A thread about Bill Maher: The Good, The Bad, and The UGLY!

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,834
    brianlux said:
    Sorry guys, I'm not following what was wrong with Maher's bit about encouraging women to break away from abusive relationships and report abuse, especially because the people he was talking about can all afford good lawyers and protection.  
    Of course, if a woman lives in a city, county or state that is weak on convicting male abusers, I can understand why some may be hesitant or afraid to report abuse.  But encouraging those who are in a position to safely report abuse and leave an abusive relationship sure sounds like a good plan to me.
    And I say all this of having had a good friend literally drink herself to death because of having been abused when younger.  Abuse is a terrible thing and needs to be brought out in the open and dealt with.  
    I'm with tbergs on this one. He's not just encouraging women to break away, he's saying it's their fault if they don't. That's gross. To suggest that women also have the choice not to tolerate certain behaviours in order to move their careers ahead is shockingly out of touch. He thinks cuz metoo is 8 years old, all of this went away? That's insane. 

    I don't even agree with him on the take of the "if you have the money, there's no excuse" stuff. Sure, Tina Turner did it. There are countless others that didn't. That couldn't. That feared for their lives, their careers, their friends, their contacts, their reputations, etc, I could go on, that honestly, if there's more Diddy's out there watching this, he just gave them a green light to continue their deplorable behaviour. 


    SOME OF THAT IS ON YOU” is not what you are claiming it to be. She said she could leave at any time. Her words. Good grief.

    If you are doing this for love or for your career, you need to have a little bit more honesty and accountability about that” is what Maher said.

    exactly why you misunderstand most non liberal comments here.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,834
    pjhawks said:
    lol....I really don't get the hate. Still a great show. Still rips on trump the whole time
    I like that he has people with differing opinions on his show. one of the few that will host the other side. I still watch it when I can.  It was definitely a better show Pre-Trump but everything has become left vs right these days with little debate at times is getting a bit stale.

    I stopped watching in 2020 because I believed it was unfair to blame democrats for the woke culture politically . Man that didn’t turn out to be such a good prediction.

    I started watching immediately after trump won because the bobble heads on msnbc and cnn were spewing crap about the democrats loss. And I was interested in a fresh perspective of what the actual f*ck happened in the election, not the nonsense spewed in extreme left amt like viewpoints 

    If there is another political talk show that presents a left, right and center viewpoint, and still “tougher than anyone on trump” according to Al Gore, I’d be very interested in watching it also.

    however, the Dem o Sphere is very much uninterested in self examination, so what’s left is to inaccurately attack Maher. Just like all the defense of fka twigs above.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,524
    Dude. This bit is getting so fucking tedious. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,038
    pjhawks said:
    lol....I really don't get the hate. Still a great show. Still rips on trump the whole time
    I like that he has people with differing opinions on his show. one of the few that will host the other side. I still watch it when I can.  It was definitely a better show Pre-Trump but everything has become left vs right these days with little debate at times is getting a bit stale.

    I stopped watching in 2020 because I believed it was unfair to blame democrats for the woke culture politically . Man that didn’t turn out to be such a good prediction.

    I started watching immediately after trump won because the bobble heads on msnbc and cnn were spewing crap about the democrats loss. And I was interested in a fresh perspective of what the actual f*ck happened in the election, not the nonsense spewed in extreme left amt like viewpoints 

    If there is another political talk show that presents a left, right and center viewpoint, and still “tougher than anyone on trump” according to Al Gore, I’d be very interested in watching it also.

    however, the Dem o Sphere is very much uninterested in self examination, so what’s left is to inaccurately attack Maher. Just like all the defense of fka twigs above.
    Define “woke culture.” Please?
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    pjhawks said:
    lol....I really don't get the hate. Still a great show. Still rips on trump the whole time
    I like that he has people with differing opinions on his show. one of the few that will host the other side. I still watch it when I can.  It was definitely a better show Pre-Trump but everything has become left vs right these days with little debate at times is getting a bit stale.

