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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,672
    Love a bit of melodrama with my morning coffee
    Hope ur referring to the commenter that made up a lie about the n word pertaining to me, when I point out an honest comment about AOC violating her woke and equality culture. Some can’t even handle simple comments against the extreme left.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,372
    Those that live in glass “can’t even handle simple comments” houses shouldn’t throw stones. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,783
    AOC and my posts are why Dems will never win another election. Ever.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,890
    AOC and my posts are why Dems will never win another election. Ever.
    not for 3 more generations at least. the dems ruined global politics.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,096

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,672
    Those that live in glass “can’t even handle simple comments” houses shouldn’t throw stones. 
    Because many post vague comments with shadow quotes with obvious strawman and  personal attacks? My stones always come out second btw, but that’s impossible to discern with so much hate from the far left towards any commenter not part of the ultra left. My complaints only seek to get this place to where the owners claim they want it to be. This partial enforcement middle ground is absurd. 


    I was welcomed here  when I was part of the ultra left for many years, but unfortunately the left has moved so far in recent years, I am now a dem voting centrist. Unfortunately that doesn’t get acceptance in extremely partisan spaces like this. Dems need to understand where the bridges to moderates exist, but are too swallowed within their extremism to see where those bridges are.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,783
    Those that live in glass “can’t even handle simple comments” houses shouldn’t throw stones. 
    Because many post vague comments with shadow quotes with obvious strawman and  personal attacks? My stones always come out second btw, but that’s impossible to discern with so much hate from the far left towards any commenter not part of the ultra left. My complaints only seek to get this place to where the owners claim they want it to be. This partial enforcement middle ground is absurd. 


    I was welcomed here  when I was part of the ultra left for many years, but unfortunately the left has moved so far in recent years, I am now a dem voting centrist. Unfortunately that doesn’t get acceptance in extremely partisan spaces like this. Dems need to understand where the bridges to moderates exist, but are too swallowed within their extremism to see where those bridges are.
    No, I just don’t believe you’re a “dem voting centrist.”

    ”Hate from the far left?” Because some disagree with your opinions. “Hate.”

    Fuck the United States. Feel better?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,783
    edited July 5
    Forget about things going back to “normal.” It’s too late and only going to get worse. I didn’t think the far right or right as it is could set the bar any lower but I guess I was wrong. But do worry about old Hal’s posts on a rock band’s forum.


    Revealed: the far-right, antisemitic men’s club network spreading across US

    Old Glory Club has at least 26 chapters with participants including military personnel, lawyers and civil servants

    A nationwide US network of dozens of far-right, men-only fraternal clubs has what members describe as “literally hundreds” of participants who include past and currently serving military personnel, lawyers, civil servants, and prominent antisemitic influencers, a Guardian investigation can reveal.

    The Old Glory Club (OGC) – which has at least 26 chapters in 20 US states and until now has drawn little attention – exemplifies the alarming rise of organized racist political groups in the past few years but especially during the rise of Donald Trump and his return to the White House.

    The OGC network has held conferences, meetups and other events. Key members like podcaster Pete Quinones use their platforms to push far-right ideas about Jewish people and immigrants. Other members have used their platforms to respond to political events, and to advocate measures including “cancellation insurance” for members whose extreme political views might impede their professional lives.

    Harry Shukman, a researcher at UK anti-fascist non-profit Hope Not Hate, who last month published an exposé on the OGC-affiliated Basketweavers organization in the UK, told the Guardian: “Groups such as the OGC are a new breed of extremist organisation which aims first to build an offline social network before taking over society.”

    He added, “They seek to lower the bar to participating in the far right, and by doing so have proved attractive to a cohort of mostly male members, some of whom have never before undertaken any form of activism.”

    Heidi Beirich, co-founder and chief strategy officer of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, said the OGC “appears to be another major new network of racists, too many of which are springing up in the era of Trump”.

    She said the group was “pushing violent ideologies, including race hate and antisemitism and has links to prominent figures on the far right”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/05/far-right-mens-clubs-old-glory


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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,354
    edited July 5
    Forget about things going back to “normal.” It’s too late and only going to get worse. I didn’t think the far right or right as it is could set the bar any lower but I guess I was wrong. But do worry about old Hal’s posts on a rock band’s forum.


    Revealed: the far-right, antisemitic men’s club network spreading across US

    Old Glory Club has at least 26 chapters with participants including military personnel, lawyers and civil servants

    A nationwide US network of dozens of far-right, men-only fraternal clubs has what members describe as “literally hundreds” of participants who include past and currently serving military personnel, lawyers, civil servants, and prominent antisemitic influencers, a Guardian investigation can reveal.

    The Old Glory Club (OGC) – which has at least 26 chapters in 20 US states and until now has drawn little attention – exemplifies the alarming rise of organized racist political groups in the past few years but especially during the rise of Donald Trump and his return to the White House.

