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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,305
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    This is fucking crazy. I had a blood clot in my leg a few years ago and got put on Eliquis.

    Seems that I have a weird gene that makes clotting more likely. Dr told me that I would probably be on Eliquis for life. 

    Had a "discount" coupon from the maker for $10/month on the prescription that just ran out. Current cost is around $510/month at my pharmacy and the generic version is not available in the USA.

    I signed up with a Canadian Pharmacy and will pay $173/month for the same prescription. They offered the generic for a bit less but I went with the brand for now.

    The USA healthcare system is the fucking stupidest system in the world.
    Is it not covered by your insurance?

    I will be in the same boat in a few months. A year and half ago I have multiple blood clots, including several in the lungs. Had no symptoms other than I was having difficult breathing.
    Because I had no pain or symptoms, the doctor said I'll be on Eliquis for life, because next time I probably won't survive and was lucky to this time. Who knows who long I had them before I had difficulty breathing. 
    I have the Eliquis discount for $10, but that runs out in about 6 months. But my copay is only $60 for it when the coupon is out. Still don't want to have to pay $60/month for life though. 

    Funny thing is, this all happened the day after the Indy show in 2023. It was the only show I had tickets to that leg and was supposed to make the 8 hour drive. But my parents forgot they agreed to watch the kids that weekend, so I ended up selling them last minute. Had I gone, I'd been on an 8 hour car drive home on the day I ended up going to the hospital. More than likely I would have been too stubborn to stop anywhere and who knows what would have happened. 
    wow that's crazy....no, my insurance doesn't cover but I would be very happy with $60/month. I'm not sure if that is because of my overall deductible or what exactly.

    I figure I can live with the $178/month for three months then I'll get the generic at $114/month


    Insurance is so messed up. We never know what is covered or how much things cost up front. We just get a bill with a bunch of numbers that don't make any sense, and pay it. 


    I am on the same medication as far as I can recall it doesn't cost so much. Maybe 60/mo. Which is really messed up reading these comments.


    Instead of Colbert and Epstein this is the type of conversation Democrats should be pounding away at the public again and again and again.

     Not just the two months before election day but all the time. They should be getting into the streets of rural America exurban America and engage with voters non-stop.

    High costs should be explained to voters it takes more than one Administration term to change things. For generational change they need a commitment from voters to make health care more affordable. 

    Democrats are willing to blame voters for being unintelligent yet they run around the Epstein Colbert circus Non-Stop instead of engaging and educating voters every year every month

     The case should be made to voters If they want to see results they need a long-term commitment to dems. They need to be making this case over and over and over again

    yet what are Democrats doing? this Epstein (and colbert)stuff which means nothing politically.

    Yeah maybe Trump should be charged from but they're never going to get him out of office with these attacks
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,716
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    This is fucking crazy. I had a blood clot in my leg a few years ago and got put on Eliquis.

    Seems that I have a weird gene that makes clotting more likely. Dr told me that I would probably be on Eliquis for life. 

    Had a "discount" coupon from the maker for $10/month on the prescription that just ran out. Current cost is around $510/month at my pharmacy and the generic version is not available in the USA.

    I signed up with a Canadian Pharmacy and will pay $173/month for the same prescription. They offered the generic for a bit less but I went with the brand for now.

    The USA healthcare system is the fucking stupidest system in the world.
    Is it not covered by your insurance?

    I will be in the same boat in a few months. A year and half ago I have multiple blood clots, including several in the lungs. Had no symptoms other than I was having difficult breathing.
    Because I had no pain or symptoms, the doctor said I'll be on Eliquis for life, because next time I probably won't survive and was lucky to this time. Who knows who long I had them before I had difficulty breathing. 
    I have the Eliquis discount for $10, but that runs out in about 6 months. But my copay is only $60 for it when the coupon is out. Still don't want to have to pay $60/month for life though. 

    Funny thing is, this all happened the day after the Indy show in 2023. It was the only show I had tickets to that leg and was supposed to make the 8 hour drive. But my parents forgot they agreed to watch the kids that weekend, so I ended up selling them last minute. Had I gone, I'd been on an 8 hour car drive home on the day I ended up going to the hospital. More than likely I would have been too stubborn to stop anywhere and who knows what would have happened. 
    wow that's crazy....no, my insurance doesn't cover but I would be very happy with $60/month. I'm not sure if that is because of my overall deductible or what exactly.