    I stopped watching in 2020 because I believed it was unfair to blame democrats for the woke culture politically . Man that didn’t turn out to be such a good prediction.

    I started watching immediately after trump won because the bobble heads on msnbc and cnn were spewing crap about the democrats loss. And I was interested in a fresh perspective of what the actual f*ck happened in the election, not the nonsense spewed in extreme left amt like viewpoints 

    If there is another political talk show that presents a left, right and center viewpoint, and still “tougher than anyone on trump” according to Al Gore, I’d be very interested in watching it also.

    however, the Dem o Sphere is very much uninterested in self examination, so what’s left is to inaccurately attack Maher. Just like all the defense of fka twigs above.
    Define “woke culture.” Please?
    anything i don't like is woke.
    i stubbed my toe on a chair this morning. now i hate that fucking stupid woke chair.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    brianlux said:
    Sorry guys, I'm not following what was wrong with Maher's bit about encouraging women to break away from abusive relationships and report abuse, especially because the people he was talking about can all afford good lawyers and protection.  
    Of course, if a woman lives in a city, county or state that is weak on convicting male abusers, I can understand why some may be hesitant or afraid to report abuse.  But encouraging those who are in a position to safely report abuse and leave an abusive relationship sure sounds like a good plan to me.
    And I say all this of having had a good friend literally drink herself to death because of having been abused when younger.  Abuse is a terrible thing and needs to be brought out in the open and dealt with.  
    I'm with tbergs on this one. He's not just encouraging women to break away, he's saying it's their fault if they don't. That's gross. To suggest that women also have the choice not to tolerate certain behaviours in order to move their careers ahead is shockingly out of touch. He thinks cuz metoo is 8 years old, all of this went away? That's insane. 

    I don't even agree with him on the take of the "if you have the money, there's no excuse" stuff. Sure, Tina Turner did it. There are countless others that didn't. That couldn't. That feared for their lives, their careers, their friends, their contacts, their reputations, etc, I could go on, that honestly, if there's more Diddy's out there watching this, he just gave them a green light to continue their deplorable behaviour. 


    SOME OF THAT IS ON YOU” is not what you are claiming it to be. She said she could leave at any time. Her words. Good grief.

    If you are doing this for love or for your career, you need to have a little bit more honesty and accountability about that” is what Maher said.

    exactly why you misunderstand most non liberal comments here.
    Cherry picking comments is right up your alley. Well done. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    Dude. This bit is getting so fucking tedious. 
    No kidding
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    I’m curious how a person would only misunderstand comments from one ideology. 

    Make this stupidity make a lick of sense. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,524
    Also, isn’t it Cassie not Twigs? 

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,834
    We missed you Bill, especially AMT.  welcome back!



    “This is the issue that is going to divide the Democratic Party: Jews, Israel, Gaza.

     obviously the last month that we’ve been off that’s an even worse. there is starvation, now even Trump says it. 

    the question is not whether it is going, on it is going on. It is fault. Hamas likes it when their own people die. That is their strategy.

     I’m not saying Israel is blameless or Israel has done the right things here, but let’s not forget part of it. They, Hamas do like it when their people die. 

    Their strategy to win the propaganda war, that’s  a big part of the religion… a problem with dealing with an enemy … how do you stop people who like dying in a war.”

  • Spiritual_Chaos
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     I’m not saying Israel is blameless 

    are you sure
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,761
    Dude. This bit is getting so fucking tedious. 
    It was tedious months ago.

    At this point it’s just pathetic. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,834
    Dude. This bit is getting so fucking tedious. 
    It was tedious months ago.

    At this point it’s just pathetic. 

    But nonstop  Epstein and fvckface posts are acceptable. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,834


    “Just the phrase ‘abolition of private property — not something we usually hear in America,” Maher said.

    “‘Prisons are obsolete. What purpose do they serve,'” Maher continued, quoting Mamdani.

    “I can think of a couple,” the comedian quipped.

    “‘NYPD is racist, anti-queer and a major threat to public safety,'” Maher said, again quoting Mamdani.

    “I think most people think cops are protecting their public safety,” Maher added.