    The OGC network has held conferences, meetups and other events. Key members like podcaster Pete Quinones use their platforms to push far-right ideas about Jewish people and immigrants. Other members have used their platforms to respond to political events, and to advocate measures including “cancellation insurance” for members whose extreme political views might impede their professional lives.

    Harry Shukman, a researcher at UK anti-fascist non-profit Hope Not Hate, who last month published an exposé on the OGC-affiliated Basketweavers organization in the UK, told the Guardian: “Groups such as the OGC are a new breed of extremist organisation which aims first to build an offline social network before taking over society.”

    He added, “They seek to lower the bar to participating in the far right, and by doing so have proved attractive to a cohort of mostly male members, some of whom have never before undertaken any form of activism.”

    Heidi Beirich, co-founder and chief strategy officer of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, said the OGC “appears to be another major new network of racists, too many of which are springing up in the era of Trump”.

    She said the group was “pushing violent ideologies, including race hate and antisemitism and has links to prominent figures on the far right”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/05/far-right-mens-clubs-old-glory

    Just more angry scared "christian" white men afraid of being replaced. 


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,783
    Forget about things going back to “normal.” It’s too late and only going to get worse. I didn’t think the far right or right as it is could set the bar any lower but I guess I was wrong. But do worry about old Hal’s posts on a rock band’s forum.


    Revealed: the far-right, antisemitic men’s club network spreading across US

    Old Glory Club has at least 26 chapters with participants including military personnel, lawyers and civil servants

    A nationwide US network of dozens of far-right, men-only fraternal clubs has what members describe as “literally hundreds” of participants who include past and currently serving military personnel, lawyers, civil servants, and prominent antisemitic influencers, a Guardian investigation can reveal.

    The Old Glory Club (OGC) – which has at least 26 chapters in 20 US states and until now has drawn little attention – exemplifies the alarming rise of organized racist political groups in the past few years but especially during the rise of Donald Trump and his return to the White House.

    The OGC network has held conferences, meetups and other events. Key members like podcaster Pete Quinones use their platforms to push far-right ideas about Jewish people and immigrants. Other members have used their platforms to respond to political events, and to advocate measures including “cancellation insurance” for members whose extreme political views might impede their professional lives.

    Harry Shukman, a researcher at UK anti-fascist non-profit Hope Not Hate, who last month published an exposé on the OGC-affiliated Basketweavers organization in the UK, told the Guardian: “Groups such as the OGC are a new breed of extremist organisation which aims first to build an offline social network before taking over society.”

    He added, “They seek to lower the bar to participating in the far right, and by doing so have proved attractive to a cohort of mostly male members, some of whom have never before undertaken any form of activism.”

    Heidi Beirich, co-founder and chief strategy officer of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, said the OGC “appears to be another major new network of racists, too many of which are springing up in the era of Trump”.

    She said the group was “pushing violent ideologies, including race hate and antisemitism and has links to prominent figures on the far right”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/05/far-right-mens-clubs-old-glory

    Just more angry scared "christian" white men afraid of being replaced. 


    Pretty much and we know there’s no shortage of rubes.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,096
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,597
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,890
    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,890
    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.
    quoting to add that most people do not come up with these views on their own. they are susceptible to the influence of people in the right wing media sphere. they hear the message, internalize it, and then a few of them act upon it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,597
    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.

    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.
    quoting to add that most people do not come up with these views on their own. they are susceptible to the influence of people in the right wing media sphere. they hear the message, internalize it, and then a few of them act upon it.

    Good points all.  
    All of this points to extremist brainwashed cult behavior.  And when a country is run by people who instigate and perpetuate that kind of thinking, you know things have reached a very dangerous high point of extremism.  Thankfully, I think eventually the tides will turn.  There are example of that all throughout history.  I think (certainly hope!) we are at the nadir of our depravity as a nation, and hope to be around long enough to at least see things start to move back to a better place. 
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    -Roberto Benigni











  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,700
    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.
    quoting to add that most people do not come up with these views on their own. they are susceptible to the influence of people in the right wing media sphere. they hear the message, internalize it, and then a few of them act upon it.
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.

    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.
    quoting to add that most people do not come up with these views on their own. they are susceptible to the influence of people in the right wing media sphere. they hear the message, internalize it, and then a few of them act upon it.

    Good points all.  
    All of this points to extremist brainwashed cult behavior.  And when a country is run by people who instigate and perpetuate that kind of thinking, you know things have reached a very dangerous high point of extremism.  
    It's called stochastic terrorism. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,783
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.

    brianlux said:
    Among the most damning pieces of evidence in the case was a 15-minute video published on YouTube after the slaying of Michael Mohn, 68, who had long worked for the US army corps of engineers. In it, Justin Mohn, his son, spouted rightwing conspiracy theories, lobbied for militias to torture and execute his father’s fellow federal government colleagues, and denounced immigration, LGBTQ+ people, the Black Lives Matter movement and antifascist activists.