    I figure I can live with the $178/month for three months then I'll get the generic at $114/month


    Insurance is so messed up. We never know what is covered or how much things cost up front. We just get a bill with a bunch of numbers that don't make any sense, and pay it. 


    I am on the same medication as far as I can recall it doesn't cost so much. Maybe 60/mo. Which is really messed up reading these comments.


    Instead of Colbert and Epstein this is the type of conversation Democrats should be pounding away at the public again and again and again.

     Not just the two months before election day but all the time. They should be getting into the streets of rural America exurban America and engage with voters non-stop.

    High costs should be explained to voters it takes more than one Administration term to change things. For generational change they need a commitment from voters to make health care more affordable. 

    Democrats are willing to blame voters for being unintelligent yet they run around the Epstein Colbert circus Non-Stop instead of engaging and educating voters every year every month

     The case should be made to voters If they want to see results they need a long-term commitment to dems. They need to be making this case over and over and over again

    yet what are Democrats doing? this Epstein (and colbert)stuff which means nothing politically.

    Yeah maybe Trump should be charged from but they're never going to get him out of office with these attacks
    the democrats did this. remember the $30 cap on insulin that trump undid during his first week in office?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,990
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    This is fucking crazy. I had a blood clot in my leg a few years ago and got put on Eliquis.

    Seems that I have a weird gene that makes clotting more likely. Dr told me that I would probably be on Eliquis for life. 

    Had a "discount" coupon from the maker for $10/month on the prescription that just ran out. Current cost is around $510/month at my pharmacy and the generic version is not available in the USA.

    I signed up with a Canadian Pharmacy and will pay $173/month for the same prescription. They offered the generic for a bit less but I went with the brand for now.

    The USA healthcare system is the fucking stupidest system in the world.
    Is it not covered by your insurance?

    I will be in the same boat in a few months. A year and half ago I have multiple blood clots, including several in the lungs. Had no symptoms other than I was having difficult breathing.
    Because I had no pain or symptoms, the doctor said I'll be on Eliquis for life, because next time I probably won't survive and was lucky to this time. Who knows who long I had them before I had difficulty breathing. 
    I have the Eliquis discount for $10, but that runs out in about 6 months. But my copay is only $60 for it when the coupon is out. Still don't want to have to pay $60/month for life though. 

    Funny thing is, this all happened the day after the Indy show in 2023. It was the only show I had tickets to that leg and was supposed to make the 8 hour drive. But my parents forgot they agreed to watch the kids that weekend, so I ended up selling them last minute. Had I gone, I'd been on an 8 hour car drive home on the day I ended up going to the hospital. More than likely I would have been too stubborn to stop anywhere and who knows what would have happened. 
    wow that's crazy....no, my insurance doesn't cover but I would be very happy with $60/month. I'm not sure if that is because of my overall deductible or what exactly.

    I figure I can live with the $178/month for three months then I'll get the generic at $114/month


    Insurance is so messed up. We never know what is covered or how much things cost up front. We just get a bill with a bunch of numbers that don't make any sense, and pay it. 


    I am on the same medication as far as I can recall it doesn't cost so much. Maybe 60/mo. Which is really messed up reading these comments.


    Instead of Colbert and Epstein this is the type of conversation Democrats should be pounding away at the public again and again and again.

     Not just the two months before election day but all the time. They should be getting into the streets of rural America exurban America and engage with voters non-stop.

    High costs should be explained to voters it takes more than one Administration term to change things. For generational change they need a commitment from voters to make health care more affordable. 

    Democrats are willing to blame voters for being unintelligent yet they run around the Epstein Colbert circus Non-Stop instead of engaging and educating voters every year every month

     The case should be made to voters If they want to see results they need a long-term commitment to dems. They need to be making this case over and over and over again

    yet what are Democrats doing? this Epstein (and colbert)stuff which means nothing politically.