    Maher’s comments came in response to Democratic Colorado Rep. Jason Crow, who dismissed conservative backlash to Mamdani as an attempt to invent a “boogeyman.”

    Fellow panelist and columnist James Kirchick also weighed in, drawing sharp comparisons between Mamdani and theories once aimed at former President Barack Obama.

    Everything that the crazy far-right alleged about Obama — wasn’t born in America, Islamist, socialist, antisemite, hates America — it’s all true about this guy [Mamdani],” Kirchick claimed.

    Kirchick, author of Secret City, criticized Mamdani’s refusal to condemn the phrase “globalize the intifada,” which critics say calls for violence against Jews. “It means kill Jews whenever and wherever you can find them,” he said. “I don’t want to hear anyone deny this.”



    ..


    Ok Dem extremists..it’s me, not yall 

  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,068
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    “Just the phrase ‘abolition of private property — not something we usually hear in America,” Maher said.

    “‘Prisons are obsolete. What purpose do they serve,'” Maher continued, quoting Mamdani.

    “I can think of a couple,” the comedian quipped.

    “‘NYPD is racist, anti-queer and a major threat to public safety,'” Maher said, again quoting Mamdani.

    “I think most people think cops are protecting their public safety,” Maher added.

    Maher’s comments came in response to Democratic Colorado Rep. Jason Crow, who dismissed conservative backlash to Mamdani as an attempt to invent a “boogeyman.”

    Fellow panelist and columnist James Kirchick also weighed in, drawing sharp comparisons between Mamdani and theories once aimed at former President Barack Obama.

    Everything that the crazy far-right alleged about Obama — wasn’t born in America, Islamist, socialist, antisemite, hates America — it’s all true about this guy [Mamdani],” Kirchick claimed.

    Kirchick, author of Secret City, criticized Mamdani’s refusal to condemn the phrase “globalize the intifada,” which critics say calls for violence against Jews. “It means kill Jews whenever and wherever you can find them,” he said. “I don’t want to hear anyone deny this.”



    ..


    Ok Dem extremists..it’s me, not yall 

    Yes it is you. Conflating all left leaning people and politicians with one high profile politician and believing that everyone falls completely in line with this all the way to the top of the DNC.  You have been infected with the MAGA mind virus and it is sad to witness.

    There are a lot of legitimate things to criticize the DNC and Mamdani for.  But you continue to troll the right wing extremist narrative of Biden had dementia, the autopen was president, Mamdani wants to kill all Jews etc. Because apparently you fall in line with conservative thought and pattern and claim to be some kind of completely objective centrist. Sad that you can't see the brainwashing.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,031
    lol who still takes bill curmudgeon seriously?

    he can fuck all the way off. is he done complaining about how long it took him to get solar installed on his mansion yet, or was that last year?
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,834
    static111 said:


    “Just the phrase ‘abolition of private property — not something we usually hear in America,” Maher said.

    “‘Prisons are obsolete. What purpose do they serve,'” Maher continued, quoting Mamdani.

    “I can think of a couple,” the comedian quipped.

    “‘NYPD is racist, anti-queer and a major threat to public safety,'” Maher said, again quoting Mamdani.

    “I think most people think cops are protecting their public safety,” Maher added.

    Maher’s comments came in response to Democratic Colorado Rep. Jason Crow, who dismissed conservative backlash to Mamdani as an attempt to invent a “boogeyman.”

    Fellow panelist and columnist James Kirchick also weighed in, drawing sharp comparisons between Mamdani and theories once aimed at former President Barack Obama.

    Everything that the crazy far-right alleged about Obama — wasn’t born in America, Islamist, socialist, antisemite, hates America — it’s all true about this guy [Mamdani],” Kirchick claimed.

    Kirchick, author of Secret City, criticized Mamdani’s refusal to condemn the phrase “globalize the intifada,” which critics say calls for violence against Jews. “It means kill Jews whenever and wherever you can find them,” he said. “I don’t want to hear anyone deny this.”



    ..


