Voting Redistricting or Gerrymandering

tempo_n_groove · August 15

I'm sure everyone has heard the news and all the districts looking to change the voting landscape in whomever is in powers' favor.

This has been going on forever and nothing new but it is dominating headlines now.

Texas had the dems leave so it couldn't happen. Newsome in Cali is doing so too.

I would expect more of the same. Isn't this autocracy too though?

Tim Simmons · August 15

I’d give more concern to this if one party, who currently run the country weren’t openly being autocratic with a fascism bent.

So my response is, I guess this is just part of the game now. Do I wish things were better and more fair, absolutely.

josevolution · August 15

Screw that the only way to counter any GOP incentive is to fight fire with fire! Fuck playing nice nice

Gern Blansten · August 15

josevolution said:

Screw that the only way to counter any GOP incentive is to fight fire with fire! Fuck playing nice nice

Exactly....I think the Dems main problem the last several years has been the idea that we should "stick to the norms" and just wait this bullshit out. Fuck that...CA, IL, NY, etc. should all get into this redistricting and wipe those nazis out.

DE4173 · August 15

Both sides have been involved in redistricting and gerrymandering in the past and will continue into the future and it''s only news now because Trump (or whatever juvenile name of the day is) is back in office?

In this instance as well: both sides are the same.

gimmesometruth27 · August 15

i hate partisan gerrymandering from either side. drawing of the districts should be independent.

but if texas and red states are going to fuck around mid decade like this to give themselves more seats, then the democrats need to fight fire with fire and blow it all up and do the same.

our system cannot continue the way it is with one side cheating to keep an advantage.

if it is good for the gop, it is good for the dems, and newsom should guarantee that california will give the dems the edge. other blue states need to follow suit.

if trump and the gop are going to be lawless, the dems need to as well. otherwise the dems will never win another election, even though they only lost by 1% of the popular vote in 2024.

Poncier · August 15

While true gerrymandering has been going on since the days of Elbridge Gerry, in the past it has generally happened after a census, not on the eve of mid-term elections. That is the part folks should focus on. Abbott and Trumpstello are trying to change the rules in the 5th inning of the game.

DE4173 · August 15

Appreciate your posts!

DE4173 · August 15

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/14/california-redistricting-newsom-poll-00508930

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static111 · August 15

Yeah the real problem is that it is happening just to stack odds for the elections, instead of it being done after census as has been standard practice.

static111 · August 15

DE4173 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/14/california-redistricting-newsom-poll-00508930

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Well this Texas voter is against what his governor is currently trying to do, so seems like newsom is just playing by the new rules.

Gern Blansten · August 15

DE4173 said:

Both sides have been involved in redistricting and gerrymandering in the past and will continue into the future and it''s only news now because Trump (or whatever juvenile name of the day is) is back in office?

In this instance as well: both sides are the same.

no, it's news now because he broke the norm of only redistricting after a census

DE4173 · August 15

But it does and has happened in the past, mid-decade even, even though it's less common?

Tim Simmons · August 15

DE4173 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/14/california-redistricting-newsom-poll-00508930

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I wish they asked a followup question to CA voters as to whether they think Texas (and by extension Trump) is acting in good faith in redrawing their maps. I'm willing to bet that at the very least a plurality (if not majority) response to that would be No.

At the end of the day, I believe an underlying desire in America is for fairness, and thats why i'm seeing this poll go the way it did.

josevolution · August 15

DE4173 said:

But it does and has happened in the past, mid-decade even, even though it's less common?

So what are you ok with GOP doing this? What else should democrats do nothing? It’s to late to go high when they go low way to late

Tim Simmons · August 15

I also want to put out there that Newsom sucks, but its nice to see him dogging Trump and playing some hardball as opposed to Schumers strongly worded letters.

DE4173 · August 15

If the GOP does it, fine.
If the Dems do it, fine.

Dems should do everything in their power to ensure success for the party.

Tim Simmons · August 15

I think people didn't have a real problem with it and treated it as business as usual (which is bad, but also typical for the US). But once a borderline fascist party took control and started dismantling structures of governance started backing doing this, some red flags became more visible.

DE4173 · August 15

Tim Simmons said:

I also want to put out there that Newsom sucks, but its nice to see him dogging Trump and playing some hardball as opposed to Schumers strongly worded letters.

"You'll have a president that will be running for a third term. Mark my word. I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I received, in the mail, a Trump 2028 hat from one of his biggest supporters. These people are not screwing around."

Gern Blansten · August 15

It is still hard to imagine anyone wanting a third term from this piece of shit.

DE4173 · August 15

One was too many.

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