    Talk about extreme.  Putting this under spoiler.  It's not for the faint of heart:  




    if i were the family i would sue every single right wing media outlet that filled the son's head with the narrative that his inability to find a job is the fault of government workers.

    anti woke, anti blm, anti government, sounds like some of the people that pop in here on occasion and get themselves permabanned. just completely brainwashed.
    quoting to add that most people do not come up with these views on their own. they are susceptible to the influence of people in the right wing media sphere. they hear the message, internalize it, and then a few of them act upon it.

    Good points all.  
    All of this points to extremist brainwashed cult behavior.  And when a country is run by people who instigate and perpetuate that kind of thinking, you know things have reached a very dangerous high point of extremism.  Thankfully, I think eventually the tides will turn.  There are example of that all throughout history.  I think (certainly hope!) we are at the nadir of our depravity as a nation, and hope to be around long enough to at least see things start to move back to a better place. 
    We’re not even close to the nadir. Far from it.
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    Bronx girl’? AOC's Yorktown High School yearbook photo and nickname spark debate

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez faces renewed criticism over her Bronx identity following a high school photo's resurfacing.

    A resurfaced high school yearbook photo and a renewed push by a Republican legislator have once again brought into focus the controversy of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being a “Bronx girl.”

    A resurfaced yearbook photo and a Republican lawmakers comments reignite scrutiny of Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezs Bronx identityXMatt Slater
    A resurfaced yearbook photo and a Republican lawmaker's comments reignite scrutiny of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Bronx identity.(X/Matt Slater)

    The image, shared by New York State Assemblyman Matt Slater, shows a young Ocasio-Cortez as a freshman at Yorktown High School in Westchester County.

    “I’m a Bronx girl. You should know that we can eat Queens boys for breakfast. Respectfully,” she posted on X, after she clashed with President Donald Trump on social media over military action in Iran.

    ALSO READ| Donald Trump signs executive order lifting US sanctions on Syria: White House

    @AOC if you’re a BX girl, then why are you in my Yorktown yearbook? Give it up already,” Slater replied, suggesting that her “tough girl” Bronx image doesn’t align with her time in the suburbs.

    Since her 2018 win over a long-time Democratic incumbent, her personal tale has been an easy target for her opponents.


    ….


    Not only is her claim to voters dishonest, the language she uses to put down men would be disgusting if they used it on her. And an elected rep has the need to get a laugh at the expense of others is so anti woke. Good to know she is such a classy citizen, even if she is as extremist as they come.

    If cuomo did that, he’d be executed.



    We’re hoping the right can “give up already” on their weird fixation with AOC. Big high school yearbook scandal! 

    Geez u sound just like dt complaining about places like this!

    Do you recognize the double extremism?  Not only  the left on here can add hundreds of far worse posts about the right, ONE centrist posts one soft criticism of someone who happens to be on the left extreme of her party, and that commenter must be big dummy to be made fun of.

    Maga left.
    Criticism of her high school yearbook comment. Maybe try and criticize current policy. What happened to the right saying her policies will increase the deficit? Oops

    Commenters not on the extreme left sure have a lot of rules to follow here according to that logic.

    She is so extreme she’s allowed to make jokes at the expense of men which would never be allowed by her woke culture if it were against women or folks of color. That’s extremism and 100% relevant on this topic.
    That’s not extremism, it how communication works because context, nuance, and history applies. Are you still befuddled and mad as to why it’s not acceptable for you to use the n word, but it’s acceptable when black people do? 

    She made a joke at the expense of men, which would not be tolerated if it went the other way. That’s extreme dishonesty from her and what she claims to represent.


    your response ignores that by bringing up some non relevant example of n word, and you make it personal like I have anything to do with your n word anecdote pertaining to my comments. That’s dishonest as well, personally tying me to your example.


    the response to dt from the left is rampant dishonesty. They’ve been crucifying me over in the Mideast topic about the concept of negotiation , for which I had a full explanation two days ago that was completely ignored. Doesn’t stop them from continuing personal attacks after my explanation.
    Except it’s not at the expense of men when you consider history and context. That’s why I brought up the n word; because its usage is considered acceptable based on context and who’s using it. You’re too black and white. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,597
    We’re not even close to the nadir. Far from it.
    I hope that's not the case.  We'll just have to see.  And, of course, be better than that.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,783
    brianlux said:
    We’re not even close to the nadir. Far from it.
    I hope that's not the case.  We'll just have to see.  And, of course, be better than that.

    Only 1,286 days to go, probably more.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,597
    brianlux said:
    We’re not even close to the nadir. Far from it.
    I hope that's not the case.  We'll just have to see.  And, of course, be better than that.

    Only 1,286 days to go, probably more.

    Seems like a veritable eternity! 
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