    Ok Dem extremists..it’s me, not yall 

    Yes it is you. Conflating all left leaning people and politicians with one high profile politician and believing that everyone falls completely in line with this all the way to the top of the DNC.  You have been infected with the MAGA mind virus and it is sad to witness.

    There are a lot of legitimate things to criticize the DNC and Mamdani for.  But you continue to troll the right wing extremist narrative of Biden had dementia, the autopen was president, Mamdani wants to kill all Jews etc. Because apparently you fall in line with conservative thought and pattern and claim to be some kind of completely objective centrist. Sad that you can't see the brainwashing.

    Biden didn’t have dementia?
    that worst debate performance of all time by a mile didn’t happen ?
    hiding Biden for a year didn’t happen?
    Bob Woodward and Bill Maher and George Clooney who fully agree from experience with this are part of the right wing extremism?
    what mamdani is saying about socialism, globalizing the intifada and abolition of private property are not extremist?


    These are all facts that you and anyone who believes your comment,  need to overcome to believe the fantasies that are apparently your world view. That’s  sadly where Dems are  today 

    sorry to invade your safe space. And @merkinballer also. But you need a dose of reality. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,038
    static111 said:


    “Just the phrase ‘abolition of private property — not something we usually hear in America,” Maher said.

    “‘Prisons are obsolete. What purpose do they serve,'” Maher continued, quoting Mamdani.

    “I can think of a couple,” the comedian quipped.

    “‘NYPD is racist, anti-queer and a major threat to public safety,'” Maher said, again quoting Mamdani.

    “I think most people think cops are protecting their public safety,” Maher added.

    Maher’s comments came in response to Democratic Colorado Rep. Jason Crow, who dismissed conservative backlash to Mamdani as an attempt to invent a “boogeyman.”

    Fellow panelist and columnist James Kirchick also weighed in, drawing sharp comparisons between Mamdani and theories once aimed at former President Barack Obama.

    Everything that the crazy far-right alleged about Obama — wasn’t born in America, Islamist, socialist, antisemite, hates America — it’s all true about this guy [Mamdani],” Kirchick claimed.

    Kirchick, author of Secret City, criticized Mamdani’s refusal to condemn the phrase “globalize the intifada,” which critics say calls for violence against Jews. “It means kill Jews whenever and wherever you can find them,” he said. “I don’t want to hear anyone deny this.”



    ..


    Ok Dem extremists..it’s me, not yall 

    Yes it is you. Conflating all left leaning people and politicians with one high profile politician and believing that everyone falls completely in line with this all the way to the top of the DNC.  You have been infected with the MAGA mind virus and it is sad to witness.

    There are a lot of legitimate things to criticize the DNC and Mamdani for.  But you continue to troll the right wing extremist narrative of Biden had dementia, the autopen was president, Mamdani wants to kill all Jews etc. Because apparently you fall in line with conservative thought and pattern and claim to be some kind of completely objective centrist. Sad that you can't see the brainwashing.

    Biden didn’t have dementia?
    that worst debate performance of all time by a mile didn’t happen ?
    hiding Biden for a year didn’t happen?
    Bob Woodward and Bill Maher and George Clooney who fully agree from experience with this are part of the right wing extremism?
    what mamdani is saying about socialism, globalizing the intifada and abolition of private property are not extremist?


    These are all facts that you and anyone who believes your comment,  need to overcome to believe the fantasies that are apparently your world view. That’s  sadly where Dems are  today 

    sorry to invade your safe space. And @merkinballer also. But you need a dose of reality. 
    More garbage. To claim Mamdani represents the dem party from the DNC, potential dem candidates for POTUS and all dems on down is utter bullshit. He’s one candidate in one city in one race. BOO!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Dude. This bit is getting so fucking tedious. 
    It was tedious months ago.

    At this point it’s just pathetic. 

    But nonstop  Epstein and fvckface posts are acceptable. 
    Both of which are currently relevant as opposed to your AI posts about nothing.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    I know, facts are nothing around here. 

    Better off chasing Epstein files two dem presidents didn’t release and trying to prosecute trump, which failed four times. Political genius you are.