, and actual Socialism are two different things. Actual Socialism isn’t going to happen. What we can continue with is stronger social support policies, which get labeled Socialism by the right because it makes it sound scary.

The concern is with what is perceived socialism to the moderate American voter, especially those in swing states. Those are the voters that turn elections. Current popular policies like Medicare for all to them are socialist policies, despite what they might say to an opinion pollster.

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