    Yeah maybe Trump should be charged from but they're never going to get him out of office with these attacks
    the democrats did this. remember the $30 cap on insulin that trump undid during his first week in office?
    No, no, no, COOTWH has reduced drug prices 600-700%. The drug companies will pay you to take their meds.
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  • mickeyrat
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    A Western New York couple are beside themselves after their 10-month-old child’s life-saving brain surgery was denied by their insurance company. https://fox4kc.com/news/national/new-york-parents-fight-insurance-denial-for-babys-life-saving-brain-surger
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,305
    Man that would make a great commercial to run right now 24/7 in rural America. But we get flooded w Epstein and lib hate. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,716
    mickeyrat said:
    A Western New York couple are beside themselves after their 10-month-old child’s life-saving brain surgery was denied by their insurance company. https://fox4kc.com/news/national/new-york-parents-fight-insurance-denial-for-babys-life-saving-brain-surger
    sounds about right. 

    i dealt with this bullshit for 6 years when i worked with a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. fuck insurance company doctors.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Monetization of healthcare. Just make it a commodity. Let the market decide. Everything is fine, both sides are the same.

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  • Anybody here an "insurance expert"?
    Anybody here deal with obamacare, work health insurance, and Medicare professionally? I have some questions that I really dont mind being discussed out in the open but I would prefer to have them answered by someone  who knows exactly what they are talking about. Which basically eliminates 99% of you folks. Hahahahaha

    That's a joke BTW. 



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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,305
    Anybody here an "insurance expert"?
    Anybody here deal with obamacare, work health insurance, and Medicare professionally? I have some questions that I really dont mind being discussed out in the open but I would prefer to have them answered by someone  who knows exactly what they are talking about. Which basically eliminates 99% of you folks. Hahahahaha

    That's a joke BTW. 





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  • mickeyrat
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    Psychiatric hospitals — increasingly owned by for-profit corporations — are illegally turning away patients during crises. Yet only a handful face penalties, with fines that are trivial, a ProPublica investigation found.

    Read more: https://propub.li/46YPjGG
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  • mickeyrat
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    Few patients appeal a health insurance denial, but a little-known process that requires insurers and plans to seek an independent opinion can force insurers to pay for what can be lifesaving treatment.

    Here’s what experts say you need to know: https://propub.li/4nGUDEB
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,716
    you guys know that obamacare is going to soon be known as trumpcare, right?
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,003
    Why doesn’t a reporter ask Johnson why the Republicans can’t come up with a healthcare plan of their own? They’ve been badmouthing Obamacare since day one!
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,978
    Why doesn’t a reporter ask Johnson why the Republicans can’t come up with a healthcare plan of their own? They’ve been badmouthing Obamacare since day one!
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,433
    Why doesn’t a reporter ask Johnson why the Republicans can’t come up with a healthcare plan of their own? They’ve been badmouthing Obamacare since day one!
    It’s too close to socialized medicine for Trump to ever pursue his own, plus it’s so much more effective to tell the base about how bad the other guys are (rather than promoting your own actions, allowing for negative discourse).
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,664
    benjs said:
    Why doesn’t a reporter ask Johnson why the Republicans can’t come up with a healthcare plan of their own? They’ve been badmouthing Obamacare since day one!
    It’s too close to socialized medicine for Trump to ever pursue his own, plus it’s so much more effective to tell the base about how bad the other guys are (rather than promoting your own actions, allowing for negative discourse).
    It's still amazes me to hear how some/most GOP talk about it. Graham was on one of the Sunday shows going on about the "affordable care act" resulting in increasing premium costs each year like we never experienced that before.

    We are so fucked with this disinformation. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,716
    i am telling you, during this shutdown, trump is going to put back in place the subsidies on the condition that it is now called trumpcare. 

    it will be the exact same thing that he has been shitting on for 10 years, but he will sell it to his people as the greatest thing ever. and they will believe him. just watch. 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,402
    i am telling you, during this shutdown, trump is going to put back in place the subsidies on the condition that it is now called trumpcare. 

    it will be the exact same thing that he has been shitting on for 10 years, but he will sell it to his people as the greatest thing ever. and they will believe him. just watch. 
    I wouldn’t bet against that 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,123
    Call it whatever, just get people healthcare
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,195
    Call it whatever, just get people healthcare
    Go a step further and get them actual healthcare instead of costly insurance.
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